Bill, your feedback on Tyson and Elliot, how did they fare in the NHL, where do you seem them fitting in long term

The word culture highly annoys me. The Flyers culture is in the past. It is long gone, dead and buried and has been for a while. Stop talking about that culture as it means anything. It doesn't. Not anymore. Even now, Scott and Briere are still talking that nonsense. They can't move on it seems and that is the biggest issue. Recognize and acknowledge that the Flyers culture is dead and a new culture needs to be built. One that is in line with the modern day NHL.
- MJL

You are still using the word that annoys you.

There isn’t anything wrong with word itself. It just wasn’t what they seem to think it was.

It is laughable to suggest with the level of incompetence of this organization that any fan should give it a rest. Yes, when it's this bad, anything and everything deserves scrutiny. Speaking of a wrinkle in the sheets. That is the bed that they made for themselves.
- MJL

Here’s an idea. Find a better way to spend your time. Go learn a second or third language or something. Where does complaining every second of everyday about this organization get you? The team is bad. Most teams reach this point at some point in their history, I’m not gonna allow it to ruin my days, weeks, months or years. Turning on Danny Briere two minutes after accepting a job as interm because he says “the team harder to play against” isn’t rational thinking. What is he suppose to say? It’s all GM talk. Nobody is saying how they really feel when the cameras are on except maybe John Tortorella and you don’t like what he has to say either.

I bolded the phrase I was referring to and the context around it .. not sure why you say there is not reference to the previous two seasons.
- jd250

Briere was not comparing and using how hard the team was to play against last year as the basis for why he thinks the team is hard to play against this year.

You are still using the word that annoys you.

There isn’t anything wrong with word itself. It just wasn’t what they seem to think it was.
- NC Flyers Fan

When it comes to the Flyers, there is something wrong with it. They need to stop using that word. They sound like idiots when they do.

You are really reaching, imo. Penguins, Devils, and lightning alone have combined to outscore the Flyers 17-3 in the last 2 weeks. They suck in most metrics. Carter Hart's sv% is .906 whereas last year it was .905.

What about this year screams to you that they aren't an easy 2 points? Or are you going to tell me that the Flyers are the 5th most improved team and that makes them harder to play against?

Hey I hope Briere is the guy but saying stuff like this does not make me trust him. Don't urinate on me and tell me it's raining.
- Flyers_01

Yes, but you have to factor in the let-down the players are going to have when they see one of their best players (TK) injured for a while, plus the trade deadline, plus knowing they are a bad team that is not getting a sniff of the playoffs again, and the fact that the season is winding down. No matter what players say or intend, there is a natural let-down that will happen and I think this is playing largely into what we are seeing with this team now. In the end, the more losses the Flyers pile up, the better chance they have at landing a top-tier player in the draft, so I am certainly not complaining.

Yes, but you have to factor in the let-down the players are going to have when they see one of their best players (TK) injured for a while, plus the trade deadline, plus knowing they are a bad team that is not getting a sniff of the playoffs again, and the fact that the season is winding down. No matter what players say or intend, there is a natural let-down that will happen and I think this is playing largely into what we are seeing with this team now. In the end, the more losses the Flyers pile up, the better chance they have at landing a top-tier player in the draft, so I am certainly not complaining.
- jd250

You either are a hard team to play against or you're not. Regardless of who is in the lineup. The Flyers aren't a hard team to play against and haven't been for the majority of the season.

The Flyers are not a marquee franchise and are no longer viewed that way. They haven't been for a long time.
- MJL

According to Elliott Friedman, there is very high interest in the Flyers President job, and he named a few potential candidates in his 32 thoughts. So apparently the Flyers are not viewed as badly as you claim. Unless of course, you have better sources than Elliott does?

According to Elliott Friedman, there is very high interest in the Flyers President job, and he named a few potential candidates in his 32 thoughts. So apparently the Flyers are not viewed as badly as you claim. Unless of course, you have better sources than Elliott does?
- jd250

Prospective candidates who are either looking for a promotion or are currently outside of the business would have interest in a President of hockey ops position regardless of the current state of the franchise. There aren't many openings of that variety every year. I don't need to have better sources than Friedman to know that.

What is a marquee franchise?

Bill, your feedback on Tyson and Elliot, how did they fare in the NHL, where do you seem them fitting in long term
- wcorvette

Have held their own. Foerster and Desnoyers noth respectively had very solid first games. A few moments in the others. I still see Foerster as a middle six winger who gets PP time and Desnoyers as a Swiss Army knife type who moves around the lineup as needed and can center or play wing.

You either are a hard team to play against or you're not. Regardless of who is in the lineup. The Flyers aren't a hard team to play against and haven't been for the majority of the season.
- MJL

Since you like to use the phrase "modern NHL", what is the definition of being hard to play against in the modern game? Isn't it a team that has high end talent, speed, skill and depth up front, on the backend and in goal? Certainly not a team that can punch your lights out like our favorite Broad Street Bullies teams. So if you agree, the Flyers lack high end talent, foot speed and skill. The Flyers do have depth, I'll give them that, and for once in our lives they look to be set in goal. So though I disagree with you that this year's team is as easy to play against as last year's team, there is no way these Flyers will ever be hard to play against in the modern game until they get that top-end talent in here. How are the Flyers going to do that when they are cap-strapped for years to come and will not be picking in the top 5 of the draft I don't know, unless the ping pong balls cooperate of course.

