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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Mar 2 @ 3:23 PM ET
This isn't my area of expertise, but in general when a vacuum opens up where there is money to be made, someone will be there. I'm not that concerned - I know maybe I should be - but if I'm a sports streaming service, I'm already talking to the NHL about how I could be a fit - and I'd expect a number of suitors. If I'm the NHL I'm weighing those options as well as how quickly I can get my own platform off the ground to manage regional coverage and what the costs of doing so would be. I've read that their cool to that idea, but they really shouldn't be.

The thing with streaming is that there are a number of competitors in that market space and once you have the architecture in place, it's not that formidable of a task to make local deals with broadcasting affiliates or establish additional ones. I'd say the largest challenge the NHL faces is that it doesn't really control the content - it's all regionally owned and supplied - and the fees are distributed based on market and demand - so the smaller markets are harder to provide a profitable service for - and the profitable markets which might offset your losses are already owned and operated independently (like LeafsTV or MSG).

I guess what I'm saying is that in my mind the NHL may lose some revenue in the next deals they need to make, but I keep thinking it won't be that drastic.

- Monkeypunk


I think the problem is there isn't as much money to be made as Bally Sports thought there would be, so anyone who moves in to fill the vacuum will not be willing to pay nearly as much.

You're looking at lower revenues for local packages.

And my pessimistic view is "much, much, much lower revenues."
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Mar 2 @ 3:23 PM ET
I know nothing about this new guy but I took a quick look at his historical stats. Sounds like he's an offense first guy but his stats don't scream PP QB. Lots of 5v5 offense this year.

But I agree ..Rielly is a puzzle to me. Still has those risk taking gaffes but really doesn't/hasn't given us any offensive wow moments either. Need him to be more of a difference maker.

- The Law


He's never been a great PP quarterback imo, even in his good seasons.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Mar 2 @ 3:23 PM ET
Sit kerfoot for 7D? Sure why not?
- Aaron_85

Or we could just trade Rielly? I still haven’t figured out how his 7.5 million dollar salary is helping this team.
Salami_Tsunami
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Barrie, ON
Joined: 06.04.2016

Mar 2 @ 3:23 PM ET
With how stacked the east is, is this really the closest theyve been?
The year to have done all this was the season we choked against Montreal. Although i cant remember if there were restrictions on trades.
Anywho, dont trade any 1st for an ufa, player has to have term and be youngish

- Fakepartofme


I think the only real restriction was that they would have to quarantine for 2 weeks.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Mar 2 @ 3:25 PM ET
Or we could just trade Rielly? I still haven’t figured out how his 7.5 million dollar salary is helping this team.
- bryant

That's not happening. They need to put Rielly in a place to succeed. Which is PP2, and not with Justin Holl.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Mar 2 @ 3:25 PM ET
He's been running the Caps PP this year. John Carlson hurt, I think.
- fifty__missions


I know ..but Rielly's still put up better numbers.

I just meant his stats don't jump as being any different than MR's. He's got a goose egg in PP goals. Ideally you'd have a point shot.

I'm up for trying anything though.
bryant
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 06.28.2011

Mar 2 @ 3:26 PM ET
That's not happening.
- fifty__missions

If the team craps the bed these playoffs he would be my first choice to move in the off-season.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Mar 2 @ 3:26 PM ET
Bertuzzi-Coyle-Hall is a good top line on a handful of teams.

(frank) Boston. Going to make that second round massacre even sweeter for me.

- The Law

It would probably be the most overrated 1st line...but great as a third
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Mar 2 @ 3:26 PM ET
Or we could just trade Rielly? I still haven’t figured out how his 7.5 million dollar salary is helping this team.
- bryant

His wife is giving the team free power skating lessons.
Bullot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 07.14.2010

Mar 2 @ 3:27 PM ET
You guys are really twitchy in here today. I'm usually the bumhole.

Last night's game sucked, the team played like poop, our stars played like poop, Sammy was bad and the Justin Orr Holl showcase was a bust.

But it's ONE.GAME.FELLAS.

Leafs will be fine. They just need a minute to get used to the smell of new players in the room. Tonights game will be 100% different. 7- 3 Leafs.

As for Dubas and the deadline, he has to move 2 Dmen and probably Kerfoot. He's got a couple picks to play with too. That gives him maybe $5M to get a #4RHD or #2LW.

