You're incorrect. The main gripe at the press conference when they fired Hexy was that it was taking too long. Shutting out the alumni was part of it but it was secondary.
- MJL

No actually I’m not incorrect.

Please tell me you don’t believe a word fo says? Shutting out alumni yes was secondary but not secondary to “taking too long” it was secondary to him shutting out Scott/homer. Hexy refused to do as they say plain and simple. They wanted hak fired and hart brought up the and hexy told them to piss off that it wasn’t go time.

The little piss pots gots mad and fired him

Hexy was right. Scott/homer were wrong.

Again please tell me you don’t actually believe what they were selling when they fired hexy. You know… the whole “bias for action” bs. That they never did

Good news. JVR is tops of TSN trade board.

No actually I’m not incorrect.

Please tell me you don’t believe a word fo says? Shutting out alumni yes was secondary but not secondary to “taking too long” it was secondary to him shutting out Scott/homer. Hexy refused to do as they say plain and simple. They wanted hak fired and hart brought up the and hexy told them to piss off that it wasn’t go time.

The little piss pots gots mad and fired him

Hexy was right. Scott/homer were wrong.

Again please tell me you don’t actually believe what they were selling when they fired hexy. You know… the whole “bias for action” bs. That they never did
- SMS4016

So in other words, they wanted Hexy to speed up the process because they thought it was taking too long.

So less than 9 hours until the TDL and still nothing. Hope and expectations, again, will likely not be met. Most of us doubt that Fletcher will pull anything productive or exciting off today. This has the feeling of when Wayne Simmonds was traded. In all likelihood, it’s reasonable to expect JVR, Braun and maybe Brown gone at the last minute for a handful of 4th-7th round picks with a “take it or leave it” approach from the sharks circling the unimaginative and feckless Flyers GM. Honestly, does anyone actually expect anything different?

I’m willing to bet the excuse the Flyers will use is that making trades would require too many players from the phantoms to be called up and ruin their team chemistry during a playoff run

Good news. JVR is tops of TSN trade board.
- Aaron_85

Bad news …all the trades are done!!….I’m pretty sure he gets moved today. But with this front office always expect dumb.

I’m willing to bet the excuse the Flyers will use is that making trades would require too many players from the phantoms to be called up and ruin their team chemistry during a playoff run
- Shrike

I thought that as well….just more incompetence at the top.

So less than 9 hours until the TDL and still nothing. Hope and expectations, again, will likely not be met. Most of us doubt that Fletcher will pull anything productive or exciting off today. This has the feeling of when Wayne Simmonds was traded. In all likelihood, it’s reasonable to expect JVR, Braun and maybe Brown gone at the last minute for a handful of 4th-7th round picks with a “take it or leave it” approach from the sharks circling the unimaginative and feckless Flyers GM. Honestly, does anyone actually expect anything different?
- mikeyo27

Why make any changes to your lineup when it’s clear you have a very good team. You’ve proven to be amongst the best….if it wasn’t for superstar winger Cam Atkinson, perennial Norris candidate Ryan Ellis and Macdavid clone Sean Couturier we’d be in the hunt….no work to be done, just need time to heel injuries. See ya all next year.

Why make any changes to your lineup when it’s clear you have a very good team. You’ve proven to be amongst the best….if it wasn’t for superstar winger Cam Atkinson, perennial Norris candidate Ryan Ellis and Macdavid clone Sean Couturier we’d be in the hunt….no work to be done, just need time to heel injuries. See ya all next year.
- landros 2

Ahhhh. You make a good point. I will feel shame now for not seeing it before. 😔

No actually I’m not incorrect.

Please tell me you don’t believe a word fo says? Shutting out alumni yes was secondary but not secondary to “taking too long” it was secondary to him shutting out Scott/homer. Hexy refused to do as they say plain and simple. They wanted hak fired and hart brought up the and hexy told them to piss off that it wasn’t go time.

The little piss pots gots mad and fired him

Hexy was right. Scott/homer were wrong.

Again please tell me you don’t actually believe what they were selling when they fired hexy. You know… the whole “bias for action” bs. That they never did
- SMS4016

Its really simple. Hexy got fired because he alienated people in the organization including his most ardent supporter, Paul Holmgren. And when Scott and others got impatient with what was happening with the team, Hextall had no one in Scott's ear to defend him, and thus he was fired. That's how it works in general, if people like and support you, they put up with bad results, otherwise they use those bad results as a reason to fire you!

I thought that as well….just more incompetence at the top.
- landros 2

Let's wait until later today before we call Fletcher incompetent. He did get a good return for Giroux while Giroux tied his hands and feet, so maybe he can come through today. From what I am reading this morning, Vegas wants JVR and has a 3rd round pick this year and a 2nd round pick next year. If I am Fletcher, I ask them for one of those picks in return for JVR and I cover half the remaining salary. If this is what happens given the way JVR has played, Fletcher would deserve some credit.

No actually I’m not incorrect.

Please tell me you don’t believe a word fo says? Shutting out alumni yes was secondary but not secondary to “taking too long” it was secondary to him shutting out Scott/homer. Hexy refused to do as they say plain and simple. They wanted hak fired and hart brought up the and hexy told them to piss off that it wasn’t go time.

The little piss pots gots mad and fired him

Hexy was right. Scott/homer were wrong.

Again please tell me you don’t actually believe what they were selling when they fired hexy. You know… the whole “bias for action” bs. That they never did
- SMS4016

If the team was at a higher level and progressing faster, he wouldn't have been fired. The shutting out the alumni and others was just an excuse. I agree completely that Hextall was correct and Scott and Holmgren were wrong.

Good news. JVR is tops of TSN trade board.
- Aaron_85

Bad news, contending teams have run out of picks and cap space since they have been busy obtaining players this past few weeks!

