Hart is sick, Sandstrom starting tonight.

Listen, I get it, you are trying to make a point by over emphasizing what people were saying about Seeler.

You see a guy that is worth less than a 5th round pick who would probably never play in the NHL.

I see a guy signed at the league minimum who is a veteran. A guy I would be comfortable having as the 7th guy over a younger player who I would rather be playing.

And if Seeler has to play he is much better than his cap hit.

I get that you would rather have the draft pick and sit a kid in the press box. We just disagree. It's about asset management nothing more. I would rather pay Seeler 750k and have a guy who can actually play if needed over a guy you may have to pay a million but cant play a lick.

Either way, I don't want a kid being the 7th guy.
- MBFlyerfan

i see a replaceable player the gm said he would only consider trading if offered an overpayment was offered. that is poor management. never said i wanted a kid as the 7th d man.

Such desperation.
- MJL

yes he is reaching

i see a replaceable player the gm said he would only consider trading if offered an overpayment was offered. that is poor management
- Peter Richards

Sure he is replaceable. But I highly doubt you get a comparable player for the same cap hit.

You most likely will be paying more for a player who is not as good.

Bird in hand so to speak.

Listen, I get it, you are trying to make a point by over emphasizing what people were saying about Seeler.

You see a guy that is worth less than a 5th round pick who would probably never play in the NHL.

I see a guy signed at the league minimum who is a veteran. A guy I would be comfortable having as the 7th guy over a younger player who I would rather be playing.

And if Seeler has to play he is much better than his cap hit.

I get that you would rather have the draft pick and sit a kid in the press box. We just disagree. It's about asset management nothing more. I would rather pay Seeler 750k and have a guy who can actually play if needed over a guy you may have to pay a million but cant play a lick.

Either way, I don't want a kid being the 7th guy.
- MBFlyerfan

This, plus I think Seeler will be much more valuable at next year's deadline playing on an expiring deal.

Sure he is replaceable. But I highly doubt you get a comparable player for the same cap hit.

You most likely will be paying more for a player who is not as good.

Bird in hand so to speak.
- MBFlyerfan

happens every year during the ufa period. how much more are we paying for a 7th d man. seriously. to me that is poor management. but good to know you think chuck's path was right for that one.

This, plus I think Seeler will be much more valuable at next year's deadline playing on an expiring deal.
- TobyFlenderson

hope you are right

I see a lot of talk about trading sanheim next off season but doesn’t he have a NTC or NMC that kicks in this upcoming season?

I see a lot of talk about trading sanheim next off season but doesn’t he have a NTC or NMC that kicks in this upcoming season?
- Bob Habib

not before his contract kicks in at least, but not sure

I see a lot of talk about trading sanheim next off season but doesn’t he have a NTC or NMC that kicks in this upcoming season?
- Bob Habib

Full NTC kicks in on July 1

Hart is sick, Sandstrom starting tonight.
- Trox88

I would be also.

Sure he is replaceable. But I highly doubt you get a comparable player for the same cap hit.

You most likely will be paying more for a player who is not as good.

Bird in hand so to speak.
- MBFlyerfan

If you're going into a rebuild. Seeler is the kind of player you want on the roster. He is serviceable and cheap and can give you reliable minutes. He won't block a younger player and he can move in and out of the lineup. A player that can save you cap space. The Flyers need 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks. Another 5th or 6th pick won't make a difference. There was more value in keeping him than trading him. There also have been zero reports that I'm aware of that anyone had interest or made an offer for Seeler.

If you're going into a rebuild. Seeler is the kind of player you want on the roster. He is serviceable and cheap and can give you reliable minutes. He won't block a younger player and he can move in and out of the lineup. A player that can save you cap space. The Flyers need 1st, 2nd and 3rd round picks. Another 5th or 6th pick won't make a difference. There was more value in keeping him than trading him. There also have been zero reports that I'm aware of that anyone had interest or made an offer for Seeler.
- MJL

correct, no one was willing to pay what chuck asked for. and disagree. if you don't have the picks you won't ever get the players. where would tampa be without one of their 5th round picks in point. detroit with zetterberg and datysuk. we even have a rookie in cates doing well. he was a 5th round pick. the list continues. yes longer shot to draft that player, but if you don't have the pick you can't draft said player.

Full NTC kicks in on July 1
- Tomahawk

draft day deal???? i think he or provie will be gone.

I see a lot of talk about trading sanheim next off season but doesn’t he have a NTC or NMC that kicks in this upcoming season?
- Bob Habib]

Full NTC kicks in on July 1
- Tomahawk

Seriously? CF gave him a a full ntc??? You gotta be kidding?

I see a lot of talk about trading sanheim next off season but doesn’t he have a NTC or NMC that kicks in this upcoming season?
- Bob Habib]




Seriously? CF gave him a a full ntc??? You gotta be kidding?
- Robert's Plant

Yeah.. for what.

Yeah.. for what.
- Peter Richards

You wonder why the players loved him.

Players GM

Yeah.. for what.
- Peter Richards

Years 1-4 full NTC, years 5-8 he has a M-NTC with a 12 team no trade.

Ugh.


Edited to add: That doesn't mean he cant be traded. It just means he has full control on where he goes.

So again...

Ugh

I see a lot of talk about trading sanheim next off season but doesn’t he have a NTC or NMC that kicks in this upcoming season?
- Bob Habib]




Seriously? CF gave him a a full ntc??? You gotta be kidding?
- Robert's Plant

Years 1-4 full NTC, years 5-8 he has a M-NTC with a 12 team no trade.

Ugh.
- MBFlyerfan

Between the season he has had, the amount/length of the contract, and with this full / m ntc, they won't be able to unload it for anything of value. MAYBE a 4th? Horrible.

Between the season he has had, the amount/length of the contract, and with this full / m ntc, they won't be able to unload it for anything of value. MAYBE a 4th? Horrible.
- Robert's Plant

I think I would take the 4th and more so the cap space.

Briere already said he doesn't envision a fire sale.

Keep that in mind as you let your imaginations wander lol

Years 1-4 full NTC, years 5-8 he has a M-NTC with a 12 team no trade.

Ugh.


Edited to add: That doesn't mean he cant be traded. It just means he has full control on where he goes.

So again...

Ugh
- MBFlyerfan

If his struggles continue it will be even harder to trade him. Again. I think one of he or provie stays. Not sure which one.

Briere already said he doesn't envision a fire sale.

Keep that in mind as you let your imaginations wander lol
- Tomahawk

Said before I only see two or three players traded this summer. That was before Danny took over. His comments seem along the same lines.

Years 1-4 full NTC, years 5-8 he has a M-NTC with a 12 team no trade.

Ugh.


Edited to add: That doesn't mean he cant be traded. It just means he has full control on where he goes.

So again...

Ugh
- MBFlyerfan

The term the money and the clause lol bent Fletcher over and said take it