Does he really have to do anything? No, not really. This team should be good enough if the (frank)ing Divas get off their asses. If they lose again and have a 1st round exit, Dubas should get an extension and gut some main pieces of this team during the summer. It's the team or coach, not the GM as far as I'm concerned.

(And I am not a Dubas fan)

- underhill14



Easy for you to say. I live in Alberta, amongst unbearable Oiler fans. The Leafs come here once a year at most, so every bodies talking about the game with the Leafs! A good ticket is $500-$700 to see the game! So you drive 2 hours, fight the traffic, settle into your $700 seat, and watch that crap only to drive 2hrs back home rehashing what you just watched. But it’s ok, they might be back next year and you can do it again.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Mar 2 @ 3:29 PM ET
I can't think of a single team* where Coyle would be 1C/2C.

* I don't consider ARZ a team.

- mjones242


And that's why I didn't say that. I said the whole line ..and yes, I was being a little dramatic to make the point that's it's a pretty ridiculous 3rd line.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 2 @ 3:29 PM ET
Ok lets get a time machine and go back to going all in then.

Or just rebuild now.

- Santo_44


How about we just stop being an asshat to other posters who don't share your views? You can just skip posts you don't like instead of responding right?

Same goes for everyone. We don't HAVE to engage in people who disagree with you. Talk to Zezel.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

Mar 2 @ 3:29 PM ET
Easy for you to say. I live in Alberta, amongst unbearable Oiler fans. The Leafs come here once a year at most, so every bodies talking about the game with the Leafs! A good ticket is $500-$700 to see the game! So you drive 2 hours, fight the traffic, settle into your $700 seat, and watch that crap only to drive 2hrs back home rehashing what you just watched. But it’s ok, they might be back next year and you can do it again.
- Bullot

You had my sympathy as soon as I read the bolded part.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Mar 2 @ 3:29 PM ET
If the team craps the bed these playoffs he would be my first choice to move in the off-season.
- bryant

No move clause. It would have to be someone other than Kyle who was willing to make life unpleasant for him to move.


Let's just get him going and in a role to feel good about his game.
Archaic
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Waterloo, ON
Joined: 01.12.2011

Mar 2 @ 3:31 PM ET

Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
·
33s
Hearing #Oilers have acquired C Nick Bjugstad from #Yotes.

@DailyFaceoff
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

Mar 2 @ 3:33 PM ET
How about we just stop being an asshat to other posters who don't share your views? You can just skip posts you don't like instead of responding right?

Same goes for everyone. We don't HAVE to engage in people who disagree with you. Talk to Zezel.

- Aaron_85


Its discussion.

But whatever moving on, hope you did something about page 23 on the last page
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Mar 2 @ 3:35 PM ET
I think the problem is there isn't as much money to be made as Bally Sports thought there would be, so anyone who moves in to fill the vacuum will not be willing to pay nearly as much.

You're looking at lower revenues for local packages.

And my pessimistic view is "much, much, much lower revenues."

- Atomic Wedgie

It'll be fine, just declare the KHL an enemy of the state and get the NHL 10 billion in aid from the Pentagon.
Bullot
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Red Deer, AB
Joined: 07.14.2010

Mar 2 @ 3:36 PM ET
Or we could just trade Rielly? I still haven’t figured out how his 7.5 million dollar salary is helping this team.
- bryant



Completely agree. The new GM should move this contract out! It’s great that Dubas is faithful to his guys, BUT this is a performance based industry and winning is the only thing that matters. If you stop being worth your salary, or at least close, movem out! It’s not a country club, winning comes first. That said Matthews needs to start performing……absolutely nobody is talking about his lack of performance and he makes $12Mil. Everybody is on Holl and he makes $2Mil. One is earning his contract and being dumped on and the other is not earning his contract and Not being dumped on! Heck, Hyman has more goals than Matthews and he’s making $5Mil. Matthews is getting paid to score goals…..get it done!
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Mar 2 @ 3:38 PM ET
It would probably be the most overrated 1st line...but great as a third
- AdamFrench


Damnit ....I wasn't being literal but lets test my hyperbole.

I could argue ..

