Said he didn’t understand the extent of unnecessary, entitled people around the dressing room when he took the job.
Said he didn’t know about the dysfunction in the training staff as well as lawsuits.
Said he believes the chain of command is NOW Scott, Fletcher, than him. Implying their were other voices in between.
- Shrike

Somebody better tell Torts what happened to Hexy when he cut the alumni out of the loop

ANyone listening to the torts interview? I heard he is just going unfiltered.

ANyone listening to the torts interview? I heard he is just going unfiltered.
- J35Bacher

Unfiltered is a bit strong. Thinly veiled may not be strong enough

Well based on what Fletcher stated the other day, you are getting what you have wished for, the Flyers drafting and developing. I'm fine with it as long as Fletcher also frees up cap space, so if there is a deal to be made the Flyers can at least be legitimately in on it.
- jd250

That's a fair assessment to make. That while drafting and developing, start creating some cap space. Identify who won't be here for the next "core window" and remove them when the opportunity arises.

I kind of said this with the canucks but it might apply to the flyers too. I don't know how long it's been these players around, but it's kind of like the leafs when they had Kessel/JVR/Bozak. They weren't terrible players individually but the collective of that team they just didn't work. For whatever reasons it didn't so they had to fix it. Flyers could be that. TK/Sanheim/Provo all could be decent players but they don't work altogether so time to move on.

Unfiltered is a bit strong. Thinly veiled may not be strong enough
- Shrike

OK. I didn't hear so wanted to know

Greetings Flyers Buzzards! Been out all day. Did Fletch make any deals today?

OK. I didn't hear so wanted to know
- J35Bacher

But everybody on the show believed Torts to be Talking about Clarke’s influence without saying it

ANyone listening to the torts interview? I heard he is just going unfiltered.
- J35Bacher

We need this posted, is he trying to get out of town, or is this a Fletcher or me thing?

That's a fair assessment to make. That while drafting and developing, start creating some cap space. Identify who won't be here for the next "core window" and remove them when the opportunity arises.

I kind of said this with the canucks but it might apply to the flyers too. I don't know how long it's been these players around, but it's kind of like the leafs when they had Kessel/JVR/Bozak. They weren't terrible players individually but the collective of that team they just didn't work. For whatever reasons it didn't so they had to fix it. Flyers could be that. TK/Sanheim/Provo all could be decent players but they don't work altogether so time to move on.
- Aaron_85

The Flyers are the pre-Shanny Leafs. So many parallels.

Said he didn’t understand the extent of unnecessary, entitled people around the dressing room when he took the job.
Said he didn’t know about the dysfunction in the training staff as well as lawsuits.
Said he believes the chain of command is NOW Scott, Fletcher, than him. Implying their were other voices in between.
- Shrike

He knew imo. He did his homework.

He saw 16 million and not one other team showing any interest. He is just buying himself more time by saynig it.

We need this posted, is he trying to get out of town, or is this a Fletcher or me thing?
- ClaudeFather

yes details details and more details

The Flyers are the pre-Shanny Leafs. So many parallels.
- Tomahawk

Similar to the conversations here too


It only makes me feel better that fans of other teams feel/felt the same as fans of the leafs. What's sad about it is the teams take FOREVER to see how much the fans want something/just want to see real competition and to stop being sold a false idea of competitive.

Greetings Flyers Buzzards! Been out all day. Did Fletch make any deals today?
- Letterkenney

if you have to ask this then you know the answer

Similar to the conversations here too


It only makes me feel better that fans of other teams feel/felt the same as fans of the leafs. What's sad about it is the teams take FOREVER to see how much the fans want something/just want to see real competition and to stop being sold a false idea of competitive.
- Aaron_85

Yeah, the Flyers need to realize that the hole is just getting deeper and deeper as each season passes.

They need a Shanny figure to kick all the meddlers/grifters out of the room and put up a firewall between corporate and hockey ops. Then just do the hard work of building a team back up, the right way, from the ground up, no shortcuts. And for the love of god, put the Bullies glory days to bed and fully embrace 21st century hockey and team management.