Have held their own. Foerster and Desnoyers noth respectively had very solid first games. A few moments in the others. I still see Foerster as a middle six winger who gets PP time and Desnoyers as a Swiss Army knife type who moves around the lineup as needed and can center or play wing.
- bmeltzer

I haven't seen much of either player but in limited viewings, it seems to me like Foerster shoots the puck really well.

I haven't seen much of either player but in limited viewings, it seems to me like Foerster shoots the puck really well.
- MJL

Yes, and what I like about Foerster is his size and his skating has very much improved. He has learned to make his own space, which last year he clearly couldn't do.

Since you like to use the phrase "modern NHL", what is the definition of being hard to play against in the modern game? Isn't it a team that has high end talent, speed, skill and depth up front, on the backend and in goal? Certainly not a team that can punch your lights out like our favorite Broad Street Bullies teams. So if you agree, the Flyers lack high end talent, foot speed and skill. The Flyers do have depth, I'll give them that, and for once in our lives they look to be set in goal. So though I disagree with you that this year's team is as easy to play against as last year's team, there is no way these Flyers will ever be hard to play against in the modern game until they get that top-end talent in here. How are the Flyers going to do that when they are cap-strapped for years to come and will not be picking in the top 5 of the draft I don't know, unless the ping pong balls cooperate of course.
- jd250

So then you agree with me that the Flyers are not a hard team to play against. We've cleared that up.

When it comes to the Flyers, there is something wrong with it. They need to stop using that word. They sound like idiots when they do.
- MJL

That’s true but the reason for that is because they seem to be mistaken on what the core of the culture really was.

The Flyers do not need to be the league-leader in penalty minutes, hits, blocked shots to show they are hard to play against. They are not the skilled tough guys of the ‘70. It isn’t that kind of league. Sure, it isn’t wrong to have some throwback players, but it misses the true need to be a competitive, winning team in the modern era. If they complete a full build through the draft, with cap-era success, the new team may find a totally different team-strength emerges. No one should fight against that because of some misunderstanding about what being a Flyer means.

Yes, and what I like about Foerster is his size and his skating has very much improved. He has learned to make his own space, which last year he clearly couldn't do.
- jd250

Doesn't have much size and his skating was adequate.

Prospective candidates who are either looking for a promotion or are currently outside of the business would have interest in a President of hockey ops position regardless of the current state of the franchise. There aren't many openings of that variety every year. I don't need to have better sources than Friedman to know that.

What is a marquee franchise?
- MJL

IMO, a marquee franchise is one that has a large and passionate market, and one that makes the NHL a lot of money when that market is fully engaged. Boston, New York, Montreal, Toronto, Chicago, LA, St. Louis and Philadelphia are all examples of such franchises.

Have held their own. Foerster and Desnoyers noth respectively had very solid first games. A few moments in the others. I still see Foerster as a middle six winger who gets PP time and Desnoyers as a Swiss Army knife type who moves around the lineup as needed and can center or play wing.
- bmeltzer

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does that make someone like Laughton more available for trade, knowing you have Elliot, was impressed with his skating and position.

Does Tyson make anyone expendable to trade?

That’s true but the reason for that is because they seem to be mistaken on what the core of the culture really was.

The Flyers do not need to be the league-leader in penalty minutes, hits, blocked shots to show they are hard to play against. They are not the skilled tough guys of the ‘70. It isn’t that kind of league. Sure, it isn’t wrong to have some throwback players, but it misses the true need to be a competitive, winning team in the modern era. If they complete a full build through the draft, with cap-era success, the new team may find a totally different team-strength emerges. No one should fight against that because of some misunderstanding about what being a Flyer means.
- NC Flyers Fan

The very first thing that has to truly change if real actual change is to occur. Is for the people who are making the decisions to truly change. Just changing the person who is making the decisions is not going to enact real change if the mindset of the organization doesn't change drastically. Much of what Briere said is very concerning. The tone of the press conference as a whole, was not what I wanted to hear.

Doesn't have much size and his skating was adequate.
- MJL

Foerster's skating is much improved from last season, and at 6' 2'', 195lbs has good size for a forward, and will get bigger and stronger still as he develops.

IMO, a marquee franchise is one that has a large and passionate market, and one that makes the NHL a lot of money when that market is fully engaged. Boston, New York, Montreal, Toronto, Chicago, LA, St. Louis and Philadelphia are all examples of such franchises.
- jd250

A fanbase does not make a franchise marquee. The Flyers are no longer a marquee franchise and hasn't been for a while. They're currently an embarrassment to the city and their fanbase.

The very first thing that has to truly change if real actual change is to occur. Is for the people who are making the decisions to truly change. Just changing the person who is making the decisions is not going to enact real change if the mindset of the organization doesn't change drastically. Much of what Briere said is very concerning. The tone of the press conference as a whole, was not what I wanted to hear.
- MJL

Briere has been the Interim-GM for 48 hours, what do you expect him to say exactly? He is not going to throw Fletcher or the old guard under the bus, and he was certainly not going to start calling out players.

Briere has been the Interim-GM for 48 hours, what do you expect him to say exactly? He is not going to throw Fletcher or the old guard under the bus, and he was certainly not going to start calling out players.
- jd250

I actually agree with you

Foerster's skating is much improved from last season, and at 6' 2'', 195lbs has good size for a forward, and will get bigger and stronger still as he develops.
- jd250

He did not look to be that size on the ice to me. His skating is fine but he is not a speedster.

Foerster's skating is much improved from last season, and at 6' 2'', 195lbs has good size for a forward, and will get bigger and stronger still as he develops.
- jd250

He did not look to be that size on the ice to me. His skating is fine but he is not a speedster.