So less than 9 hours until the TDL and still nothing. Hope and expectations, again, will likely not be met. Most of us doubt that Fletcher will pull anything productive or exciting off today. This has the feeling of when Wayne Simmonds was traded. In all likelihood, it’s reasonable to expect JVR, Braun and maybe Brown gone at the last minute for a handful of 4th-7th round picks with a “take it or leave it” approach from the sharks circling the unimaginative and feckless Flyers GM. Honestly, does anyone actually expect anything different?
- mikeyo27

Why was anything expected different from the get -go?

Its really simple. Hexy got fired because he alienated people in the organization including his most ardent supporter, Paul Holmgren. And when Scott and others got impatient with what was happening with the team, Hextall had no one in Scott's ear to defend him, and thus he was fired. That's how it works in general, if people like and support you, they put up with bad results, otherwise they use those bad results as a reason to fire you!
- jd250

Hextall got fired because he did a poor job. No conspiracy theory. His plan failed. They were not getting better due to some below average drafting and not well thought out FA signings. True he alienated some guys that up to even today you probably don’t want to do but had the Flyers shown they were getting better and his over all job performance was better he would not have been fired. You know what’s good for job security in professional sports ? Winning.

Its really simple. Hexy got fired because he alienated people in the organization including his most ardent supporter, Paul Holmgren. And when Scott and others got impatient with what was happening with the team, Hextall had no one in Scott's ear to defend him, and thus he was fired. That's how it works in general, if people like and support you, they put up with bad results, otherwise they use those bad results as a reason to fire you!
- jd250

Hextall was not fired for alienating people. He was fired because the rebuild was taking too long in their eyes. You think in the real world how it works is people will put up with bad results if they like you? Sometimes, but in general, no that is not how it works. What are you talking about?

Let's wait until later today before we call Fletcher incompetent. He did get a good return for Giroux while Giroux tied his hands and feet, so maybe he can come through today. From what I am reading this morning, Vegas wants JVR and has a 3rd round pick this year and a 2nd round pick next year. If I am Fletcher, I ask them for one of those picks in return for JVR and I cover half the remaining salary. If this is what happens given the way JVR has played, Fletcher would deserve some credit.
- jd250

You really need today to tell you Chuck Fletcher is incompetent?

Let's wait until later today before we call Fletcher incompetent. He did get a good return for Giroux while Giroux tied his hands and feet, so maybe he can come through today. From what I am reading this morning, Vegas wants JVR and has a 3rd round pick this year and a 2nd round pick next year. If I am Fletcher, I ask them for one of those picks in return for JVR and I cover half the remaining salary. If this is what happens given the way JVR has played, Fletcher would deserve some credit.
- jd250

We don't have to wait until later today to call Fletcher incompetent. We already know that he is. We have plenty of information to determine that.

If the team was at a higher level and progressing faster, he wouldn't have been fired. The shutting out the alumni and others was just an excuse. I agree completely that Hextall was correct and Scott and Holmgren were wrong.
- MJL

So Hextall didn't believe it was go-time but he signs JVR to a 5 year $35M contract in 2018?? See I would buy that Hexy was not ready if he didn't make this FA signing. The draft before he traded Schenn for picks which is consistent with feeling the team is not ready, and all the uncertainty around Patrick just added to the problem. If Hextall truly felt the team was not ready, he should have traded Giroux and Voracek to cement the team was rebuilding and would not be ready in time to take advantage of their prime years.

We don't have to wait until later today to call Fletcher incompetent. We already know that he is. We have plenty of information to determine that.
- MJL

very true, the context of my comments was this specific trade deadline.

So Hextall didn't believe it was go-time but he signs JVR to a 5 year $35M contract in 2018?? See I would buy that Hexy was not ready if he didn't make this FA signing. The draft before he traded Schenn for picks which is consistent with feeling the team is not being ready, and all the uncertainty around Patrick just added to the problem. If Hextall truly felt the team was not ready, he should have traded Giroux and Voracek to cement the team was rebuilding and would not be ready in time to take advantage of their prime years.
- jd250

Hextall took over in 2014. Signing JVR happened 4 years later. This organization would've never permitted a full tank.

Okay, let's explore it. What is your statement of " Hexy also had no clue about valuable qualities of bottom six forwards" based on?
- MJL

when you roll out rj umberger on his last legs, dale weise, jordan weal, lehtera, vandevelde just off the top of my head in your bottom 6 that indicates to me he didn't do a good job. Probably several others as well

So Hextall didn't believe it was go-time but he signs JVR to a 5 year $35M contract in 2018?? See I would buy that Hexy was not ready if he didn't make this FA signing. The draft before he traded Schenn for picks which is consistent with feeling the team is not ready, and all the uncertainty around Patrick just added to the problem. If Hextall truly felt the team was not ready, he should have traded Giroux and Voracek to cement the team was rebuilding and would not be ready in time to take advantage of their prime years.
- jd250

Ronald was forced into that signing according to CLiff. The defending of an average andy at best is very entertaining. Definitely related to him in some way. Always gets up on his horse when the saint is criticized.

Hextall took over in 2014. Signing JVR happened 4 years later. This organization would've never permitted a full tank.
- MJL

is that a fact or opinion? Ronald was in complete control. He had carte blanch to do what he saw fit. Accept it CLiff

Hextall was not fired for alienating people. He was fired because the rebuild was taking too long in their eyes. You think in the real world how it works is people will put up with bad results if they like you? Sometimes, but in general, no that is not how it works. What are you talking about?
- MJL

This certainly seems to be the case for Chuck Fletcher. He's run this team into the ground, yet Dave Scott likes the way he's built this organization. He's never seen the front office working this well together. Must be a joy to work with.