My vote would be Chris Pronger in the Shanny role. Everybody is intimidated by him and his rep around here is unimpeachable.

Go to the 97.5 fanatic website, click on the afternoon show and there is a link for the entire 14 minute and change interview with Torts.

Idk why but I have a feeling philly makes a trade soon. Like by 7 pm

Go to the 97.5 fanatic website, click on the afternoon show and there is a link for the entire 14 minute and change interview with Torts.
- Shrike

https://975thefanatic.com/podcasts/afternoon-show/

Looking like the Flyers are sitting this trade deadline out. Maybe Fletcher has overplayed his hand a bit with the little he has, but then again I really don't blame him. Its not Fletcher's job to help other teams get better so he should demand as much as he can for what little he has. JVR, Braun and Brown just don't add much to another team at this point, just like they add little to the Flyers. They are all off the books after this season, so if Fletcher does not trade them does it really matter? I'm not going to miss the 4th or 6th round pick anyway. Heard LA is interested in Provey but Fletcher asked for Byfield in return, if true, again good for Fletcher. Screw LA, if they want Provey they are going to have to pay a steep price. That's the way it should be.
- jd250

I would rather have something than nothing, absolutely. There's no moral victory to walking away empty handed.

Yeah, the Flyers need to realize that the hole is just getting deeper and deeper as each season passes.

They need a Shanny figure to kick all the meddlers/grifters out of the room and put up a firewall between corporate and hockey ops. Then just do the hard work of building a team back up, the right way, from the ground up, no shortcuts. And for the love of god, put the Bullies glory days to bed and fully embrace 21st century hockey and team management.

My vote would be Chris Pronger in the Shanny role. Everybody is intimidated by him and his rep around here is unimpeachable.
- Tomahawk

I would love to see Pronger here but why would he come and why would he be hired if those making the hiring decisions stand to lose the most.

Said he didn’t understand the extent of unnecessary, entitled people around the dressing room when he took the job.
Said he didn’t know about the dysfunction in the training staff as well as lawsuits.
Said he believes the chain of command is NOW Scott, Fletcher, than him. Implying their were other voices in between.
- Shrike

I'm curious to read this... can you provide a link, please?

I don't get why the Penguins hired Hextall in the first place. When they hired him, I figured they were going to start rebuilding not keep hanging on for one last chance. Whether it was good or not he had a track record for clearing space and gathering picks. There is no record on him building up a contending team.

If you want a break from the Flyers misery, go read the comments on the Penguins blog......
- rayc16

There was no track record of him clearing space and gathering picks before the Flyers hired him.

That is true, but the end of his tenure, what was the biggest complaint (besides the office environment)?

What's the biggest issue with him in Pittsburgh over the years?

There's a reason why same teams deal with each other. The Flyers don't just need a new GM, they need a respected around the league GM.

If the Flyers wanted to dump a salary of 1yr/5.8m while retaining 50%...what do you think it would cost them? Do you really think it would only cost them a 7th? I wouldn't be surprised if it would cost them a 1st or 2nd.
- Glak18

I don't really buy the respect angle. I want new blood. Not a respected retread for a GM. Same with the coach.

Well based on what Fletcher stated the other day, you are getting what you have wished for, the Flyers drafting and developing. I'm fine with it as long as Fletcher also frees up cap space, so if there is a deal to be made the Flyers can at least be legitimately in on it.
- jd250

My wish was for Fletcher to not be doing anything.

I'm curious to read this... can you provide a link, please?
- Bob Habib

Look back a couple posts. Link and location listed previously

I would love to see Pronger here but why would he come and why would he be hired if those making the hiring decisions stand to lose the most.
- Sinisalo4vr

You'd hope that Spectacor would eventually reach the limit of their patience (like MLSE did) and just do a hard self-assessment that paves the way for a house cleaning.

I'm not holding my breath tho.

Sounds like Torts and Chuck will be trusted to oversee this latest "rebuild". Torts said that they met w/ Scott last Sunday and they're all on the same page now. Oh boy.