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jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Mar 13 @ 3:40 PM ET
He absolutely could've been far more forthcoming about change and been honest with the fans. The way that the coach has been. He had no issue right away letting us know things were screwed up. Instead, Briere is talking about working with people in place. Not what I want to hear. It's time for a scorched earth policy. Like Flyers 01 said earlier. Don't piss on me and tell me it's raining. Nobody has to be called out specifically to convey that message.
- MJL

Like I said, even if he knew more changes were coming he is not going to say anything to the press before it happens. I think this was nothing more than an introductory press conference and the main message I got from Danny was just let me finish out the season first and then we'll see what happens in the off-season.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 13 @ 3:42 PM ET
Foester will never be a speedster, but he has shown in the last two games to be able to keep up with the game and get to the right spots on the ice in time to actually contribute to plays. Last year, he was behind the play a lot and didn't know how to create space for his shot. He will never be a speedster, but will be an adequate skater for his size. I can see his ceiling as maybe a 2nd line player and with that shot will be a weapon on the PP.
- jd250


if all remember, skating was the biggest knock on Tyson and the reason he fell the way he did in the draft.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 13 @ 3:44 PM ET
They need to come up with two more picks in the first two rounds of this draft. Hopefully another 1st rounder

I agree. Two off seasons

- Just5


Hart can likely get one. Unsure about where the other comes from. I would assume TK or Provorov would get one too. I just dont know who's buying them right now because of how many first rounders went at the deadline. St Louis maybe? Arizona doesn't like hockey players so its a no go. Calgary maybe? They might shake things up.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Mar 13 @ 3:44 PM ET
😁🥁
- THE EVIL WITHIN

Wtf. Lol
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 13 @ 3:45 PM ET
Like I said, even if he knew more changes were coming he is not going to say anything to the press before it happens. I think this was nothing more than an introductory press conference and the main message I got from Danny was just let me finish out the season first and then we'll see what happens in the off-season.
- jd250


He is also interim GM likely wanting the full time job. He won't say anything the team didn't approve of already. He isnt jeopardizing his hiring.

I dont think Briere was being honest to the press. Shocking I know! That a NHL exec would lie to the media.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 3:50 PM ET
TK, provorov, hart.

These are the 3 they need to move this summer to change course here.

- Just5



They should listen on every player but those are the 3 that might get them the highest return.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 3:54 PM ET
Know when "scorched earth" became popular? When Shanahan said it in Toronto. Not the GM. The bigger boss. Dont expect those types of words from an interim GM. The presser was just to placate media and because it had to be done. Don't for one second think that his statement wasn't likely prepared by PR people.
- Aaron_85



The statements I'm referring to were answers to questions in the press conference. Unless he was hand fed the questions that were going to be asked prior. I don't see how the PR staff could've given him prepared answers. His answers were an insight into his mindset and there was much to be concerned about it those answers.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 3:57 PM ET
Like I said, even if he knew more changes were coming he is not going to say anything to the press before it happens. I think this was nothing more than an introductory press conference and the main message I got from Danny was just let me finish out the season first and then we'll see what happens in the off-season.
- jd250



I'm not looking for him to list specific changes that he thinks he is going to make.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

Mar 13 @ 4:02 PM ET
The statements I'm referring to were answers to questions in the press conference. Unless he was hand fed the questions that were going to be asked prior. I don't see how the PR staff could've given him prepared answers. His answers were an insight into his mindset and there was much to be concerned about it those answers.
- MJL


Absolutely those could be canned responses and questions. It wouldn't be the first time.

But my statement still stands. He isnt the guy to say such things to the media. He'd avoid it at every cost because everything was likely prepared.
Pompous
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ruskin, FL
Joined: 02.19.2014

Mar 13 @ 4:02 PM ET
It is laughable to suggest with the level of incompetence of this organization that any fan should give it a rest. Yes, when it's this bad, anything and everything deserves scrutiny. Speaking of a wrinkle in the sheets. That is the bed that they made for themselves.
- MJL


That bed has been there since 1967. You can expect it to be mussed on occasion. That bed has HISTORY!!
And that the disgruntled fans should complain about everything is a right.
Not necessarily sensible though.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 13 @ 4:03 PM ET
So what is the definition of marquee franchise? You can't ask people for it then poop on their definition without offering up your own.
- Aaron_85


IMO a marquee franchise is one that has a strong appeal to players and staff regardless of current standings and recent success. It's usually some combination of the city, team history, arena, amenities, ownership, reputation for treating employees exceptionally well, colors/logo/jerseys, endorsement opportunities, (Original Six) mystique, easy travel, post-career job opps, tax exemptions, etc.

