Wondering if he signs one or 2 guys to long term FA deals?
- BetweenTheDots

HE BETTER! He's gotta know he cannot build a playoff team, never mind a contender, without some mature players (seasoned pros) on 3rd contracts. Besides, ELCs and bridge contracts won't get to the cap minimum.
So maybe not for next season, but the offseason after the 23/24 he better be signing or acquiring some hungry impact players.
I want the team he assembles to make the postseason appearance in the 24/25 season.

Watching them last night he really is going to be a nice to have. I've seen a few Rangers game this year and always felt they are a bit choppy, Kane is going to make one of those lines flow, if i was Gallant Id try him out on that kids line, kids are going to the right spots but whoever is trying to deliver them the puck, rarely can.
- BetweenTheDots

Do you think Kane picked the Rangers to play on the kid line?

We like to focus here on high draft picks who don't succeed, and allege that the "cause" is a rush to the show (rather than just not being good enough).

How, then, do we explain Cale Makar? Drafted in 2017, he played two years in college, then jumped right into the NHL Playoffs at age 20. He has been great ever since. Never played in the AHL or any other pro league against men. Jumped straight into the men's league as a boy.

He was the 4th pick in the draft; Dach was 3rd (as was Cam Barker, I believe). Makar plays defense, which is supposed to take longer to develop. Dach has developed at a slower rate than Makar. Is it caused because he was "rushed", or is it correlation? Most 1st round picks don't live up to what is hoped for them (stardom) whether they were rushed to the show or not.
- mohel

Thats the thing, all players are different but as long as a player shows they have the mental toughness to overcome setbacks and the technical ability to compete most nights in the NHL they should probs be in the NHL.

Matt Barzal was a 16. It's really a numbers game which is why it is encouraging that the Hawks have a lot of shots over the next few years.

Personally I think the Bruins but, and I hate to say it dubas did a really nice job even though he uncharacteristically for him got gritty playoff type players. Still not sure about the Leafs defense, especially if Gus is suited up.
- paulr

IMHO, the Leafs don’t have enough quality on the backend, and they lack a good goalie as well, but we’ll see.

Do you think Kane picked the Rangers to play on the kid line?
- LAHawk

No, because he was forced to pick a team

IMHO, the Leafs don’t have enough quality on the backend, and they lack a good goalie as well, but we’ll see.
- Angotti

Well i do see them beating the Bolts. Bolts have a lot of miles on them. Sharp was saying playing in all those playoff games definitely shortened my career. They've been to the finals 3 years in a row? No off season other than the covid off season. I've noticed a trend as well Blackhawks, Kings, Penguins either didn't make the playoffs the 4th year or were 1st round exits after 3 years in a row of playing extended hockey after the 1st round.

No, because he was forced to pick a team
- BetweenTheDots

That is a new one, now Kane was forced to pick a team?

IMHO, the Leafs don’t have enough quality on the backend, and they lack a good goalie as well, but we’ll see.
- Angotti

Especially when considering McCabe is their third best defenseman and is not far from being the best. How sad is that defense compared to the Keith, Seabrook, Hjalmarsson, Oduya foursome? And as you say compounding the problem are very average goalies. However they do have some serious skill and depth up front.

That is a new one, now Kane was forced to pick a team?
- LAHawk

Why not, you think he did all this out of spite.

HE BETTER! He's gotta know he cannot build a playoff team, never mind a contender, without some mature players (seasoned pros) on 3rd contracts. Besides, ELCs and bridge contracts won't get to the cap minimum.
So maybe not for next season, but the offseason after the 23/24 he better be signing or acquiring some hungry impact players.
I want the team he assembles to make the postseason appearance in the 24/25 season.
- GreenJeans

I don't see anybody signing here long term, unless it's a huge overpay. They have to be nimble at this stage, develop their own talent, and pay them accordingly when the time comes. Once you have an emerging core, then build around it, filling the roles that are still needed.

In the meantime, stick with the program of signing vets to short term deals, ones who are still hungry and playing to get traded to a contender at the next deadline. We always look at GM's signing players for a year and hoping to flip them, but I have no doubt that players themselves sign these deals hoping to be flipped to a contender at the deadline. Contenders often don't have the money to sign everyone they want in July, and so much changes between then and the next deadline.

That is a new one, now Kane was forced to pick a team?
- LAHawk

I'm believing more and more Kane stuck it to KD and Toews is no sicker than he was at the start of the season all orchestrated by Brisson.

Why not, you think he did all this out of spite.
- BetweenTheDots

I am confused.

Kane had the NMC, the Hawks said whatever you want we will do our best to fulfill your wishes, he picks the Rangers at basically the last minute, The Rangers go thru hoops to help Kane fulfill his wishes, and the Hawks forced him out?

