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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Mar 17 @ 9:29 AM ET
Hmph.... the thread has come to posts about the roster two seasons from now. Hockey Heaven.

In the words of Space Balls:

"When will then be now?"

- lacaprup

SOON!
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Mar 17 @ 9:32 AM ET
So it's 2024-25 Season Give me your Roster purely on Draft Picks or current roster players:
Skinner Tage Tuch
Kulich Cozens Quinn
JJ Krebs Savoie
Nadeau Jost Rousek
Ostlund has 2yrs left on his contract, I would expect him at 3C and drop Krebs to 4C at the proper time

Samuelsson Dahlin Goalies: Levi, UPL
Power Reinbacher
Johnson Joker

- Buff36


There better be a few older Offensive minded FA signings on this team. Pat Kane, Corey Perry type players. Now is the time to Murray the team...
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 17 @ 9:32 AM ET
[quote=The_Inkwell]
Sabres have a lot of forward prospects, and a very young team already. They really don't have a lot of open spots. Adams can definitely use the that to fill other needs. They really need to address there D depth throughout there system.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 17 @ 9:34 AM ET
There better be a few older Offensive minded FA signings on this team. Pat Kane, Corey Perry type players. Now is the time to Murray the team...
- hehateme

I just used drafted or roster players
QuinnFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Formerly Visionville, Now Purgatory
Joined: 07.29.2021

Mar 17 @ 9:37 AM ET
$3m cheap? Good riddance
- TheHank


Doubt he gets $3M here or anywhere else. 2x2 or 2mx1yr is fine though.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Mar 17 @ 9:38 AM ET
I just used drafted or roster players
- Buff36


I really think now is the time to trade some of the prospect and picks away, we are right on the cusp of greatness. Goalie and top 4 D, and we are a dominate team.

Got to use some of the Murrancy and Murray this team in the summer....
JCSabs06
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Edge...The only people who really know where it is have gone over
Joined: 09.06.2012

Mar 17 @ 9:46 AM ET
I really think now is the time to trade some of the prospect and picks away, we are right on the cusp of greatness. Goalie and top 4 D, and we are a dominate team.

Got to use some of the Murrancy and Murray this team in the summer....

- hehateme


Flyers fan buddy was asking me if I'd do hart and provorov for 1st. savoie, quinn? and another poop picks or something?

Not sure I'd say no. I don't think KA would say yes, but I might if you catch me on the right night. Maybe I'd try and wiggle into ostlund from either savoie or quinn but I think it addresses our needs and theirs from a position of strength of ours. Would probably also not want to give up this years first if possible and if there was a way to get konecny in there I'd be pleased with that. Potentially giving up this years first if he was added.
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Mar 17 @ 9:48 AM ET
Doubt he gets $3M here or anywhere else. 2x2 or 2mx1yr is fine though.
- QuinnFan


$2.25M qualifying offer is due.

Are they qualifying him at that number on a one year deal?

https://www.capfriendly.com/players/tyson-jost
kingcong39
Buffalo Sabres
Location: albany, NY
Joined: 02.21.2007

Mar 17 @ 9:50 AM ET
Flyers fan buddy was asking me if I'd do hart and provorov for 1st. savoie, quinn? and another poop picks or something?

Not sure I'd say no. I don't think KA would say yes, but I might if you catch me on the right night. Maybe I'd try and wiggle into ostlund from either savoie or quinn but I think it addresses our needs and theirs from a position of strength of ours. Would probably also not want to give up this years first if possible and if there was a way to get konecny in there I'd be pleased with that. Potentially giving up this years first if he was added.

- JCSabs06


For clarity, is the potential deal Hart and Provorov for the 23 1st, Savoie, and Quinn?
dadeadhead
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I don't want to say Greztky was a dude when I was watching. Mentalorgasm5 , NY
Joined: 07.16.2006

Mar 17 @ 9:51 AM ET
Flyers fan buddy was asking me if I'd do hart and provorov for 1st. savoie, quinn? and another poop picks or something?

Not sure I'd say no. I don't think KA would say yes, but I might if you catch me on the right night. Maybe I'd try and wiggle into ostlund from either savoie or quinn but I think it addresses our needs and theirs from a position of strength of ours. Would probably also not want to give up this years first if possible and if there was a way to get konecny in there I'd be pleased with that. Potentially giving up this years first if he was added.

- JCSabs06



Savoie and Quinn are untouchables in 99% of trade convos.

That .01% is the McDavids of the world and Edmonton isn’t taking offers on him.
Ratsreign
Florida Panthers
Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL
Joined: 10.27.2017

Mar 17 @ 9:59 AM ET
They waved it early when the Sens d man buried the Avs player a few strides in the Avs blue line when he was trying to play the puck. Which is the correct call.

Dunno why they didn’t blow the whistle though.

- Stripes77


Yes, I’ve since seen a better replay than I saw at first. I thought puck went straight to the goalie, not off back boards and then to the goalie. Why didn’t the goalie just hold on to the puck until the whistle finally was blown is all I’m wondering. Strange play.
jochfr
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Nashville , TN
Joined: 07.11.2009

Mar 17 @ 9:59 AM ET
For clarity, is the potential deal Hart and Provorov for the 23 1st, Savoie, and Quinn?
- kingcong39

If that is the case i will beat someone with a bat.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 17 @ 10:00 AM ET
I just used drafted or roster players
- Buff36


a cool part about drafting well is that you can trade complimentary players for more suitable complimentary players that are worth more than the draft picks than you acquired those complimentary players for.
ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY
Joined: 11.04.2010

Mar 17 @ 10:00 AM ET
For clarity, is the potential deal Hart and Provorov for the 23 1st, Savoie, and Quinn?
- kingcong39

Gross.

