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BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
Location: I'll always remember the last words my grandfather ever told me. He said, "A Truck!", SK
Joined: 09.21.2009

Mar 8 @ 11:50 AM ET

- tomburton99


What better punishment than getting steamrolled shift after shift after shift by the team that traded you away and picked up Brent Burns instead?
SuperSchennBros
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Mar 8 @ 11:53 AM ET
Hockeybuzz.com: Where the cool crowd comes to play.

Slogan sounds catchy to me.
SuperSchennBros
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Mar 8 @ 11:54 AM ET
Not at all, pick on Risto when he deserves it. Last night I think there many other Flyer players that deserved criticism, including Hart. We are stuck with Risto, and I don't like it any more than you do. Still, I would much rather see DeAngelo and Sanheim off the team before Risto.
- jd250

I like Risto. I don’t have a problem saying it.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 8 @ 12:00 PM ET
I like Risto. I don’t have a problem saying it.
- SuperSchennBros


So edgy
SuperSchennBros
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Mar 8 @ 12:03 PM ET
So edgy
- Tomahawk

Look at you. So proud to be “big man on campus” on hockeybuzz.com

This is your reality. Not sad at all.
Tomahawk
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Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 8 @ 12:09 PM ET
“big man on campus” on hockeybuzz.com
- SuperSchennBros


Flattered that you think of me that way
SuperSchennBros
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Mar 8 @ 12:10 PM ET
Flattered that you think of me that way
- Tomahawk

Oh I knew you would be. Like I said, this is your reality.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Mar 8 @ 12:12 PM ET
Look at you. So proud to be “big man on campus” on hockeybuzz.com

This is your reality. Not sad at all.

- SuperSchennBros

I’m the big man on campus around here 🤣
Tomahawk
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Mar 8 @ 12:13 PM ET
I’m the big man on campus around here 🤣
- ClaudeFather


You're no Plind, sorry
Tomahawk
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Mar 8 @ 12:14 PM ET
Oh I knew you would be. Like I said, this is your reality.
- SuperSchennBros


Your obsession with me has been noted


SuperSchennBros
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Mar 8 @ 12:15 PM ET
Your obsession with me has been noted
- Tomahawk

He said light headed as he got off at his computer desk…
Tomahawk
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Mar 8 @ 12:18 PM ET
He said light headed as he got off at his computer desk…
- SuperSchennBros


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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 8 @ 12:20 PM ET
I mean, I get it, Risto is not that great of a defenseman, and yes I would have liked to see him be stronger in front of his own net on at least 1 or two of those goals. However, there were several Flyers that had bad games. Risto was not benched for about half the game, Farabee and Sanheim were!

BTW, I am interested in what the Flyers do with Sanheim. I don't think he has a lot of trade value and with his new contract kicking in July 1st, I wonder how the Flyers can get rid of him. Its clear to me he is not going to survive Tort's "addition by subtraction" goal for this off-season.

- jd250


Wait, now Ristolainen is not that great of a defenseman? What happened to having his best NHL season? That Tortorella and Shaw fixed him? The Flyers best and steadiest defenseman?
SuperSchennBros
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Mar 8 @ 12:23 PM ET
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- Tomahawk

Once again. Glad I could help you.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 8 @ 12:23 PM ET
Because its not fair! Out of all the things you could have observed in the game, the only thing you observe is Risto was on the ice for all 5 goals against? You posted this observation deliberately to emphasize what a bad player Risto is, otherwise you would not have posted it. My only point here is before you throw rocks at Risto, just be sure he has earned it!
- jd250


Ristolainen has earned those rocks for his entire 10 year career. He is an extremely mediocre defenseman who is now basically a 3rd pair defenseman.
BINGO!
Carolina Hurricanes
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Joined: 09.21.2009

Mar 8 @ 12:27 PM ET
Ristolainen has earned those rocks for his entire 10 year career. He is an extremely mediocre defenseman who is now basically a 3rd pair defenseman.
- MJL


At least he's been borderline competent this season, which is far more than can be said for the last few years.

Wouldn't expect it to last though.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 8 @ 12:29 PM ET
It’s obvious, at least to me, that Tortorella plays favorites and he needs to be called out on it.

