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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 3 @ 8:17 PM ET
Who gives a flying crap how he recovers. Back to defending coots the great. He’s average now and never was better than maybe slightly above average
- SMS4016


Stating that Couturier was never better than maybe slightly above average is absurd.
Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Mar 3 @ 8:22 PM ET
The one positive I’m hoping for out of this debacle is that TDL 2023 marks the point of unavoidable realization by Flyers Owners that the team have reached a point of no return and things need to change.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 3 @ 8:27 PM ET
1. then switch the pick. you get the gist

2. excuses it still can work. you know this.

3. wrong 100%. getting something for him is a win. even if trading a 5th to get a 4th. try again.

4. who give s poop about the fanbase when trading a UFA to be. you take what you can get. simple as that.

- hello it's me 2050


On your 4th point, is the fanbase happy he's still here? I don't think they are.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Mar 3 @ 8:29 PM ET
That doesn't make any sense. My post was a follow up to your Edmonton comment. Your last sentence is incoherent.

You have to build a complete team. Signing two players to almost 40% of the cap is not a good idea.

- MJL



It was just a poops and giggles scenario. A joke really. A play on what’s more crazy than our poop team.

Philly we know is gonna be garbage for long long time. Even if they were somehow to finally “get it” which we know isn’t gonna happen

Mcdavid and Matthews. Max contracts. Who cares. Give them 50% of the cap. Who cares. Fill the roster out with whatever they have left.

That team guaranteed to not only be better but also more fun and interesting to watch than whatever the flyers will have in a few years. Because philly blows.

Can’t make it more clear. Can’t help you if you can’t follow a hypothetical idea
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Mar 3 @ 8:31 PM ET
Stating that Couturier was never better than maybe slightly above average is absurd.
- MJL

You’re right. 76 career high point. 1 time selke gift award. He’s great. So happy we have him for another 7 years
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 3 @ 8:31 PM ET


It was just a poops and giggles scenario. A joke really. A play on what’s more crazy than our poop team.

Philly we know is gonna be garbage for long long time. Even if they were somehow to finally “get it” which we know isn’t gonna happen

Mcdavid and Matthews. Max contracts. Who cares. Give them 50% of the cap. Who cares. Fill the roster out with whatever they have left.

That team guaranteed to not only be better but also more fun and interesting to watch than whatever the flyers will have in a few years. Because philly blows.

Can’t make it more clear. Can’t help you if you can’t follow a hypothetical idea

- SMS4016


LOL, so I'm discussing the hypothetical, including the factors of it so you claim I can't follow it. Okay
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 3 @ 8:32 PM ET
It was just a poops and giggles scenario. A joke really. A play on what’s more crazy than our poop team.

Philly we know is gonna be garbage for long long time. Even if they were somehow to finally “get it” which we know isn’t gonna happen

Mcdavid and Matthews. Max contracts. Who cares. Give them 50% of the cap. Who cares. Fill the roster out with whatever they have left.

That team guaranteed to not only be better but also more fun and interesting to watch than whatever the flyers will have in a few years. Because philly blows.

Can’t make it more clear. Can’t help you if you can’t follow a hypothetical idea

- SMS4016


I mean it can't be worse than it is now, right? lol
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Mar 3 @ 8:32 PM ET
The one positive I’m hoping for out of this debacle is that TDL 2023 marks the point of unavoidable realization by Flyers Owners that the team have reached a point of no return and things need to change.
- Sublime55

They don’t give a flying (frank). All they care about is $$$
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Mar 3 @ 8:33 PM ET
On your 4th point, is the fanbase happy he's still here? I don't think they are.
- Aaron_85

Calling my shot now. Jvr comes up with some “injury” within next few games and boom… out rest of year
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 3 @ 8:33 PM ET
You’re right. 76 career high point. 1 time selke gift award. He’s great. So happy we have him for another 7 years
- SMS4016


Before his injury, Couturier was a 30 goal, 70 point Selke level #1 center and one of the best two way forwards in the league. If you can factually show how that is an average player or a slightly average player. I'd be happy to discuss it.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Mar 3 @ 8:38 PM ET
LOL, so I'm discussing the hypothetical, including the factors of it so you claim I can't follow it. Okay

- MJL

You’re talking about 40% and you don’t build a team that way?


Ummm obviously you can’t follow a hypothetical because no one ever said it would be wise or advisable or practical or realistic.


Should we rather discuss real life do’s and DONT’s of this poop team? That can’t even truly admit how dysfunctional they are and fire the clown of all clowns?


