because it can’t. That’s not allowed. It’s either one extreme view or the other.

The general American public has proven time and time again that it is not responsible.
- ImThatGuy

Guns, automatic guns, have existed for over a century. In fact, John Browning's 50 cal remains in-service largely untouched since he designed it over a century ago.

Grand Theft Auto debuted in 1997. Columbine happened in 1999.

Do the fùcking math.

Why, guns don't kill people, people using guns do. Maybe it's time to look at Society and how Parents raise there kids.
- Buff36

That's much easier.... or....

Limit gun sales to 21 and older, hold back the war weapons for soldiers and make background checks more difficult.

Make armour illegal.


Maybe do some research or parenting 🤫

That's much easier.... or....

Limit gun sales to 21 and older, hold back the war weapons for soldiers and make background checks more difficult.

Make armour illegal.


Maybe do some research or parenting 🤫
- Boss34

But by all means keep selling video games that allow people to simulate mass shootings thousands of times a day.

Guns, automatic guns, have existed for over a century. In fact, John Browning's 50 cal remains in-service largely untouched since he designed it over a century ago.

Grand Theft Auto debuted in 1997. Columbine happened in 1999.

Do the fùcking math.
- lacaprup

No. The entire world plays Grand theft auto BTW. Only one country has this problem.

No. The entire world plays Grand theft auto BTW. Only one country has this problem.
- ImThatGuy

Patently false.

Why can’t it be both?

I’m all for responsible gun ownership btw
- sbroads24

So am I, I own a bunch of Guns. My Children have been shooting guns since they were 6. They know how Dangerous they can be. But other than 1 pistol my Guns are always in a Gun Safe. But I have been to houses with rifles right out in the open and I don't think that is appropriate, especially if you have Children.
You can change all the Laws you want now, there's already 3 guns to every household in America already out on the streets. Time to change the culture and work more on Mental Health.

So am I, I own a bunch of Guns. My Children have been shooting guns since they were 6. They know how Dangerous they can be. But other than 1 pistol my Guns are always in a Gun Safe. But I have been to houses with rifles right out in the open and I don't think that is appropriate, especially if you have Children.
You can change all the Laws you want now, there's already 3 guns to every household in America already out on the streets. Time to change the culture and work more on Mental Health.
- Buff36

I'd say a country that cannot distinguish between man and woman anymore is fùcked beyond belief. But, at least we can have Pride night at sporting events and feel superior to countries where it is safe to live.

Patently false.
- lacaprup

Which part?

The video games are played everywhere?
Or
USA makes up for 80% of the entire developed worlds mass shootings?

Which part?

The video games are played everywhere?
Or
USA makes up for 80% of the entire developed worlds mass shootings?
- ImThatGuy

You just answered the question. Do you know how much murder happens south of our border?

Lol @ we're the only country with mass shootings

They had one in Germany not a month ago

But by all means keep selling video games that allow people to simulate mass shootings thousands of times a day.
- lacaprup

Absolutely agree, video games , parenting among other things to blame.


Simple thing though, no need for regular people to have war weapons.

Seems real obvious.

I have guns and I'm responsible

That's much easier.... or....

Limit gun sales to 21 and older, hold back the war weapons for soldiers and make background checks more difficult.

Make armour illegal.


Maybe do some research or parenting 🤫
- Boss34

Or teach your children about the Dangers of guns and responsibilities. Do stuff with them, don't let them lock themselves in a room for 10hrs playing Call of Duty or other Violent games every day. Don't let them roam the streets. Do some parenting, Boss I don't discuss what you do with your Family, don't worry about what I do with mine.

You just answered the question. Do you know how much murder happens south of our border?

Lol @ we're the only country with mass shootings

They had one in Germany not a month ago
- lacaprup

They have one shooting for every 30 here. Congrats on that, I guess?

I’ve played Grandtheft auto I’ve played call of duty I’ve played the last of us. I’ve played violent video games my entire life.

I’ve never had the urge to go on a killing spree.

Absolutely agree, video games , parenting among other things to blame.


Simple thing though, no need for regular people to have war weapons.

Seems real obvious.

I have guns and I'm responsible
- Boss34

All well and good i suppose. Your solution accomplishes nothing as does any other solution.

There are more guns than people in America because the peole in America are largely violent sociopaths. I make this statement from being American for 43 years.

Outlaw all gun sales. Outlaw all videogame sales. We still have 400million guns in a country of 330million nut jobs. And a large number of those nut jobs do their own reloads.

They have one shooting for every 30 here. Congrats on that, I guess?

I’ve played Grandtheft auto I’ve played call of duty I’ve played the last of us. I’ve played violent video games my entire life.

I’ve never had the urge to go on a killing spree.
- ImThatGuy

I'm glad; however, the fact remains Americans have lived with guns since before there was America. The 2nd Amendment has been around since 1789. We never had a mass shooting problem until 1999.

Something changed.

All well and good i suppose. Your solution accomplishes nothing as does any other solution.

There are more guns than people in America because the peole in America are largely violent sociopaths. I make this statement from being American for 43 years.