I think the Flyers have a lot of the above going for them but they're really starting to fall short in some aspects. They're probably more of a second-tier team at this point if we're being generous.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 13 @ 4:03 PM ET
They should listen on every player but those are the 3 that might get them the highest return.
- MJL


why would you not?
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Mar 13 @ 4:04 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Quick Hits: Week to Come
- bmeltzer


Meet the new boss, same as the old boss...
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 13 @ 4:05 PM ET
The statements I'm referring to were answers to questions in the press conference. Unless he was hand fed the questions that were going to be asked prior. I don't see how the PR staff could've given him prepared answers. His answers were an insight into his mindset and there was much to be concerned about it those answers.
- MJL


You've said this multiple times now. elaborate. what specifically?
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 13 @ 4:05 PM ET
IMO a marquee franchise is one that has a strong appeal to players and staff regardless of current standings and recent success. It's usually some combination of the city, team history, arena, amenities, ownership, reputation for treating employees exceptionally well, colors/logo/jerseys, endorsement opportunities, (Original Six) mystique, easy travel, post-career job opps, tax exemptions, etc.

I think the Flyers have a lot of the above going for them but they're really starting to fall short in some aspects. They're probably more of a second-tier team at this point if we're being generous.

- Tomahawk


this left with Snider's passing.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 4:07 PM ET
Absolutely those could be canned responses and questions. It wouldn't be the first time.

But my statement still stands. He isnt the guy to say such things to the media. He'd avoid it at every cost because everything was likely prepared.

- Aaron_85


I disagree that he gave prepared answers. I don't believe that other than the short opening statement. It was all him and not prepared.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 13 @ 4:08 PM ET
Absolutely those could be canned responses and questions. It wouldn't be the first time.

But my statement still stands. He isnt the guy to say such things to the media. He'd avoid it at every cost because everything was likely prepared.

- Aaron_85


As the interim GM for 48hr, what did people expect him to say....seriously
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 4:10 PM ET
That bed has been there since 1967. You can expect it to be mussed on occasion. That bed has HISTORY!!
And that the disgruntled fans should complain about everything is a right.
Not necessarily sensible though.

- Pompous


The history is just that. When an organization is as dysfunctional as this one is, you can't and don't deserve to fall back on history. Right now, complaining and looking at every factor is incredibly sensible.
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Mar 13 @ 4:14 PM ET
Will anyone who covers the team ask IGMDB if he was asked for input on the rr extension? Cooter extension? Sanheim extension? the contract offered to ND? He was the special assistant to the special assistant to the regional manager after all
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 13 @ 4:14 PM ET
this left with Snider's passing.
- Peter Richards


I think the slide pre-dates Snider's death.

The salary cap was the beginning of the end.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 4:15 PM ET
Will anyone who covers the team ask IGMDB if he was asked for input on the rr extension? Cooter extension? Sanheim extension? the contract offered to ND? He was the special assistant to the special assistant to the regional manager after all
- corduroy


I wouldn't hire anyone who agreed with the Ristolainen trade or the Deslauriers signing. Those players are an example of the Flyers thinking about what it means to be hard to play against.
landros 2
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Centre of universe
Joined: 02.07.2007

Mar 13 @ 4:16 PM ET
I think the slide pre-dates Snider's death.

The salary cap was the beginning of the end.

- Tomahawk


To me it was Prongers eye injury.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 13 @ 4:16 PM ET
I think the slide pre-dates Snider's death.

The salary cap was the beginning of the end.

- Tomahawk


Yes, early in the cap, the Flyers were still able to work their way around it but once it evolved and teams became more proficient in it. That all went away.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Mar 13 @ 4:16 PM ET
As the interim GM for 48hr, what did people expect him to say....seriously
- Peter Richards


Funny how many times he said the numbers 48 in the presser.


Pompous
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ruskin, FL
Joined: 02.19.2014

Mar 13 @ 4:18 PM ET
The same group picked two successive GMs who were fired. I say it is well past time to fire the hirers. We need a new group picking the next GM. Good luck to Danny in the competition.
- iamscore2day


I remarked about this the other day.
A MEGA corpseration (sic) owns them.
If we want this team to regain a proper stance, to form a desirable culture, a soulless set of bosses may not be the venue that will work.
When those bosses leave, they won't be interested in having left a 'heritage', a legacy.
Now if they can return the Flyers to economic relevance, and they get bonuses, we might see a little more dedication.
This is not a team to bean counters, it is a division of a subsidiary of an independent division of a massive organization...and a minor part at that.
This does not mean they won't do the job, but they may be less involved and not worry on weekends about it. Unlike Snider.
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