I’ve said my piece. “Despite” what I think

This goes back far longer than two years
- ClaudeFather

It goes DIRECTLY back to the day hexy was fired. They were on a path. Right or wrong. They changed course. The results are fact that they chose wrong. And will be paying the price for a long time. The debate is what could’ve happened had hexy NOT been fired and what course would he have taken.

Best guy in the locker room to me would be the guy who is in charge of the music and gets me a cold beer after the game.

- Flybynight88

That's probably what Hayes does.

My fear for philly is seeing these young guys have some talent
Hart
York
Bee
Top
Frosty
Cutter
Trees
Etc the really young guys

They rid of Say some older players like
Provy
Hayes
Maybe tk
Etc. free up cap space.

We I think can all assume they are gonna try to some extent move some player. How many or who is debatable but some


My fear is the following moves…… what comes after?

That is the exact position Buffalo was in with Murray. They tried to rush the rebuild and traded high picks and players to go for playoffs. Failed miserable and led to dysfunction for 3-5 years.

What do you think philly is gonna do? Because I have zero faith they will make the necessary moves ridding of the older players again who or how many we shall see and actually continuing to rebuild.

My fear is they see talent of our young guys now and decide to try to retool. It WILL fail.

I point out the lazy narrative of buffalo picking high end as excuse for not building even if takes long time because when I see it used like bill did it’s false. And gives those seeking a plan or direction with what really happened.
- SMS4016

This makes sense -- as long as the alumni have offices in Voorhees I do not think they will do the right thing

I'm looking forward to the off season moves of the team
- Aaron_85

absolutely

Best guy in the locker room to me would be the guy who is in charge of the music and gets me a cold beer after the game.

- Flybynight88

For me it would be the guy that warns me not to let Carson Briere help me down a flight of stairs.

Blackhawks won't be wearing pride jerseys either
Just FYI

But provy got all the crap for his freedom of choice

I agree that Florida is not a good defensive team and their goaltending last night was pedestrian. Still have to be encouraged by the play of many young players last night. They carried the team in that game.
- MJL

Back to back for Florida.

Trade goalies and the scores reversed or worse

It goes DIRECTLY back to the day hexy was fired. They were on a path. Right or wrong. They changed course. The results are fact that they chose wrong. And will be paying the price for a long time. The debate is what could’ve happened had hexy NOT been fired and what course would he have taken.
- SMS4016

Take your CAPS and shove it buddy. Not sure why you think you know any context in any situation because you clearly don’t

Not sure if it was common knowledge but I know it was mentioned TK did a lot of studying in the off-season on his game and the one who was working with him was Briere

Back to back for Florida.

Trade goalies and the scores reversed or worse
- Just5

That has to be taken into consideration but it doesn't change how well numerous young players played in the game for the Flyers.

Blackhawks won't be wearing pride jerseys either
Just FYI

But provy got all the crap for his freedom of choice
- Bob Habib

Provorov gets crap for not wearing a pride jersey even though so many teams have followed suit and gets judged for not playing right side in favor of York, even though not many defensemen switch sides. Provorov is no Lidstrom but I’m almost positive Lidstrom never saw RD in his career.

Take your CAPS and shove it buddy. Not sure why you think you know any context in any situation because you clearly don’t
- ClaudeFather

Always context. I love context. The context of longer than 2 years. Pretty sure anyone rational can look at philly and easily say longer than 27
Years. No matter the context

Provorov gets crap for not wearing a pride jersey even though so many teams have followed suit and gets judged for not playing right side in favor of York, even though not many defensemen switch sides. Provorov is no Lidstrom but I’m almost positive Lidstrom never saw RD in his career.
- SuperSchennBros

I don’t know about that. I know he was paired with Coffey from the early to mid 90s and both were LHS. Likely he played his off side sometimes. Murphy and Rafalski were RHS so he was on LD with them. Usually D men switch sides on the PP so their forehand is toward center. As a general rule it’s usually higher skilled D men that can adapt to their off side. I remember Nisky playing his offside with the Pens.

I don’t know about that. I know he was paired with Coffey from the early to mid 90s and both were LHS. Likely he played his off side sometimes. Murphy and Rafalski were RHS so he was on LD with them. Usually D men switch sides on the PP so their forehand is toward center. As a general rule it’s usually higher skilled D men that can adapt to their off side. I remember Nisky playing his offside with the Pens.
- Minnyhock

When you’re as good as lindstrom… you can play wherever you’d like

For me it would be the guy that warns me not to let Carson Briere help me down a flight of stairs.
- Minnyhock

Lmao! Almost spit out my beer!