Provorov is not great.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 17 @ 10:01 AM ET
Savoie and Quinn are untouchables in 99% of trade convos.

That .01% is the McDavids of the world and Edmonton isn’t taking offers on him.

- dadeadhead


feel like ive beaten this one to death.

Guys like and specifically Savoie and Kulich won't be traded for anyone publicly on the market.

Let's all keep in mind that Chychrun is not good enough to be swapped for Kulich nor Savoie.

Who else at the TDL was a better overall fit for this team?

Talent + Position + Term + Cap was below the requirement.

My guess, if those guys are shipped out, you get someone like.. oh I dunno... Adam Fox or Matt Tkachuk. Which you won't. So the convo is moot.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 17 @ 10:02 AM ET
For clarity, is the potential deal Hart and Provorov for the 23 1st, Savoie, and Quinn?
- kingcong39


lol wut
JCSabs06
Buffalo Sabres
Location: The Edge...The only people who really know where it is have gone over
Joined: 09.06.2012

Mar 17 @ 10:03 AM ET
For clarity, is the potential deal Hart and Provorov for the 23 1st, Savoie, and Quinn?
- kingcong39


That it is. I'd probably make an effort to make that a 24 1st overall. Briere has some extra time as he's just starting this rebuild anyways.

My thoughts are Hart can be a workhorse goalie and give the team a chance to win nightly.
hehateme
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 04.11.2017

Mar 17 @ 10:06 AM ET
Flyers fan buddy was asking me if I'd do hart and provorov for 1st. savoie, quinn? and another poop picks or something?

Not sure I'd say no. I don't think KA would say yes, but I might if you catch me on the right night. Maybe I'd try and wiggle into ostlund from either savoie or quinn but I think it addresses our needs and theirs from a position of strength of ours. Would probably also not want to give up this years first if possible and if there was a way to get konecny in there I'd be pleased with that. Potentially giving up this years first if he was added.

- JCSabs06


i dont think I am ready to give away Quinn and Savoie,

I love the idea if getting Hart even for a few years until levi is ready and Provorov would be a solid Top 4 guy for us.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 17 @ 10:06 AM ET
Flyers fan buddy was asking me if I'd do hart and provorov for 1st. savoie, quinn? and another poop picks or something?

Not sure I'd say no. I don't think KA would say yes, but I might if you catch me on the right night. Maybe I'd try and wiggle into ostlund from either savoie or quinn but I think it addresses our needs and theirs from a position of strength of ours. Would probably also not want to give up this years first if possible and if there was a way to get konecny in there I'd be pleased with that. Potentially giving up this years first if he was added.

- JCSabs06

So you would trade all that for 2yrs and 6.75m of Provorov and a ? Goalie but people say trading that for 2yrs of Chychrun at 4.7m who is the better player was a bad idea. Interesting
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 17 @ 10:07 AM ET
Flyers fan buddy was asking me if I'd do hart and provorov for 1st. savoie, quinn? and another poop picks or something?

Not sure I'd say no. I don't think KA would say yes, but I might if you catch me on the right night. Maybe I'd try and wiggle into ostlund from either savoie or quinn but I think it addresses our needs and theirs from a position of strength of ours. Would probably also not want to give up this years first if possible and if there was a way to get konecny in there I'd be pleased with that. Potentially giving up this years first if he was added.

- JCSabs06

I think Quinn is becoming a build around piece as each game goes by.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Mar 17 @ 10:08 AM ET
a cool part about drafting well is that you can trade complimentary players for more suitable complimentary players that are worth more than the draft picks than you acquired those complimentary players for.
- TheSabresTaco

Sure, but you gotta be willing to do it
sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY
Joined: 02.12.2012

Mar 17 @ 10:08 AM ET
feel like ive beaten this one to death.

Guys like and specifically Savoie and Kulich won't be traded for anyone publicly on the market.

Let's all keep in mind that Chychrun is not good enough to be swapped for Kulich nor Savoie.

Who else at the TDL was a better overall fit for this team?

Talent + Position + Term + Cap was below the requirement.

My guess, if those guys are shipped out, you get someone like.. oh I dunno... Adam Fox or Matt Tkachuk. Which you won't. So the convo is moot.

- TheSabresTaco

I would’ve moved Savoie for an extended Meier in a heartbeat
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Mar 17 @ 10:09 AM ET
That it is. I'd probably make an effort to make that a 24 1st overall. Briere has some extra time as he's just starting this rebuild anyways.

My thoughts are Hart can be a workhorse goalie and give the team a chance to win nightly.

- JCSabs06

korpisalo costs us zero assets

pretty much same goalie as hart
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 17 @ 10:10 AM ET
While there's no doubt that 22-23 John Tortorella coached Carter Hart would have the Sabres in the playoffs, the long term impact of June's 1st, Matt Savoie and Jack Quinn will provide a significantly larger positive impact for the Sabres than those two on a yearly basis.

That's even if that 1st is Jack Skille.
TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres
Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY
Joined: 05.05.2011

Mar 17 @ 10:11 AM ET
korpisalo costs us zero assets

pretty much same goalie as hart

- homiedclown


I don't even like Korps that much but I'm taking him 10/10 over what Hart costs in supposed assets.

Freddie Andersen 23-24 thanks
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