1. Yotes
2. Habs ...Love Suzuki but Gurianov and Hoffman suck ass.
3. Flyers ...Hayes and Farabee and JVA'ren't
4. Chicago ...nothing left.

...need one more

5. Sharks - couture and hertl don't play together

Boom ...it's close.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Mar 2 @ 3:38 PM ET
Completely agree. The new GM should move this contract out! It’s great that Dubas is faithful to his guys, BUT this is a performance based industry and winning is the only thing that matters. If you stop being worth your salary, or at least close, movem out! It’s not a country club, winning comes first. That said Matthews needs to start performing……absolutely nobody is talking about his lack of performance and he makes $12Mil. Everybody is on Holl and he makes $2Mil. One is earning his contract and being dumped on and the other is not earning his contract and Not being dumped on! Heck, Hyman has more goals than Matthews and he’s making $5Mil. Matthews is getting paid to score goals…..get it done!
- Bullot


You, sir, have certainly mastered the use of the exclamation mark!
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

Mar 2 @ 3:38 PM ET
I know ..but Rielly's still put up better numbers.

I just meant his stats don't jump as being any different than MR's. He's got a goose egg in PP goals. Ideally you'd have a point shot.

I'm up for trying anything though.

- The Law


One of the things you'll typically see in cases where a defenseman is getting power play goals is large forwards supporting him - and guys who will go to the crease and screen the goalie. Even with a great clapper, goalies will stop those if they can see them. The Leafs power play relies on moving the puck around the outside until they find a seam they like - but as a result doesn't usually result in the forwards collapsing to the net and creating havoc or a screen. You might see that on PP2 which simplifies things in order to get results. But on PP1, even our net front guy (typically JT) plays too high in the slot to act as a screen - or even get off a good tip.

Remember - I don't really like Rielly that much, but I don't think his lack of a clapper is what stops him from scoring on the power play - it's more the fact that all of his shots are seen and our PP rotation and structure is geared towards seam passes down low as opposed to generating net shots from out high.
The Law
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.29.2008

Mar 2 @ 3:39 PM ET
Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
·
33s
Hearing #Oilers have acquired C Nick Bjugstad from #Yotes.

@DailyFaceoff

- Archaic


Oilers make a nice move.
Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh
Joined: 04.06.2011

Mar 2 @ 3:40 PM ET
Damnit ....I wasn't being literal but lets test my hyperbole.

I could argue ..

1. Yotes
2. Habs ...Love Suzuki but Gurianov and Hoffman suck ass.
3. Flyers ...Hayes and Farabee and JVA'ren't
4. Chicago ...nothing left.

...need one more

5. Sharks - couture and hertl don't play together

Boom ...it's close.

- The Law

Agee with you, just not a fan of either Hall or Coyle, think both are vastly overrated vs reputation.
fifty__missions
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Burkie's Rented Barn, ON
Joined: 02.12.2013

Mar 2 @ 3:42 PM ET
One of the things you'll typically see in cases where a defenseman is getting power play goals is large forwards supporting him - and guys who will go to the crease and screen the goalie. Even with a great clapper, goalies will stop those if they can see them. The Leafs power play relies on moving the puck around the outside until they find a seam they like - but as a result doesn't usually result in the forwards collapsing to the net and creating havoc or a screen. You might see that on PP2 which simplifies things in order to get results. But on PP1, even our net front guy (typically JT) plays too high in the slot to act as a screen - or even get off a good tip.

Remember - I don't really like Rielly that much, but I don't think his lack of a clapper is what stops him from scoring on the power play - it's more the fact that all of his shots are seen and our PP rotation and structure is geared towards seam passes down low as opposed to generating net shots from out high.

- Monkeypunk


There is no guile whatsoever. Rielly telegraphs virtually every pass, and he cannot get the puck to net with a wrister. Gets blocked every time. Ffs, Connor Timmins can at least get the puck on the net from the blueline (and, no, Im not advocating Timmins run our PP...)
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

Mar 2 @ 3:43 PM ET
That's not happening. They need to put Rielly in a place to succeed. Which is PP2, and not with Justin Holl.
- fifty__missions


7.5 needs to buy you more than PP2.

He has no physical element to his game at all. He is clueless in his own end, and sacrifices defense for offense... and is achieving nothing on offense.

He is bringing less than nothing to the team.
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