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Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Mar 10 @ 11:11 AM ET
That as well. Though Comcast may not want 3 coaches on the payroll. AV 5 million, Torts 4 million, new guy ?
- furio16


There is so much to be done to fix the organization to be competitive, the HC position is not that important right now. IMO. Hockey Ops structure must be addressed and then scouting dept. over hauled. Roster evaluation. Not pro-Torts, but more vital areas should be addressed first.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 10 @ 11:11 AM ET
The Flyers issue was never a lack of effort. Although they've been trying to market effort as a product. Smart and informed fans will never buy that but that's not what the majority of Flyers fans are. Tortorella is basically just a high paid interim coach who has dummied down their style of play to try an compete. It's all he knows. It's not working and it won't work, even if they get more talent. Keeping in mind that my definition of working is becoming a true top team in the league. Not just a playoff team that can compete.
- MJL



Your takes on Tort's are just comical.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 10 @ 11:12 AM ET
Mathieu Darche is director of hockey ops for tampa. Ive heard his name mentioned before. I wonder if he’d be a good candidate?
- Hextall271


If they hire from outside at least you'd hope they'd pick off somebody from one of the best teams. Not like... go after the GM of the Minnesota Wild or something lol.
bird_dog_pa
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 07.05.2011

Mar 10 @ 11:12 AM ET
Yeah it’s almost like Elon’s dad doesn’t own a diamond mine or something

The twitter deal will go down as one of the worst purchases in history. Sure let him run this franchise. What could go wrong?

- hereticpride


Elon Musk bought twitter because he could. When you have that much f you money normal rationale for buying an entity such as twitter goes out the window.
Flyerfan2868
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Edmonton, AB
Joined: 02.15.2013

Mar 10 @ 11:12 AM ET
Barber's whispering names into Scott's ear as we speak
- Tomahawk


Yeah, I'm not getting my hopes up as the more things "change" in this organization, the more they stay the same. If there's one thing this organization is "good" at doing, it's ensuring that nepotism thrives in their development of the front office and player personnel. It's what they do. They don't develop players, instead they develop and create job opportunities for friends of the organization....
Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 10 @ 11:13 AM ET
Do not not disagree. Just floating what they may not want to do.

To me you clean house. Coaching staffs at both levels. Torts isn't the future. Whenever he is fired, I would think a new coach will have a much different style of play he would want to employ. So start fresh.

- furio16


I think a house cleaning is in order. Lhv and hockey ops. Keep gritty. Haha
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 10 @ 11:14 AM ET
Him or Stacey Roest would be good candidates IMO. I heard Tulsky's name thrown around on this forum today. I just want to point out Tulsky holds a B.A. in chemistry and physics from Harvard University and a Ph.D. in chemistry from UC-Berkeley. Haven't we had enough of a Harvard graduate running this franchise. The Flyers don't need a metric geek, they need a real hockey person in charge.
- jd250


You should apply. Cite your past playing and coaching experience. Bill will put in a good word for you.


Hextall271
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ersson-Ville, NB, NB
Joined: 01.18.2007

Mar 10 @ 11:14 AM ET
If they hire from outside at least you'd hope they'd pick off somebody from one of the best teams. Not like... go after the GM of the Minnesota Wild or something lol.
- Tomahawk


Well. I’m not a genius but I’d suspect that Darche would know how Tampa was build and could chart a similar course.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 10 @ 11:16 AM ET
Well. I’m not a genius but I’d suspect that Darche would know how Tampa was build and could chart a similar course.
- Hextall271


I'd be relieved if they hired anybody with even half a clue at this point.
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Mar 10 @ 11:28 AM ET
I'd be relieved if they hired anybody with even half a clue at this point.
- Tomahawk


Regrettably, the people doing the hiring must first have a clue themselves. And this is the core problem with the Flyers to begin with.
NC Flyers Fan
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.19.2018

Mar 10 @ 11:30 AM ET
I'd be relieved if they hired anybody with even half a clue at this point.
- Tomahawk


Don’t let them wear you down. If the organization doesn’t get it right, fans can just stay mad. We don’t have to take a pacifier.

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 10 @ 11:30 AM ET
Wow!!!! Ya know the theory about numbers and the universe?

Today is my bday.

I’m 48 today

Briere? 48

Is this a sign?

