2 year front loaded extension with a NMC for a guy over 35 is a fireable offence. Crazy stuff.
- MattStrat

What about 4 and 6 year deals like Geno and Letang?

What about 4 and 6 year deals like Geno and Letang?
- Feds91Stammer

How dare you talk about Saint Geno like that! Don't you know he's better than Toews!!!

I looked at 35+ deals too and only found Goligoski, Giordano, MAF, and Suter to have deals that were exempt from the 35+ rules.

So it seems agents try to make sure the deal is structured in a way that makes the deal buyout proof to protect their aging asset.

So Geno, Letang, Carter, PEB, Perry, Ovi, M. Smith, and Crawford all had/have deals subject to those rules.

So only 4 out of the 12 deals have been exempt since the rule change by my count and interesting enough for you guys Billy G signed 2 of those.
- Feds91Stammer

That's all a crazy find. Smart agents and dumb GMs. If they do retire though, they dont get paid for the remaining years, correct? Just the team gets a cap hit shaft?

What about 4 and 6 year deals like Geno and Letang?
- Feds91Stammer

hahaha fvck....while its entirely possible they are as poopty as Carter at 38 I still feel a bit different about those guys due to the long history and memories with them.

That's all a crazy find. Smart agents and dumb GMs. If they do retire though, they dont get paid for the remaining years, correct? Just the team gets a cap hit shaft?
- MattStrat

Right the players wouldn't get paid if they retire. But they still get 2/3rds of the payout if bought out while the team still gets the full cap hit. Basically puts the ability to continue playing/play out the contract in the players hands.

So either these guys go on LTIR as their career ends or you pray you can dump them with a pick like Toronto did with Marleau for buyout purposes.

hahaha fvck....while its entirely possible they are as poopty as Carter at 38 I still feel a bit different about those guys due to the long history and memories with them.
- MattStrat

Yeah they should be in the teardown phase of the rebuild at that point so probably won't matter as much.

Yeah they should be in the teardown phase of the rebuild at that point so probably won't matter as much.
- Feds91Stammer

Depending on how this season plays out, the teardown may begin next year.

Depending on how this season plays out, the teardown may begin next year.
- jmatchett383

Of the front office sure but the top end of their roster is too competent to justify a teardown yet.

Of the front office sure but the top end of their roster is too competent to justify a teardown yet.
- Feds91Stammer

If prime McDavid and Draisaitl can't win with crap depth and below average goaltending, what makes you think past their primes Sid and Geno can?

hahahahh the irony in your posts is just too much sometimes hahaha holy sh!t

"I AM DONE" fvkcing finally! Don't let the door hit you on the way out!
- MattStrat

He'll be back.

If prime McDavid and Draisaitl can't win with crap depth and below average goaltending, what makes you think past their primes Sid and Geno can?
- jmatchett383

Who said I think they can win? Just saying its hard to justify a teardown when your top 2 centers are still top 25 in the league in scoring.

Who said I think they can win? Just saying its hard to justify a teardown when your top 2 centers are still top 25 in the league in scoring.
- Feds91Stammer

Pocklington had no issue with it.

Also, if you're not going to win, or be stuck in purgatory, might as well being the teardown early. Sid and Geno will still attract an audience.

Pocklington had no issue with it.

Also, if you're not going to win, or be stuck in purgatory, might as well being the teardown early. Sid and Geno will still attract an audience.
- jmatchett383

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

Attendance is already down an average of 2000 people since the 16/17 season.

I wouldn't be so sure about that.

Attendance is already down an average of 2000 people since the 16/17 season.
- Feds91Stammer

Attendance is down in most places across the league, no?

If prime McDavid and Draisaitl can't win with crap depth and below average goaltending, what makes you think past their primes Sid and Geno can?
- jmatchett383

Bit premature for this statement, no?

Hahaha. The scapegoatism thickens. Carter is now at fault for goals against whilst on the bench. The clown shoes are long around here.

Attendance is down in most places across the league, no?
- MattStrat

I don't see anything super conclusive on that but certain markets, usually those with poopty teams, have seen the biggest decrease.

Obviously there have been a lot of factors recently that would cause fans, especially thte casual ones, to not attend games.

I don't see anything super conclusive on that but certain markets, usually those with poopty teams, have seen the biggest decrease.

Obviously there have been a lot of factors recently that would cause fans, especially thte casual ones, to not attend games.
- Feds91Stammer

Yeah, for sure.

Hahaha. The scapegoatism thickens. Carter is now at fault for goals against whilst on the bench. The clown shoes are long around here.
- Grinder47

Its not Carter's fault the Pens played the best team in their own end in the league last night.

I kinda figured mid-30s, laid-off guy paying child support for 3 kids who's just mad at the world and anyone who has any money whatsoever.
- jmatchett383

I was thinking like 5 kids

Bit premature for this statement, no?
- MattStrat

This could be their year, but it hasn't worked so far.

This could be their year, but it hasn't worked so far.
- jmatchett383

They look like they're on a f'n mission, dont they? If they both stay healthy I think they have a good enough supporting case to get to the final. Goaltending is the most suspect thing for them IMO.

They look like they're on a f'n mission, dont they? If they both stay healthy I think they have a good enough supporting case to get to the final. Goaltending is the most suspect thing for them IMO.
- MattStrat

Yeah they better make a sacrifice to the Voo Doo Goalie Gods.

Attendance is down in most places across the league, no?
- MattStrat

I think construction around the Pens arena is really hindering their attendance as well. My bro said it’s a nightmare to get to the arena. They park out in Station Square and take the train back here lol. Tix in certain markets are way overpriced too.

hahaha fvck....while its entirely possible they are as poopty as Carter at 38 I still feel a bit different about those guys due to the long history and memories with them.
- MattStrat

And unlike Carter, they are still playing decent hockey.