Spice it up a bit. Live a little.
Think of Connor and Matthews lol

Or think of the reality of this poopbag team for next 10 years. How fun
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Mar 3 @ 8:39 PM ET
I mean it can't be worse than it is now, right? lol
- Aaron_85

Oh you’re wrong there. They have proven that. They can always dig a whole deeper or find a new one. The reality truly is worse than what bs hypothetical thought anyone could possibly come up with
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 3 @ 8:40 PM ET
You’re talking about 40% and you don’t build a team that way?


Ummm obviously you can’t follow a hypothetical because no one ever said it would be wise or advisable or practical or realistic.


Should we rather discuss real life do’s and DONT’s of this poop team? That can’t even truly admit how dysfunctional they are and fire the clown of all clowns?


Spice it up a bit. Live a little.
Think of Connor and Matthews lol

Or think of the reality of this poopbag team for next 10 years. How fun

- SMS4016


Ridiculous.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Mar 3 @ 8:40 PM ET
Before his injury, Couturier was a 30 goal, 70 point Selke level #1 center and one of the best two way forwards in the league. If you can factually show how that is an average player or a slightly average player. I'd be happy to discuss it.
- MJL

No he wasnt
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 3 @ 8:43 PM ET
No he wasnt
- SMS4016


You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. The facts don't agree with you.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Mar 3 @ 8:46 PM ET
Before his injury, Couturier was a 30 goal, 70 point Selke level #1 center and one of the best two way forwards in the league. If you can factually show how that is an average player or a slightly average player. I'd be happy to discuss it.
- MJL

Setagucchi scored 56 goals 1 season. Big (frank)ing deal.
Coots had a few nice years playing with g in g prime. He scored 30 goals once. Big (frank)ing deal.
He was really good defensively for awhile and even won a “token “ selke. Big (frank)ing deal. What’s the average over career? And don’t give me bs excuses of who played him where and all that. If you’re as good as you say he was guess what he would’ve forced his way into those minutes and situation to produce.

Die on the hill of overvalue him. They won a big cock with him 12 years bud.
Guess what they’re gonna win with him next 7 years. More cock.

19 years of coots. Yeah he’s great.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Mar 3 @ 8:46 PM ET
You're entitled to your own opinion but not your own facts. The facts don't agree with you.
- MJL

Facts lmao
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 3 @ 8:46 PM ET
You two don't have to respond to one another right?
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Mar 3 @ 8:47 PM ET
They don’t give a flying (frank). All they care about is $$$
- SMS4016



I believe the flyers as an organization want to win and by win I mean win the Stanley cup.
For someone like Dave Scott I believe he wants to see the flyers win the SC. Winning the SC isn’t his passion so he delegates to others. Delegating to others is fine but there is no accountability.
IMO that makes DS piss poor at his job.
When DS is piss poor at his job then CF gets away with a terrible track record.
DS doesn’t hold CF to account for not doing his due diligence on Ellis and Coots?
When your team sucks and going into what is considered a strong 2023 draft and you have minimal draft picks then your a terrible manager of the team.
I am 100 percent confident I could run the flyers better than the current crew.
rrentz
New York Rangers
Location: HUNTINGTON, NY
Joined: 07.13.2009

Mar 3 @ 8:47 PM ET
Ridiculous.
- MJL


Rough year. It will improve..one day
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 3 @ 8:48 PM ET
Oh you’re wrong there. They have proven that. They can always dig a whole deeper or find a new one. The reality truly is worse than what bs hypothetical thought anyone could possibly come up with
- SMS4016


Fair
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Mar 3 @ 8:49 PM ET
1. He worked the phones hard for 3 weeks.

2. He was pursuing all the potential buyers over and over again.

3. Still no interest on JVR

4. He wants to get younger and competitive (Lemieux)

5. He still value JVR's guidance the last
20 games. To give the young players nolage and expertise from the legend JVR

Looks like he is home free! 🥳 🎉 🪅 🎊
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Mar 3 @ 8:54 PM ET
The one positive I’m hoping for out of this debacle is that TDL 2023 marks the point of unavoidable realization by Flyers Owners that the team have reached a point of no return and things need to change.
- Sublime55


I hope you are right. Today was a culmination of horrible decisions over the last 2 years by the GM.
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 3 @ 8:54 PM ET
Ok, let’s turn the page on today and focus on the next disaster, which is this: The Flyers are now attempting to build a contender in the image of John Tortorella.

This could get worse.

- StepfordSam

i like torts but i don't like him on a team that needs to tank and get top draft picks
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Mar 3 @ 8:54 PM ET
You two don't have to respond to one another right?
- Aaron_85

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