I remember being in here week 2 weeks ago and got raked over the coals for saying Briere is our next GM and should be way better than Chuck because he had at least played the game, and fairly recently at that.

Are we all still sooooo sure now Briere cant be a good GM? Or are some of you suddenly clinging to the idea he might because you don't want to continue to be black-pilled and depressed for another 5+ years?

Let me guess: the tune will now be "Well maybe Briere could do alright, but nothings gonna change until he fires Torts."

And how is Briere going to get these draft picks from other teams? Unless the Flyers are trading Hart, Provorov or TK, I don't see any way Briere can get more 1st or 2nd round picks in this draft.
- jd250

I think you answered your own question.

I don't know how he will do as a GM. But he's no one's pushover.
- bmeltzer

I do. He's gonna be awesome.

And how is Briere going to get these draft picks from other teams? Unless the Flyers are trading Hart, Provorov or TK, I don't see any way Briere can get more 1st or 2nd round picks in this draft.
- jd250

I'm thinking that Hart and Provorov are legit trade candidates. I doubt they part with TK unless they are totally bowled over by an offer.

It doesn't matter IMO, no one is stopping the Bruins right now. It would take a massive choke by the Bruins to not at least reach the finals.
- jd250

We've seen this story before. Teams have the perfect regular season and nothing can go wrong, and then they go belly up in the playoffs. The President Cup winners rarely win the Stanley Cup. The Bruins have been the best team by a long shot this season obviously, but we all know that the Stanley Cup playoffs are always full of surprises. Goalies get hot....injuries...etc.

Flyers need some players to really play well down the stretch, Farabee, Laughton, Hart Provy and Hayes, just to have a chance to get value back in a trade.

Then you have the Tippetts and Frosts of the team, who need to play well to go into the off-season with some confidence.

They have one goal in their last 3 games so... they probably don't want to lose their leading scorer. They are already without Patches. The air is coming out of their balloon in a hurry.
- Phillywhiteout

LOL. So look at the last 3 games and ignore the rest of the season? Losing a top player for any team is a big blow at this time of year but they are still a very good team. Likely wouldn't be able to beat Boston even if fully healthy.

And how is Briere going to get these draft picks from other teams? Unless the Flyers are trading Hart, Provorov or TK, I don't see any way Briere can get more 1st or 2nd round picks in this draft.
- jd250

Well, that is how it would happen.

If they are smart they will see that the timeline for the rebuild and the timeline for resigning all three of these players to BIGGER contracts in the future don't line up.

I am not saying it WILL happen, just saying it should. Briere should also try to find some way to deal Hayes, Sanheim, Ristolainen, and Scott Laughton for the same reasons.

It wont happen all at once. I think Sanheim is untradeable unless he has a bounce back year next season and they can move him NEXT off season.

LOL. So look at the last 3 games and ignore the rest of the season? Losing a top player for any team is a big blow at this time of year but they are still a very good team. Likely wouldn't be able to beat Boston even if fully healthy.
- MJL

Not ignoring the rest of the season, but they have admitted themselves that they need more scoring. That's why they went out and got Patches. And many pundits feel like they should have done more to upgrade their scoring at the trade deadline.

I remember being in here week 2 weeks ago and got raked over the coals for saying Briere is our next GM and should be way better than Chuck because he had at least played the game, and fairly recently at that.

Are we all still sooooo sure now Briere cant be a good GM? Or are some of you suddenly clinging to the idea he might because you don't want to continue to be black-pilled and depressed for another 5+ years?

Let me guess: the tune will now be "Well maybe Briere could do alright, but nothings gonna change until he fires Torts."
- mochoson

Two things. One it was widely speculated, and this board was talking about Briere taking over for Fletcher for a long time. Well before two weeks ago. Secondly, why does playing the game automatically make someone a good GM? It's two completely different things. Mike Milbury played the game and he was an awful GM.

Well, that is how it would happen.

If they are smart they will see that the timeline for the rebuild and the timeline for resigning all three of these players to BIGGER contracts in the future don't line up.

I am not saying it WILL happen, just saying it should. Briere should also try to find some way to deal Hayes, Sanheim, Ristolainen, and Scott Laughton for the same reasons.

It wont happen all at once. I think Sanheim is untradeable unless he has a bounce back year next season and they can move him NEXT off season.
- MBFlyerfan

Totally agree, and I do think a lot of players will be shopped at the draft.

I do. He's gonna be awesome.
- mochoson

Based on what?

We've seen this story before. Teams have the perfect regular season and nothing can go wrong, and then they go belly up in the playoffs. The President Cup winners rarely win the Stanley Cup. The Bruins have been the best team by a long shot this season obviously, but we all know that the Stanley Cup playoffs are always full of surprises. Goalies get hot....injuries...etc.
- Phillywhiteout

That's all true but the Bruins aren't just having a good season and winning the President's trophy. They're having an historic season.