Outlaw all gun sales. Outlaw all videogame sales. We still have 400million guns in a country of 330million nut jobs. And a large number of those nut jobs do their own reloads.
- lacaprup

Explain to me how video games in which are played in countries like Australia, China, Japan, Canada, and everywhere else in the world don’t cause mass shootings in those places…

Absolutely agree, video games , parenting among other things to blame.


Simple thing though, no need for regular people to have war weapons.

Seems real obvious.

I have guns and I'm responsible
- Boss34

The answer is closer to "All of the Above" than not.

We have evolved into a culture where death is fantasized, and video games are a contributor to that. Graphic violence in movies and television are as well.

At the same time, somewhere along the line, gun ownership/The Second Amendment has morphed into a sort of religion. So, while the majority in that camp, while likely not the ones actually pulling the trigger in these mass shootings, you have a group that claims since it's not directly to blame, it has no obligation to contribute to solving the problem.

And finally, something that very few people like to acknowledge, is that the economy of the United States is largely built on war-making, and so weapons are going to be likely more available here than anywhere else in the world.

Put all of these together, and we've created a big problem.

I'm glad; however, the fact remains Americans have lived with guns since before there was America. The 2nd Amendment has been around since 1789. We never had a mass shooting problem until 1999.

Something changed.
- lacaprup

The American pharmaceutical industry says sup.

The US has some of the worst guidelines in terms of food, and what we are allowed to put in it in the developed world.

The US has the worst and most expensive healthcare system in the entire developed world people cannot get help when they need it because they cannot afford it and more often than not when they do get help they are just thrown on drugs like anti-depressants and SSRIs, which have been linked to cause significant damage to the brain.

sounds like Comrie
- Lunaion

so 50/50 he lets in 5 goals. Wonderful.

The answer is closer to "All of the Above" than not.

We have evolved into a culture where death is fantasized, and video games are a contributor to that. Graphic violence in movies and television are as well.

At the same time, somewhere along the line, gun ownership/The Second Amendment has morphed into a sort of religion. So, while the majority in that camp, while likely not the ones actually pulling the trigger in these mass shootings, you have a group that claims since it's not directly to blame, it has no obligation to contribute to solving the problem.

And finally, something that very few people like to acknowledge, is that the economy of the United States is largely built on war-making, and so weapons are going to be likely more available here than anywhere else in the world.

Put all of these together, and we've created a big problem.
- buffalofan19

Agree

Explain to me how video games in which are played in countries like Australia, China, Japan, Canada, and everywhere else in the world don’t cause mass shootings in those places…
- ImThatGuy

China is an authoritarian society with none of the liberal history of America. Mass violence does happen there, but is from the government on down. And, they recently wiped out 10 million people world-wide with a laboratory engineered virus.

Australia, Japan, and Canada are far less diverse, violent, and divided societies than America. I would much rather be born into any of them at this juncture.

The point of comparing the effects of one set of stimuli (violent video games) on totally different societies is lost upon me. You nor anyone else is going to seize 400million guns from Americans. We need to figure out why America changed in 1999.

The American pharmaceutical industry says sup.

The US has some of the worst guidelines in terms of food, and what we are allowed to put in it in the developed world.

The US has the worst and most expensive healthcare system in the entire developed world people cannot get help when they need it because they cannot afford it and more often than not when they do get help they are just thrown on drugs like anti-depressants and SSRIs, which have been linked to cause significant damage to the brain.
- ImThatGuy

You may be on to something with pharma, but as we saw in the pandemic...they basically run goverments.

This is an unsolvable problem in America.

I'm glad; however, the fact remains Americans have lived with guns since before there was America. The 2nd Amendment has been around since 1789. We never had a mass shooting problem until 1999.

Something changed.
- lacaprup

What about tv and movies. Lots of violence in tv and movies.

So.. get rid of guns, tv, movies, games.....books.. yep.. books have violence in them too. Lets see, what else became big in the late 90's. Internet as well.

Not gonna happen.

The answer is closer to "All of the Above" than not.

We have evolved into a culture where death is fantasized, and video games are a contributor to that. Graphic violence in movies and television are as well.

At the same time, somewhere along the line, gun ownership/The Second Amendment has morphed into a sort of religion. So, while the majority in that camp, while likely not the ones actually pulling the trigger in these mass shootings, you have a group that claims since it's not directly to blame, it has no obligation to contribute to solving the problem.

And finally, something that very few people like to acknowledge, is that the economy of the United States is largely built on war-making, and so weapons are going to be likely more available here than anywhere else in the world.

Put all of these together, and we've created a big problem.
- buffalofan19

Since going off the Gold Standard, inflation has created an enormous wealth inequality gap as well. Stimulates crime.

What about tv and movies. Lots of violence in tv and movies.

So.. get rid of guns, tv, movies, games.....books.. yep.. books have violence in them too. Lets see, what else became big in the late 90's. Internet as well.

Not gonna happen.
- burner087

Agreed. In the 1970s a movie like A Clockwork Orange was an art film. Today it would be the #1 blockbuster.

That's a massive, unsolvable puzzel.

Since going off the Gold Standard, inflation has created an enormous wealth inequality gap as well. Stimulates crime.
- Swedish_Jesus

I will hear no bad talk of Richard Millhouse Nixon.