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landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 3 @ 4:36 PM ET
he has said this for well over a year now. Yet he hasnt acquired said talent.
- hello it's me 2050


He actually admitted today that he has done a poor job and responsible for the current roster….balls in your court Dave Scott.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 3 @ 4:38 PM ET
Isn't it proof enough that the trade deadline has now passed and Justin Braun remains on the Flyers roster?
- BaronVonShiznit


No because Chuck could have had too much of an asking price and wouldn't settle for less. Put him on waivers and if nobody claimed him then I'd agree.
Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

Mar 3 @ 4:39 PM ET
So, at this point, would you have taken Greenway?
- nails


No. As much as it sucks to get nothing for JVR, at least him & his $7M AAV are completely done after this season. Pretty sure Greenway still has some term left.
Big_E_88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Wilmington, DE
Joined: 01.17.2014

Mar 3 @ 4:41 PM ET
He actually admitted today that he has done a poor job and responsible for the current roster….balls in your court Dave Scott.
- landros 2


Setting the table for Monday morning's presser to announce that Briere is the new GM. Chuck will focus on just being Prez
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 3 @ 4:41 PM ET
No because Chuck could have had too much of an asking price and wouldn't settle for less. Put him on waivers and if nobody claimed him then I'd agree.
- Aaron_85


Braun is 36 and has not been a regular player for the Flyers. Do you honestly think it's reasonable to suggest that Fletcher played hard ball and didn't take an offer? That he wouldn't do right by Braun by moving him to a playoff team in the twilight of his career?
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 3 @ 4:41 PM ET
He might want out of TO. It depends on how they do in the next couple of years. He’ll be able to pick his new destination if he wants to….the question at the time will be is why the Flyers? A guy like him will want to go where he can get paid and win.
- landros 2


Maybe Fletcher is positioning himself to land Matthews AND McDavid as his one two punch down the middle?! I mean...wouldn't that be the dream?!
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 3 @ 4:41 PM ET
No because Chuck could have had too much of an asking price and wouldn't settle for less. Put him on waivers and if nobody claimed him then I'd agree.
- Aaron_85


Very much like the Ghost situation, which Bill broke down earlier. Anyone could of had him and the possibility of eating salary to work out a deal could of happened too. Instead they give up a 2nd and 7th with Ghost for nothing.

Ghost just got traded for a 3rd. Same player. People can talk about his stat line in Arizona, but Ghost as a player hasn't changed one bit.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 3 @ 4:42 PM ET
Braun is 36 and has not been a regular player for the Flyers. Do you honestly think it's reasonable to suggest that Fletcher played hard ball and didn't take an offer? That he wouldn't do right by Braun by moving him to a playoff team in the twilight of his career?
- MJL


Yes. Maybe I'm wrong but RHD always seem to have a market. Luke Schenn is 34, not been a regular and wasn't for Tampa when he won, so why not Braun?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 3 @ 4:44 PM ET
Yes. Maybe I'm wrong but RHD always seem to have a market. Luke Schenn is 34, not been a regular and wasn't for Tampa when he won, so why not Braun?
- Aaron_85


RHD who are pretty much done and at the end of their career don't usually have a market. Schenn is a much, much better player than Braun is and is still a capable player.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 3 @ 4:45 PM ET
Yes. Maybe I'm wrong but RHD always seem to have a market. Luke Schenn is 34, not been a regular and wasn't for Tampa when he won, so why not Braun?
- Aaron_85


The answer is simple...when you play for the Flyers you are worthless. Only when the player goes to another team do they become something.

Flyer fans are emulating Leaf fans by being self deprecating now. It might be jealousy.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 3 @ 4:47 PM ET
RHD who are pretty much done and at the end of their career don't usually have a market. Schenn is a much, much better player than Braun is and is still a capable player.
- MJL


Flyers might of gotten less value for Schenn 7 years ago then what Vancouver received.
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Mar 3 @ 4:47 PM ET
Maybe Fletcher is positioning himself to land Matthews AND McDavid as his one two punch down the middle?! I mean...wouldn't that be the dream?!
- Aaron_85


TO is a great franchise. I think he’d be nuts to leave….but who knows how he feels about TO being a kid from Arizona.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 3 @ 4:49 PM ET
I’m just gonna throw this out there. What do leaf’s do with Matthews? Yeah I know you “have to sign him” but IF they do what pieces move? Would have to be a lot. It looks like Toronto is all in for remainder of his contract. Could he walk after?
- SMS4016


Matthews and Marner won't go anywhere. You don't let those kinds of guys go. And they're both deeply entrenched in the local area.

