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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Mar 16 @ 9:26 PM ET
The thing is the Sabres haven’t viewed him as a “depth player” this season.
- sbroads24


I realize we disagree frequently, but you're hitting it tonight.

I think Sabres think mitts is core IMO.

I'm expecting a multi year extension this offseason

Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Mar 16 @ 9:29 PM ET
Well they’d have to anyways if they’re moving out 8 mil in salary.

Mitts is the guy who’s moved around the whole lineup, and unless people think Quinn and JJ will never struggle again at 20/21 years old, they will need another skill guy who can play a role offensively

- sbroads24


There will always be Ben Bishops available. Until ownership actually invests in the organization, I'm skeptical
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 16 @ 9:30 PM ET
I realize we disagree frequently, but you're hitting it tonight.

I think Sabres think mitts is core IMO.

I'm expecting a multi year extension this offseason

- Boss34

I think he’s as close to a core guy without being one as there is.

They value him.

People just made up their minds about him two years ago so whatever the path to trading him is, that’s how they will think.

I am like that with certain players too
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Mar 16 @ 9:30 PM ET
He’s firmly been deployed as a top 6 forward and has been on the PP the entire year.

I think this is just boiling down to you not liking him so you want him traded. Because early in the year he was apparently a liability therefore they needed to get rid of him. Now he’s too good to be a 3rd liner therefore he and his agent will want the trade? You’re just finding any reason now.

Which is fine, I’m finding reasons for him to stay.

- sbroads24


I have no issue with him. I grill the Mitts-VO duo for obvious reason, but you wouldn't have to look too far to find me suggesting VO was the issue.

This is all about reading the situation, with 4 KA 1st rounders coming + Quinn and JJ already here. I also don't think Mitts is ready to accept a bottom 6 roll and the contract that goes along with that.

If they suddenly change course, and extend Mitts + move multiple prospects out, I won't have a problem with it. With everything they've done and said, it would surprise me.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Mar 16 @ 9:33 PM ET
There will always be Ben Bishops available
- Hank Balling


Obviously the Sabres are a cap budget team, but they just handed out some nice core contracts to tage, samuelsson and cozens.

I'm expecting more mid to long term deals. Paying the established core pieces moving forward. Anti-botts

Adding bush, stillman, clagues.... and keep hoarding 1st and 2nd rounders....

Sign our own, make shrewd trades, sign cheap plugs and collect and slow roll prospects.

Avoid college players....
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Mar 16 @ 9:34 PM ET
I have no issue with him. I grill the Mitts-VO duo for obvious reason, but you wouldn't have to look too far to find me suggesting VO was the issue.

This is all about reading the situation, with 4 KA 1st rounders coming + Quinn and VO already here. I also don't think Mitts is ready to accept a bottom 6 roll and the contract that goes along with that.

If they suddenly change course, and extend Mitts + move multiple prospects out, I won't have a problem with it. With everything they've done and said, it would surprise me.

- Lunaion


That's the crux of the matter. They have one prime piece coming to a lacking defense versus 4 prime pieces coming to a full forward lineup
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 16 @ 9:35 PM ET
I have no issue with him. I grill the Mitts-VO duo for obvious reason, but you wouldn't have to look too far to find me suggesting VO was the issue.

This is all about reading the situation, with 4 KA 1st rounders coming + Quinn and VO already here. I also don't think Mitts is ready to accept a bottom 6 roll and the contract that goes along with that.

If they suddenly change course, and extend Mitts + move multiple prospects out, I won't have a problem with it. With everything they've done and said, it would surprise me.

- Lunaion

I honestly have no idea how he personally feels but I don’t think we’re at that point yet. Still has two years of team control and he’s getting good ice time.

If it were 365 days from now in this exact same situation, I’d probably agree with you
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Mar 16 @ 9:36 PM ET
I think he’s as close to a core guy without being one as there is.

They value him.

People just made up their minds about him two years ago so whatever the path to trading him is, that’s how they will think.

I am like that with certain players too

- sbroads24


Agree, couple solid points.

I've flipped flopped on him.

Mitts has a relentless type approach to the game. Seems like a guy, the coach would pound the table for.

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 16 @ 9:40 PM ET
running back market drying up

maybe singletary comes back for 2.5 or 3 per on a 2 year deal tomorrow

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Mar 16 @ 9:41 PM ET
I have no issue with him. I grill the Mitts-VO duo for obvious reason, but you wouldn't have to look too far to find me suggesting VO was the issue.

This is all about reading the situation, with 4 KA 1st rounders coming + Quinn and JJ already here. I also don't think Mitts is ready to accept a bottom 6 roll and the contract that goes along with that.

If they suddenly change course, and extend Mitts + move multiple prospects out, I won't have a problem with it. With everything they've done and said, it would surprise me.

- Lunaion


Do you feel like mitts is selfishly different in not accepting the 3rd line role?
Or is it more of a points/ contract comparison , not so much the player. Not be happy as a 3rd liner....
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Mar 16 @ 9:41 PM ET
I honestly have no idea how he personally feels but I don’t think we’re at that point yet. Still has two years of team control and he’s getting good ice time.

If it were 365 days from now in this exact same situation, I’d probably agree with you

- sbroads24


They can, and probably will, kick the can another year. I know never to bet on KA actively making moves when he doesn't need to. If a good opportunity presents itself, timing is good to take it this summer.

