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Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 3 @ 3:35 PM ET
JVR's a power play specialist and the refs swallow whistles in the POs. And how many contending teams' PP units aren't already set by now?

The market for him was gonna be limited.

Plugs like Brown and Mac... rightly or wrongly, GMs believe they serve a purpose in PO attrition.

- Tomahawk


Then JvR needs to be scratched for the rest of the year. Mr. Only PP is not helping.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 3 @ 3:35 PM ET
Guarantee Claude will facetime JVR tonight to chirp his ass for not getting traded:

ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 3 @ 3:35 PM ET
Maybe so, but I'm sure that at least 2 weeks ago before all the PO teams were finalizing their rosters, if it were known that it would only cost a 3 or 4 and some salary retained, he would have been gone.
- RustyPipes

Think about what you just wrote, everyone knew the price for JVR wasn’t much, no one was expecting it to be a first or second. Even the fans in this group thought it was a low mid round pick
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 3 @ 3:35 PM ET
Can't wait for the offseason when I have to hear from people about change is going to happen....


Fresh start they say.

- Glak18

"There wasn't much out there for us this summer"
WhiskeyMan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 04.27.2018

Mar 3 @ 3:36 PM ET
i am just lost for words, this team has been destroyed by three inept GM's. The team is valued at $1.25billion.

I think Elon Muck needs to step up.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 3 @ 3:36 PM ET
Guarantee Claude will facetime JVR tonight to chirp his ass for not getting traded:


- Tomahawk

Did you see Dorian’s comments about getting a Dman
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 3 @ 3:36 PM ET
please re-sign him to at least a 1 year ext. That would be awesome.

I hope JVR on his own comes up with a phantom injury and says f this franchise
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Mar 3 @ 3:36 PM ET
The music has stopped. As expected COULDNT trade Jvr. Fat kid chuck looking for that chair.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Mar 3 @ 3:37 PM ET
who will pick him up with his full salary at this point/? a trade could have retained.

Sellers they said lol:Zack MacEwen Patrick Brown Isaac Ratcliffe

- hello it's me 2050


Wouldn't the Flyers be required to retain most of that salary? I'm asking because I don't know the specifics on that once we get past the TDL.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 3 @ 3:37 PM ET
Did you see Dorian’s comments about getting a Dman
- ClaudeFather


link?
Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

Mar 3 @ 3:37 PM ET
When I hear people saying things like:

"No one wanted him" or "They have no value"

It's excuses for a crappy GM and organization. If they have no value then WTF are they in the NHL?

Patrick Brown just got a 6th!!!!!!

No one is beating down doors for Patrick Brown....and he just got a 6th!

- Glak18


For me, it's not that I think JVR literally has no value. It's that this crappy GM & organization that is stuck in the stone age overvalued him to the point that they likely balked at & turned down some mid/late round pick offers in recent days. Then dug in thinking they would eventually get an offer they felt was fair. But that never happened, and those offers that were previously viewed as unacceptable were probably no longer on the table. I agree that he should've been moved for literally anything
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 3 @ 3:37 PM ET
Maybe so, but I'm sure that at least 2 weeks ago before all the PO teams were finalizing their rosters, if it were known that it would only cost a 3 or 4 and some salary retained, he would have been gone.
- RustyPipes


JVR was never a player that would've been traded early regardless of cost of return. Teams only have so much cap and roster space. Some pretty good players were traded. GM's know who is going to be available. JVR was a fall back player that apparently there wasn't a ton of interest in, even this late. There certainly wouldn't have been more interest earlier.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Mar 3 @ 3:38 PM ET
Worst GM in pro sports, this franchise is a sick joke.

Please, for the love of god, sell the team.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 3 @ 3:38 PM ET
I’m absolutely surprised JvR wasn’t moved. I think it’s weird some of you on here taking this grand stance of “I knew it” and happy to be right. Zach Mac-F-in-Ewen was moved today for two pieces. Who could predict that?