It looks like he's playing favorites to those who don' t know how to evaluate talent. An example is Cates. He is 1rst line center because of the following reasons:
- Doesn't take off nights or disappear for long stretches
- Is young and can keep pace to check the opposing teams' forwards in what is a young man's game today
- Is able to execute Torts' center ice checking strategy (active stick, seal passing lanes, cause turnovers, back checking = disruptive)
- For all of the above reasons is why Hayes is not first line center.

Cates does all those things, and now he is starting to chip in offense. It's called player development. Long term it is unlikely he would be the first line guy, nor would he be on a playoff team, but in the absence of an alternative, he is the best they've got.

- BluehorseShoe64


Tortorella doesn't have a center ice checking strategy. The Flyers give up the neutral zone and thier blueline like it's the southern border.
Cates is 7th among Flyers forwards in scoring rate while playing 1st line ice time and playing a lot with the Flyers best offensive forwards.
It is not good player development playing Cates out of position and putting the need of the team ahead of what is best for the player.
Hayes should've been at center the entire time and Cates playing on the wing. Preferably with Frost and Tippet.
hockeylover
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: There's always next year., NT
Joined: 08.03.2006

Mar 8 @ 12:39 PM ET
Testy in here today. Be careful or Alf is going to come in and spear you all in the nuts TDA style!!
Tomahawk
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Mar 8 @ 12:45 PM ET
Testes in here today.
- hockeylover


ftfy
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 8 @ 12:49 PM ET
I like that the Lightning players jumped him and I also liked that the Flyers' players did not earnestly try to save him either. The refs made the right call also. I think the league should suspend him for at least 5 games given his history. I have no sympathy for DeAngelo in this case, he crossed the line in a big way and deserves all he gets as a result. Also I really can't root for a team that supports a player like that. One of the many reasons I hate the Burins so much; for their support of Marchand.
- jd250

After being a fan of this team for too many decades and seeing guys Like Dave Brown. Ken Linesman and of course Clarke I can’t get too worked about a tap to the nads.
Glak18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "It's pretty big loogie on my face, so I was pretty psssted".", PA
Joined: 06.26.2007

Mar 8 @ 1:04 PM ET
There will be elite players coming out of the draft after #6 this year, but I have no faith that the Flyers will be one of the teams that identifies the good ones.

They probably already (frank)ed up taking Cutter over Jiricek.

- Tomahawk


Not sure about elite, but we shall see.

Did you read Pronman's prospect update recently? Found it a bit comical because he used A LOT of current Flyer players as a comparable.

FYI: I know what comparable are, doesn't mean player/career clones...just relative in skills and attributes.
THE EVIL WITHIN
Location: NJ
Joined: 11.20.2017

Mar 8 @ 1:24 PM ET
Farabee exploded for an assist prior to being benched. So he's off the futility list.
- PLindbergh31

All these benchings looks like a narcissistic side-show for Torts.
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Mar 8 @ 1:25 PM ET
It doesn't get talked about enough, but it is pitiful how putrid the Flyers powerplay (really special teams as a whole) has been going on 3 years. Go figure, trading for Angelo didn't magically fix that this season either. Although I guess a 3-percentage point improvement from last year is progress?

Edit: just looked at the fancy stats for their powerplay on naturalstattrick and my God it is worse than I thought.
Tomahawk
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Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 8 @ 1:30 PM ET
Not sure about elite, but we shall see.

Did you read Pronman's prospect update recently? Found it a bit comical because he used A LOT of current Flyer players as a comparable.

FYI: I know what comparable are, doesn't mean player/career clones...just relative in skills and attributes.

- Glak18


Just read thru it. TK and Sanheim are pretty distinct archetypes, so I understand using them as examples. Comparing somebody to York tho, when we don't even know what he is yet? I thought that was a bit strange.

Rankings themselves are classic Pronman.
Tomahawk
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Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 8 @ 1:32 PM ET
All these benchings looks like a narcissistic side-show for Torts.
- THE EVIL WITHIN


I forget where I saw/read it, but somebody was saying that Torts demands that all his players check their egos at the door so there's only room for his. I thought that was pretty accurate lol.
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