Do you think if he wanted to stay in Chicago, he would not be offered a contract next year? You are the one saying Kane is coming back, so why was Kane forced to select the Rangers?

Personally I think the Bruins but, and I hate to say it dubas did a really nice job even though he uncharacteristically for him got gritty playoff type players. Still not sure about the Leafs defense, especially if Gus is suited up.
- paulr

Overhauling up to 1/3 of the roster doesn't usually lead to short term success in the playoffs. Have to think Dubas has put pieces in place to make them better and tougher to play against. But goaltending - they aren't there with the better teams. Same problem might sink Carolina too.

Why not, you think he did all this out of spite.
- BetweenTheDots

Yes. Kinda obvious isn't it.

I'm believing more and more Kane stuck it to KD and Toews is no sicker than he was at the start of the season all orchestrated by Brisson.
- rpeters01

Why? the hawks paid his clients stupid high contracts that made him alot of money.

I'm believing more and more Kane stuck it to KD and Toews is no sicker than he was at the start of the season all orchestrated by Brisson.
- rpeters01

What facts and proof makes you believe that? I hope the proof is real and not something you picked up with a tin foil hat.

I don't see anybody signing here long term, unless it's a huge overpay. They have to be nimble at this stage, develop their own talent, and pay them accordingly when the time comes. Once you have an emerging core, then build around it, filling the roles that are still needed.

In the meantime, stick with the program of signing vets to short term deals, ones who are still hungry and playing to get traded to a contender at the next deadline. We always look at GM's signing players for a year and hoping to flip them, but I have no doubt that players themselves sign these deals hoping to be flipped to a contender at the deadline. Contenders often don't have the money to sign everyone they want in July, and so much changes between then and the next deadline.
- 333inthe3rd

Especially if they get Bedard, you need vets like T. Johnson (and I hope Domi is back) to teach him the NHL, not just on the ice, but off of it.

As it is he probably will be boarding with a vet for at least the first year, like Dach with Seabrook. He will only be 18 yo next year.

Why? the hawks paid his clients stupid high contracts that made him alot of money.
- SaskHawkFan

Because KD blew it up with them still under contract.

What facts and proof makes you believe that? I hope the proof is real and not something you picked up with a tin foil hat.
- paulr

Simply how Kane manipulated it. Who cares about facts it's my opinion.

I am confused.

Kane had the NMC, the Hawks said whatever you want we will do our best to fulfill your wishes, he picks the Rangers at basically the last minute, The Rangers go thru hoops to help Kane fulfill his wishes, and the Hawks forced him out?

Do you think if he wanted to stay in Chicago, he would not be offered a contract next year? You are the one saying Kane is coming back, so why was Kane forced to select the Rangers?
- LAHawk

No I'm saying i would sign him to a one year contract and trade him again, but like you said why would he do that? I said money and you said he'll take less to play for a winner, and you're probably right.

I don't know, when i don't want to go somewhere or do something I've been guilty of dragging my feet. It's not hard for me to believe he didn't want to leave Chicago and KD was like common you need to go you aren't part of the future of the club but if you're willing to sign a one year deal with nmc or ntc next year, I'll pay you more than any other team out there, have your agent call me in the summer

Simply how Kane manipulated it. Who cares about facts it's my opinion.
- rpeters01

Tin foil hat time.

I don't see anybody signing here long term, unless it's a huge overpay. They have to be nimble at this stage, develop their own talent, and pay them accordingly when the time comes. Once you have an emerging core, then build around it, filling the roles that are still needed.

In the meantime, stick with the program of signing vets to short term deals, ones who are still hungry and playing to get traded to a contender at the next deadline. We always look at GM's signing players for a year and hoping to flip them, but I have no doubt that players themselves sign these deals hoping to be flipped to a contender at the deadline. Contenders often don't have the money to sign everyone they want in July, and so much changes between then and the next deadline.
- 333inthe3rd

The Hawks should keep taking on bad/expiring contracts from teams that need to clear cap space and continue to add draft picks in doing so. So happy they tore this completely down. Anything of value left, move and reset it all completely.

No I'm saying i would sign him to a one year contract and trade him again, but like you said why would he do that? I said money and you said he'll take less to play for a winner, and you're probably right.

I don't know, when i don't want to go somewhere or do something I've been guilty of dragging my feet. It's not hard for me to believe he didn't want to leave Chicago and KD was like common you need to go you aren't part of the future of the club but if you're willing to sign a one year deal with nmc or ntc next year, I'll pay you more than any other team out there, have your agent call me in the summer
- BetweenTheDots

IMO he was as good as gone the day ADB and Dach were traded (in KD's mind), I will give you that.

Tin foil hat time.
- paulr

Circumstantial evidence.

Wow, didn't realize, Domi and Athanaseu have the same agent.