I partly blame the organization, not for waiting but he was never used to his strengths. This isn’t to say JvR is without flaws. He’s a flawed player but not allowing him to start most of, if not all power plays as a net front lowers his value to almost nothing.

- SuperSchennBros


they only get partial blame?
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 3 @ 3:38 PM ET
link?
- Tomahawk

https://theathletic.com/4...run-senators-debut/?amp=1
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 3 @ 3:38 PM ET
Braun is not a so-so guy. I've tried to explain why there is no interest in Braun. He is done. Can't keep blaming the GM for not being able to trade a player that nobody wants.
- MJL


Prove to me nobody wants him. I think you underestimate how much teams need depth in the playoff runs and even if he's in the press box and a 7th guy it's worth a 7th round pick.
RustyPipes
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Williamsburg, VA
Joined: 03.09.2018

Mar 3 @ 3:38 PM ET
Think about what you just wrote, everyone knew the price for JVR wasn’t much, no one was expecting it to be a first or second. Even the fans in this group thought it was a low mid round pick
- ClaudeFather


I'm not so sure everyone knew that the price wasn't so great. It was just put out today that he was seeking a 3rd. The music was stopping and the chairs were going away and CF boxed himself into corner. I think something similar happened last year as well. The smarter GMs started dealing 2 weeks ago.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 3 @ 3:39 PM ET
TSN keeps mentioning Brown as a big pickup then correcting themselves...

That's Patrick Brown.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 3 @ 3:39 PM ET
https://theathletic.com/4270221/2023/03/02/jakob-chychrun-senators-debut/?amp=1
- ClaudeFather


Claude and Dorian are such giga chads
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 3 @ 3:40 PM ET
I'm not so sure everyone knew that the price wasn't so great. It was just put out today that he was seeking a 3rd. The music was stopping and the chairs were going away and CF boxed himself into corner. I think something similar happened last year as well. The smarter GMs started dealing 2 weeks ago.
- RustyPipes

And I’m sure JVr was on the top of everyone’s list 😂 get in early before it’s gone! Take a reality check please
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 3 @ 3:40 PM ET
please re-sign him to at least a 1 year ext. That would be awesome.

I hope JVR on his own comes up with a phantom injury and says f this franchise

- hello it's me 2050


actually i hope the next step is send any of the kids down to experience the playoff run for the phantoms. don't care if we are dressing 9 skaters and 5 d men.

they gained a lot of experience this year. lmissing the last 10 games of the season won;t hurt.
hello it's me 2050
Location: AR
Joined: 05.14.2021

Mar 3 @ 3:40 PM ET
What are the chances Braun retired end of year get a job with the team....
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Mar 3 @ 3:41 PM ET
I'm not so sure everyone knew that the price wasn't so great. It was just put out today that he was seeking a 3rd. The music was stopping and the chairs were going away and CF boxed himself into corner. I think something similar happened last year as well. The smarter GMs started dealing 2 weeks ago.
- RustyPipes


Agreed, he held out hope this team could compete based on his earlier comments in December. Then the coach, who he is not on the same page with, beat him to the mic and announced this team did not have the players to challenge for the playoffs and CF was left scrambling in the final week. An absolute CF by CF.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 3 @ 3:42 PM ET
JVR was never a player that would've been traded early regardless of cost of return. Teams only have so much cap and roster space. Some pretty good players were traded. GM's know who is going to be available. JVR was a fall back player that apparently there wasn't a ton of interest in, even this late. There certainly wouldn't have been more interest earlier.
- MJL


No roster spots as of last night at midnight so roster space doesn't mean anything and plenty of teams willing to take on retained salary. Hung on too long, asked for too much. We can agree to disagree though.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Mar 3 @ 3:43 PM ET
Prove to me nobody wants him. I think you underestimate how much teams need depth in the playoff runs and even if he's in the press box and a 7th guy it's worth a 7th round pick.
- Aaron_85

The proof is that he appears on the Flyers roster rather than a list of deals made at the deadline.
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