What a great bday gift flyers. Lmao

- SMS4016

Happy birthday!
2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Mar 10 @ 11:31 AM ET
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=K3SA5Z-cbC8
- THE EVIL WITHIN

hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 10 @ 11:32 AM ET
I think a house cleaning is in order. Lhv and hockey ops. Keep gritty. Haha
- Hextall271

Wait! There are still a few janitorial jobs Lappy hasn’t had a shot at yet!
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Mar 10 @ 11:35 AM ET
If they hire from outside at least you'd hope they'd pick off somebody from one of the best teams. Not like... go after the GM of the Minnesota Wild or something lol.
- Tomahawk

But Clarke vouched for him! And I understand Bobby was something back when my Dad (who’s in his mid 60s)was in high school. We must stay the course!
Letterkenney
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Dementia Patient in the White House, DC, PA
Joined: 03.20.2020

Mar 10 @ 11:42 AM ET
But Clarke vouched for him! And I understand Bobby was something back when my Dad (who’s in his mid 60s)was in high school. We must stay the course!
- hereticpride


True. The franchise hasn't quite become Arizona east yet. There's always hope!
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Mar 10 @ 11:53 AM ET
Him or Stacey Roest would be good candidates IMO. I heard Tulsky's name thrown around on this forum today. I just want to point out Tulsky holds a B.A. in chemistry and physics from Harvard University and a Ph.D. in chemistry from UC-Berkeley. Haven't we had enough of a Harvard graduate running this franchise. The Flyers don't need a metric geek, they need a real hockey person in charge.
- jd250


I really do not care whether a GM candidate has a chemistry degree or has never finished high school as long as he/ she has full command of what they need to do and have competency in doing that.

Clarke, Homer, Hextall have been "real hockey persons"
Go for the qualifications not the pedigree.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 10 @ 1:04 PM ET
It makes the most sense to get the talent and then see what happens with Torts and the systems. Torts has been very good for the goalies’ development, it has been far more predictable in front with less of the impossible saves. Younger players are improving. Torts has said multiple times that he would not be here to see it through.

Firing Fletcher is the first move in a change of direction…now we find out if it goes anywhere. Will they get the high end talent? Build a complete team that can contend? The coach isn’t the issue for me right now. Let’s see what gives next in the front office.

- NC Flyers Fan


The improvement has been minimal at best. The facts bear that out. We have a track record with Tortorella and how he coaches. He is not changing. Veteran coaches don't change.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 10 @ 1:06 PM ET


Your takes on Tort's are just comical.

- jd250


Your reply here with zero substance is an indicator of both the weakness of your position and the strength of my position. You couldn't possibly make a coherent and intelligent argument against. Just like you couldn't in the Frost conversation. So, all you can do is post rhetoric and Smilies.
You replied in the same manner when I told you about Fletcher in the past when you were saying he was putting the team on the path to the cup. We know how that has turned out. There is a track record here. I look forward to the day when you turn on Tortorella and act like you knew it all along.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 10 @ 1:10 PM ET
Him or Stacey Roest would be good candidates IMO. I heard Tulsky's name thrown around on this forum today. I just want to point out Tulsky holds a B.A. in chemistry and physics from Harvard University and a Ph.D. in chemistry from UC-Berkeley. Haven't we had enough of a Harvard graduate running this franchise. The Flyers don't need a metric geek, they need a real hockey person in charge.
- jd250


Tulsky is a brilliant hockey person
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 10 @ 1:44 PM ET
I really do not care whether a GM candidate has a chemistry degree or has never finished high school as long as he/ she has full command of what they need to do and have competency in doing that.

Clarke, Homer, Hextall have been "real hockey persons"
Go for the qualifications not the pedigree.

- missingmike


I don’t know how this is gonna sound but I don’t put much stock into this because they’re time as players were different and along time ago but to Hextall’s credit, I do think he was trying to rebuild/retool the right way. He just took too long and made costly mistakes along the way.

With Danny Briere I am optimistic. He was a long time Flyer. He was a player when the game went from old to young and survived the 2005 lockout. If none of this means anything to anyone, I look at Joe Sakic’s success with the Colorado as GM. Steve Yzerman’s success with Tampa Bay. I look at the direction Chris Drury is taking the New York Rangers. Why not give a former player a shot? It seems to be a trend that is working.
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