None of what I posted is false. It is all representative of your posting history and goes to credibility.
- MJL

Right, like in your lack of credibility.

Kid is just getting going. He has the talent to do some damage for years to come.
- Tomahawk

agree, I look at the Pens, would they take him right now? Sure they would and he would change that team for the better. I really believe he will be a 2C, you could call him 3C I guess, people get hung up on 2 or 3, in todays NHL it is interchangeable depending on the situation. You get Frost the right wings and let him build chemistry. I still believe when Lemieux came over, Torts thought, why not put him with Frost, add in the new kid Foerster. That is a quiet confidence from Torts and it worked.

If Cam is healthy, I would not mind Cam-Frost- Foerster

I don't know. I think if you have a business degree and a name you can be an NHL team president. Its the GM job that to me is the most important job the Flyers need to get right this off season. The right person can hurl this team forward. The wrong person can set this team back another decade as we have seen in the past two GMs.
- jd250

Team President has control of hockey ops and oversees the GM.

Isnt his kid a scout in the org? That should be enough to disqualify him
- corduroy

Yeah, Chuck hired his son Kyle as an amateur scout recently. Nice little quid pro quo for Ray hiring Chuck as AGM in Pittsburgh. Kid was straight out of college, no experience at all.

Ray hired his other son Chris when he was w/ the Devils as a scout. Same scenario, straight out of college, no experience.

Hockey nepotism is wild.

Right, like in your lack of credibility.
- jd250

You have no standing to make that judgement.

agree, I look at the Pens, would they take him right now? Sure they would and he would change that team for the better. I really believe he will be a 2C, you could call him 3C I guess, people get hung up on 2 or 3, in todays NHL it is interchangeable depending on the situation. You get Frost the right wings and let him build chemistry. I still believe when Lemieux came over, Torts thought, why not put him with Frost, add in the new kid Foerster. That is a quiet confidence from Torts and it worked.

If Cam is healthy, I would not mind Cam-Frost- Foerster
- wcorvette

Frost no doubt has the potential to reach a 2C level in the NHL and he is steadily climbing to that level. We'll see if he gets there. A team needs 3 good scoring lines to be a top team so even if he levels out as a 3C, still a good player and adds to the teams skill level.

You have no standing to make that judgement.
- MJL

What are you talking about .. I was sitting down when I typed this :-)

Frost no doubt has the potential to reach a 2C level in the NHL and he is steadily climbing to that level. We'll see if he gets there. A team needs 3 good scoring lines to be a top team so even if he levels out as a 3C, still a good player and adds to the teams skill level.
- MJL

I don't Frost any higher than a 3C on a good team; a center with more offensive upside than a Scott Laughton. Couts at this stage should be a 2C and the Flyers need a super star 1C, then they will contend for real.

before making ignorant statements, look up what he was able to accomplish for the team and organization he is running. top notch.
- Peter Richards

Let's settle this. You obviously can't grasp simple concepts such as scoring rate. Obviously incapable of understanding simple concepts such as deployment, usage and ice time as you repeatedly reference Couturier's scoring level as a 3C with little PP time in the past, to a player being used as a 1C with PP time. Completely incapable of deciphering that I was referring to Matthews in my recent statement as having a subpar offensive season. Not Marner. Completely incapable of realizing that my position on Cates is not a criticism of the player. So here is your big chance. I'm going to give you an opportunity to show me up. Step up to the plate. What was ignorant in my statement? Tell me what is top notch about Robert Esche that makes him an ideal candidate for the Flyers team president position. Inform me.

Frost no doubt has the potential to reach a 2C level in the NHL and he is steadily climbing to that level. We'll see if he gets there. A team needs 3 good scoring lines to be a top team so even if he levels out as a 3C, still a good player and adds to the teams skill level.
- MJL

agree on 3 lines, 2&3 are interchangeable depending on the game and situation

ok, all I want now is for the bottom 10 teams to win all their games

Gird your loins, it's gonna be Ray Shero.
- Tomahawk

A GM who rebuilds into a contender by trading for a 30 year old defenseman with a bad back making $9,000,000.

I don't Frost any higher than a 3C on a good team; a center with more offensive upside than a Scott Laughton. Couts at this stage should be a 2C and the Flyers need a super star 1C, then they will contend for real.
- jd250

If the Flyers are able to get an elite 1C and Couturier can come back to the level he was at. Then I would be ecstatic at that and be happy to pencil in Frost as the 3C. None of that means that Frost doesn't have the potential to play at a 2C level in the future.

agree on 3 lines, 2&3 are interchangeable depending on the game and situation
- wcorvette

Yes, they certainly can be. One line can be playing better and elevated for a game in ice time.