The thing is... there will always be an abundance of vets who will sign in Toronto for cheap, like Jumbo, Simmer, Giordano, Spezza, etc. JT will probably resign for peanuts when his deal is over. They can just keep doing that forever to offset their higher salaries. In addition to any kids like Knies and Robertson who will be contributors on ELCs.

Nylander probably will eventually price himself out of town, tho.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 3 @ 4:50 PM ET
TO is a great franchise. I think he’d be nuts to leave….but who knows how he feels about TO being a kid from Arizona.
- landros 2


I think he was being sarcastic, the Flyers are not in any position to sign ANY big free agents until they dump A LOT of salary.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 3 @ 4:51 PM ET
TO is a great franchise. I think he’d be nuts to leave….but who knows how he feels about TO being a kid from Arizona.
- landros 2


You and I know about the same amount.


The only thing I can say though is if Dubas isn't handling this deal this summer the media will have a field day with it for the entire season.

EDIT: To Dubas credit though he played the media like a fiddle during the deadline period. Claimed to not move any picks for rentals and then got ROR
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 3 @ 4:52 PM ET
No. Big NO for a 2nd and 5th.
- Glak18


Chuck worked hard for that 5th... clawing and scratching for weeks... the crown jewel of his trade deadline... you can't take that away from him, even for a stud like Greenway.
Flybynight88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.29.2010

Mar 3 @ 4:52 PM ET
UpChuck said JVR will be a good mentor in the final 20 games.

It's long overdue to remove this bum!
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 3 @ 4:55 PM ET
Chuck worked hard for that 5th... clawing and scratching for weeks... the crown jewel of his trade deadline... you can't take that away from him, even for a stud like Greenway.
- Tomahawk


He also got a top score in Candy Crush too during those same weeks.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 3 @ 4:57 PM ET
UpChuck said JVR will be a good mentor in the final 20 games.

It's long overdue to remove this bum!

- Flybynight88

i love it, it's like he's purposely trying to troll us
landros 2
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Philadelphia Flyers
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Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 3 @ 4:58 PM ET
You and I know about the same amount.


The only thing I can say though is if Dubas isn't handling this deal this summer the media will have a field day with it for the entire season.

EDIT: To Dubas credit though he played the media like a fiddle during the deadline period. Claimed to not move any picks for rentals and then got ROR

- Aaron_85


Dubas finally had to push all in and good on him. I think ROR might be someone they bring back. I like what he did.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 3 @ 4:58 PM ET
of all the players we kept at the TDL i'm glad we will have Deslauriers so I can watch him punch people in the face for the next 20 or so games + years
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 3 @ 5:00 PM ET
Flyers with currently only 11 forwards and 2 of those are Lemieux and Bellows.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Mar 3 @ 5:00 PM ET
Charlie O'Connor
@charlieo_conn
Fletcher: "I'm not worried about my job. Whatever happens with me, will happen with me. That's up to Dave Scott. But everything I do is about doing what's right for the Philadelphia Flyers, & not taking shortcuts. And that's in part why we didn't make any more deals today."

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I don't think that means what he think it means.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 3 @ 5:01 PM ET
I'm watching Chucky talk now (I know late).

So basically every team said no to JvR up until 1:40pm today where it was a conditional trade.

So Flyer fans believe "Our players have no interest from others", yet the last 3 days we've seen players of little value moved over and over.

I take that as "Sorry Chuck we have no interest in dealing with you".

Looks like my tinfoil hat conspiracy theory wasn't so off.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 3 @ 5:01 PM ET
THis trade deadline was rough on the Flyers analytics department. With some older players moved. They now have to update their age distribution chart.
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