Not ignoring the rest of the season, but they have admitted themselves that they need more scoring. That's why they went out and got Patches. And many pundits feel like they should have done more to upgrade their scoring at the trade deadline.
- Phillywhiteout

Every playoff team looks to add heading into the playoffs. The Canes are one of the better offensive teams in the league. No team can afford to lose one of their top players. What happens if Boston loses Bergeron? How has losing Landeskog affected Colorado?

Not ignoring the rest of the season, but they have admitted themselves that they need more scoring. That's why they went out and got Patches. And many pundits feel like they should have done more to upgrade their scoring at the trade deadline.
- Phillywhiteout

Older player coming off major injury, gets hurt again. Shocking. They didn’t add at the deadline, and then they lose a key forward.

Older player coming off major injury, gets hurt again. Shocking. They didn’t add at the deadline, and then they lose a key forward.
- ClaudeFather

They did add during the deadline. They added Gostisbehere.

They did add during the deadline. They added Gostisbehere.
- MJL

They didn’t add any significant forwards

They didn’t add any significant forwards
- ClaudeFather

They didn't but they did add to their offense. If Svechnikov is out for the season, that's a significant blow to their hopes.

They did add during the deadline. They added Gostisbehere.
- MJL

They didn't but they did add to their offense. If Svechnikov is out for the season, that's a significant blow to their hopes.
- MJL

No one expects to go into playoffs fully healthy, GM didn’t help the forward group and his gamble to do so in the off season didn’t pay off. Never easy to lose a top forward but the GM didn’t do anything to help. They have a better chance at consistency than most of these other teams moving forward but to “write off” a season they’ve had because of one forward is pretty bad. Same old story for them, can’t get it done in the playoffs.

I'm thinking that Hart and Provorov are legit trade candidates. I doubt they part with TK unless they are totally bowled over by an offer.
- Phillywhiteout

TK is a UFA in two years, just like Provorov. If one is available for trade because the Flyers are soft tanking for at least the next two seasons, then they should both be available.

Hart will need an extension in one year, and I would rather trade him than overpay him. I'm sure his camp would be looking for 8 x 8.

Well, that is how it would happen.

If they are smart they will see that the timeline for the rebuild and the timeline for resigning all three of these players to BIGGER contracts in the future don't line up.

I am not saying it WILL happen, just saying it should. Briere should also try to find some way to deal Hayes, Sanheim, Ristolainen, and Scott Laughton for the same reasons.

It wont happen all at once. I think Sanheim is untradeable unless he has a bounce back year next season and they can move him NEXT off season.
- MBFlyerfan

I think it would be a big mistake to trade Hart. The Flyers for the first time in forever (OK, I admit it, I like this song) are set in goal with Hart and Ersson. I would not break up the one strong part of the team for draft picks. I don't want to trade TK either, because I think he can be a leader on this team moving forward, in the mold of a Dave Poulin or Mike Richards. If I have to trade a good player, I guess it has to be Provorov, but to be clear, the Flyers have no one on the team or in their system to replace him. I think the Flyers will get little back for Sanheim, Hayes or Risto, other than cap relief. Laughton would net a good return also.

No one expects to go into playoffs fully healthy, GM didn’t help the forward group and his gamble to do so in the off season didn’t pay off. Never easy to lose a top forward but the GM didn’t do anything to help. They have a better chance at consistency than most of these other teams moving forward but to “write off” a season they’ve had because of one forward is pretty bad. Same old story for them, can’t get it done in the playoffs.
- ClaudeFather

That's false that the GM didn't do anything to help. How have they "written off" the season and don't the games actually have to be played first before you determine that they can't get it done?

That's false that the GM didn't do anything to help. How have they "written off" the season and don't the games actually have to be played first before you determine that they can't get it done?
- MJL

Obviously the games have to be played, talk to you in about a month and we can revisit this.

I think it would be a big mistake to trade Hart. The Flyers for the first time in forever (OK, I admit it, I like this song) are set in goal with Hart and Ersson. I would not break up the one strong part of the team for draft picks. I don't want to trade TK either, because I think he can be a leader on this team moving forward, in the mold of a Dave Poulin or Mike Richards. If I have to trade a good player, I guess it has to be Provorov, but to be clear, the Flyers have no one on the team or in their system to replace him. I think the Flyers will get little back for Sanheim, Hayes or Risto, other than cap relief. Laughton would net a good return also.
- jd250

What good is having strong goaltending if the rest of the team isn't good enough? It wouldn't be a mistake. The Flyers have to add draft capital to get out of this. They've traded away too many picks. The only way to add draft capital is to trade for it at this point.