Let's settle this. You obviously can't grasp simple concepts such as scoring rate. Obviously incapable of understanding simple concepts such as deployment, usage and ice time as you repeatedly reference Couturier's scoring level as a 3C with little PP time in the past, to a player being used as a 1C with PP time. Completely incapable of deciphering that I was referring to Matthews in my recent statement as having a subpar offensive season. Not Marner. So here is your big chance. Completely incapable of realizing that my position on Cates is not a criticism of the player. I'm going to give you an opportunity to show me up. Step up to the plate. What was ignorant in my statement? Tell me what is top notch about Robert Esche that makes him an ideal candidate for the Flyers team president position. Inform me.
- MJL

Can I try? Robert Esche has a provocative last name and is president of the Utica Comets of the AHL. There .. more than qualified!

I don't Frost any higher than a 3C on a good team; a center with more offensive upside than a Scott Laughton. Couts at this stage should be a 2C and the Flyers need a super star 1C, then they will contend for real.
- jd250

pretty much right but I think you miss the idea that the middle 6 lines are different today then before, as the season rolls on, they will be interchangeable. IF the Coots line is going, they would get more ice, if Frost is on, his line would.

Enough of the arguing on here. This can easily be settled with a one day fight club.

Whoever wins the fight wins the argument.

There can be no other way.

I'll find us a nice parking lot for the festivities

BYOB

Anybody have suggestions where to do this shindig?!

pretty much right but I think you miss the idea that the middle 6 lines are different today then before, as the season rolls on, they will be interchangeable. IF the Coots line is going, they would get more ice, if Frost is on, his line would.
- wcorvette

It's top 9 in today's NHL. Not top 6.

Frost has seven points in his last five games. His 24 points over his last 36 games — since the start of 2023 — leads the Flyers. And it goes beyond points. Philadelphia controlled 74.44 percent of the expected goals at five-on-five on Tuesday with Frost on the ice; a team-high mark. And that wasn’t a one-game anomaly, either. During the month of March, Frost has posted a 59.44 percent xG share across 12 games, an undeniably stellar rate that trails only Tippett among Flyers forwards over that span.

THE A
- wcorvette

Charlie O is very high on Frost, and he should be.
Frost is playing good hockey and I feel it's only the tip of the iceberg for how his game will grow the next few seasons.

If the Flyers do move on from Frost it will be a big mistake. But from all sounds of it Fanny B is a huge Frost supporter. Let Danny B teach Frost a few of his tricks.
Iam hoping for big things from frosty

I don't Frost any higher than a 3C on a good team; a center with more offensive upside than a Scott Laughton. Couts at this stage should be a 2C and the Flyers need a super star 1C, then they will contend for real.
- jd250

These are the 2Cs on some current good teams:

CAR: Kotkaniemi
BOS: Krejci
COL: Compher
DAL: Johnston
FLA: Lundell
LA: Danault
MIN: Hartman
NYI: Horvat
NYR: Trocheck
SEA: Wennberg
TB: Paul
VEG: Karlsson



If Frost hits anywhere close to his potential he would be good enough to hang with those kinds of guys. (I still think he has Trocheck kind of upside)

Teams with 2Cs like Malkin, Drai, Hischier and Tavares are outliers. Coots would be an outlier at 2C (assuming he's anywhere close to his pre-injury form)

It's top 9 in today's NHL. Not top 6.
- MJL

was referring to middle 6, I believe most teams do have a top line center, good teams at least. I don't think Frost will hit that ceiling

These are the 2Cs on some current good teams:

CAR: Kotkaniemi
BOS: Krejci
COL: Compher
DAL: Johnston
FLA: Lundell
LA: Danault
MIN: Hartman
NYI: Horvat
NYR: Trocheck
SEA: Wennberg
TB: Paul
VEG: Karlsson



If Frost hits anywhere close to his potential he would be good enough to hang with those kinds of guys. (I still think he has Trocheck kind of upside)

Teams with 2Cs like Malkin, Drai, Hischier and Tavares are outliers. Coots would be an outlier at 2C (assuming he's anywhere close to his pre-injury form)
- Tomahawk

I guess it is easy for posters to forget Frost age and time missed, they get tunnel vision and forget we want to see what a player will be like in his prime.

was referring to middle 6, I believe most teams do have a top line center, good teams at least. I don't think Frost will hit that ceiling
- wcorvette

I understand and I completely agree with you. I'm just looking at needing 3 scoring lines to be a top team. As you said, one game one line will be going and they'll get the ice time.

I guess it is easy for posters to forget Frost age and time missed, they get tunnel vision and forget we want to see what a player will be like in his prime.
- wcorvette

Correct. Frost has played 149 NHL games. If he keeps following the course he is on with steady ascension. He should be an even better player next season.

These are the 2Cs on some current good teams:

CAR: Kotkaniemi
BOS: Krejci
COL: Compher
DAL: Johnston
FLA: Lundell
LA: Danault
MIN: Hartman
NYI: Horvat
NYR: Trocheck
SEA: Wennberg
TB: Paul
VEG: Karlsson



If Frost hits anywhere close to his potential he would be good enough to hang with those kinds of guys. (I still think he has Trocheck kind of upside)

Teams with 2Cs like Malkin, Drai, Hischier and Tavares are outliers. Coots would be an outlier at 2C (assuming he's anywhere close to his pre-injury form)
- Tomahawk

For Frost to hang with these players, he needs to get much stronger on the puck.