When you’re as good as lindstrom… you can play wherever you’d like
- SMS4016

If you were to select an all time starting six- you could easily go Lidstrom LD and Orr RD.

Lmao! Almost spit out my beer!
- Don Nachbaur

Don, I hope you’re drinking a craft beer. Cheers.

Don, I hope you’re drinking a craft beer. Cheers.
- Minnyhock

Lol yes! Evil Genius - Purple Monkey Dishwasher! Good stuff!

Lol yes! Evil Genius - Purple Monkey Dishwasher! Good stuff!
- Don Nachbaur

“Dark and malty with a hint of sweet and peanut butter notes.” Sounds awesome.

I don’t know about that. I know he was paired with Coffey from the early to mid 90s and both were LHS. Likely he played his off side sometimes. Murphy and Rafalski were RHS so he was on LD with them. Usually D men switch sides on the PP so their forehand is toward center. As a general rule it’s usually higher skilled D men that can adapt to their off side. I remember Nisky playing his offside with the Pens.
- Minnyhock

In an umbrella format on the power play, defensemen do not switch to their opposite side unless they’re asked to play the half wall. Most Power Plays play one defensemen who normally play the top of the umbrella, which is set at the middle of the blue line. There is no real switching of sides required.

As for Lidstrom with Coffey, it doesn’t sound like you’re sure Lidstrom played his offside but all his other partners (Murphy/Rafalski) suggest he stayed put but if you are right, than is veteran Paul Coffey selfish for not giving up the left side to a young Nik Lidstrom?

Frost has been making plays all season. Once he has been played with skilled linemates. Remember that argument? When you said that Frost should be producing even when playing with 4th line scrubs? I told you that Frost should be and needs to be playing with skilled offensive players?
- MJL

I remember the argument. I just don't believe players should have anything handed to them, they need to earn their ice time and earn the chance to play with the top players on the team. At the start of the year, Frost was not doing that, was not making enough plays consistently enough. As the season has gone on he has improved, there is no doubt about it. He is using his legs more and getting into plays more often. Earlier in the season he always seemed to be behind the play, deferring to others. Now FRost is being much more assertive, driving offense, and playing with much more confidence. Now I know you will say he always did that but the fact is he didn't, and Torts said as much multiple times earlier in the season. So Frost is showing he belongs in the NHL .. this is a good thing for the Flyers. In the end however, Tippet still has more offensive upside IMO.

“Dark and malty with a hint of sweet and peanut butter notes.” Sounds awesome.



- Minnyhock

Yes indeed! It's so good! Another good one is Sweet Baby Banana by DuClaw. Chocolate Peanut Butter Banana = awesome! I highly recommend!

I remember the argument. I just don't believe players should have anything handed to them, they need to earn their ice time and earn the chance to play with the top players on the team. At the start of the year, Frost was not doing that, was not making enough plays consistently enough. As the season has gone on he has improved, there is no doubt about it. He is using his legs more and getting into plays more often. Earlier in the season he always seemed to be behind the play, deferring to others. Now FRost is being much more assertive, driving offense, and playing with much more confidence. Now I know you will say he always did that but the fact is he didn't, and Torts said as much multiple times earlier in the season. So Frost is showing he belongs in the NHL .. this is a good thing for the Flyers. In the end however, Tippet still has more offensive upside IMO.
- jd250

I agree with this. Frosty has been more assertive and playing with more confidence in the games I've seen. It's a shame he is on this terrible team as it is tough to judge what he'd be like on a contending team. I still don't see him as a top 6 player on a good team, but hopefully he will keep growing and be a factor for the Flyers in the future.

In an umbrella format on the power play, defensemen do not switch to their opposite side unless they’re asked to play the half wall. Most Power Plays play one defensemen who normally play the top of the umbrella, which is set at the middle of the blue line. There is no real switching of sides required.

As for Lidstrom with Coffey, it doesn’t sound like you’re sure Lidstrom played his offside but all his other partners (Murphy/Rafalski) suggest he stayed put but if you are right, than is Coffey selfish for not giving up the left side for Lidstrom?
- SuperSchennBros

We’re both spitballing here. Lidstrom would be in York’s position being the younger paired with past prime Coffey. I would suspect he played RD at some time. A team with Lidstrom paired with either Coffey, Murphy or Rafelski would almost certainly play 2 D men on the PP with such elite offensive firepower on the back end. I would say mid career on Lidstrom was exclusively at LD but early on I would wager he played some RD.

ADD: Selfish? I doubt it. I don’t know how much defensive regression Coffey had by then. Maybe Lidstrom was a better option. Players were different then. Coffey would have done what he was asked. IMO.