It's a contract year. I do think his role next year is significant. If the kept him with Cozens for the rest of the year, I'd have a different feeling. As a 3LW, the days just feel numbered.
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Mar 16 @ 9:44 PM ET
running back market drying up

maybe singletary comes back for 2.5 or 3 per on a 2 year deal tomorrow

- homiedclown


Do we want him back? I'm worried McD would over rely on him rather than hand the reins to Cook

Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 16 @ 9:45 PM ET
Skinner Tage Tuch
Kulich Cozens Quinn
JJ Krebs Savoie
Nadeau ? Rousek
Can Mitts take 3C and that drops Krebs to 4C. Gonna get very interesting in 2yrs.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Mar 16 @ 9:45 PM ET
running back market drying up

maybe singletary comes back for 2.5 or 3 per on a 2 year deal tomorrow

- homiedclown


Beane likes to let these guys see their value and catch them on the rebound.

Singletary has quietly been a good football player.

Sounds like the Bill's are gonna lean on Hynes next season. Obviously cook as well.

My guess, another 3rd round rb in the draft.
Although resigning Singletary would be ok , pretty durable guy... good teammate...
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 16 @ 9:46 PM ET
Do we want him back? I'm worried McD would over rely on him rather than hand the reins to Cook
- Hank Balling

RB:
Damien Harris
Kareen Hunt
Ezekiel Elliott
D'Ernest Johnson
Leonard Fournette
Devin Singletary
Jerrick McKinnon

I like him over other options
Hank Balling
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.18.2021

Mar 16 @ 9:47 PM ET
RB:
Damien Harris
Kareen Hunt
Ezekiel Elliott
D'Ernest Johnson
Leonard Fournette
Devin Singletary
Jerrick McKinnon

I like him over other options

- homiedclown


Fair. I wouldn't mind if they went with Cook/Hines and brought in a UDFA thumper
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 16 @ 9:47 PM ET
Beane likes to let these guys see their value and catch them on the rebound.

Singletary has quietly been a good football player.

Sounds like the Bill's are gonna lean on Hynes next season. Obviously cook as well.

My guess, another 3rd round rb in the draft.
Although resigning Singletary would be ok , pretty durable guy... good teammate...

- Boss34

the zac moss experiment makes me rather bring back motor and use that third on a lineman
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 16 @ 9:48 PM ET
They can, and probably will, kick the can another year. I know never to bet on KA actively making moves when he doesn't need to. If a good opportunity presents itself, timing is good to take it this summer.

It's a contract year. I do think his role next year is significant. If the kept him with Cozens for the rest of the year, I'd have a different feeling. As a 3LW, the days just feel numbered.

- Lunaion

It’s hard to read what KA will do this summer

Granato on GR yesterday talked about how they are an offensive team and scoring is what they focus on and that they value scoring the first goal in every game they play.

So they might want to make sure they have a ton of depth at forward and as much offense as possible.

They also might value his draft picks sooner than I expect and he’s moved. Just hard to tell
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 16 @ 9:50 PM ET
Fair. I wouldn't mind if they went with Cook/Hines and brought in a UDFA thumper
- Hank Balling

ronald jones moves the needle a little IMO if they went there on the cheap
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Mar 16 @ 9:51 PM ET
Do you feel like mitts is selfishly different in not accepting the 3rd line role?
Or is it more of a points/ contract comparison , not so much the player. Not be happy as a 3rd liner....

- Boss34


I think he should want a better opportunity and could find that somewhere else. Not an indictment on him at all.
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 16 @ 9:51 PM ET
running back market drying up

maybe singletary comes back for 2.5 or 3 per on a 2 year deal tomorrow

- homiedclown

I’d much rather resign Singletary then sign Zeke, trade for Dalvin or draft Robinson.

They need to let Cook be the #1 and get him involved in the pass game
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 16 @ 9:51 PM ET
It’s hard to read what KA will do this summer

Granato on GR yesterday talked about how they are an offensive team and scoring is what they focus on and that they value scoring the first goal in every game they play.

So they might want to make sure they have a ton of depth at forward and as much offense as possible.

They also might value his draft picks sooner than I expect and he’s moved. Just hard to tell

- sbroads24

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Mar 16 @ 9:52 PM ET
They can, and probably will, kick the can another year. I know never to bet on KA actively making moves when he doesn't need to. If a good opportunity presents itself, timing is good to take it this summer.

It's a contract year. I do think his role next year is significant. If the kept him with Cozens for the rest of the year, I'd have a different feeling. As a 3LW, the days just feel numbered.

- Lunaion



Were talking contracts

How could you say kyvynv is a can kicker in regards to contracts?

Exact opposite in regards to samuelsson, tage and cozens.

The guy is making some really good decisions. IMO

Emp43
Wetbandit1
Vegas Golden Knights
Location: Unpopular opinion (i think): The best Die Hard movie is the 4th one- Live free or Die Hard -jdfitz7, NY
Joined: 10.07.2010

Mar 16 @ 9:53 PM ET
It’s hard to read what KA will do this summer

Granato on GR yesterday talked about how they are an offensive team and scoring is what they focus on and that they value scoring the first goal in every game they play.

So they might want to make sure they have a ton of depth at forward and as much offense as possible.

They also might value his draft picks sooner than I expect and he’s moved. Just hard to tell

- sbroads24


homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 16 @ 9:55 PM ET
Biro

50 points in 47 games

no call up

Weissbach and Rousek having solid years as well
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