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black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: tied up at a diddy party, YT
Joined: 01.10.2015

Mar 31 @ 2:30 PM ET
I think Hayes is as good as gone. It's just a question of how good or bad of a deal they make to do so. I also don't think they will deal Konecny. I think the players most likely to move are Hayes, Provorov and Hart.
- MJL


we will be bent over a barrel, that's for sure.

and I agree 100%
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Mar 31 @ 2:36 PM ET
How many times has someone fought two players in a row like that. I know it’s happened before just can’t remember who from the flyers. But also just in general. When was the last time that has happened?
- Peter Richards

I may be leight but domi once fought two guys at once and landed shots to each of their faces. I won't ever forget that fight as he skated backwards 😂
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 31 @ 2:40 PM ET
I may be leight but domi once fought two guys at once and landed shots to each of their faces. I won't ever forget that fight as he skated backwards 😂
- Bob Habib


Let's not forget when he fought the guy in the stands who fell into the box. Who got the instigator in that?
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 31 @ 2:40 PM ET
What happens to soldiers after they leave boot camp?
- MJL


why, what do you want to know?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 31 @ 2:41 PM ET
why, what do you want to know?
- Peter Richards


Obviously I want to know what I asked.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 31 @ 2:42 PM ET
All this talk about ND/Kastelic... but nobody mentioning how Farabee got Gerbe'd by DeBrincat?


- Tomahawk

Because nobody thinks it’s a big deal
black_francis
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: tied up at a diddy party, YT
Joined: 01.10.2015

Mar 31 @ 2:44 PM ET
I say Lemeiux could be back simply because I'm not sure how confident they are that Allison will remain healthy. And even a whiff of chemistry with Frost might be enough for them to at least give him an opportunity to make the team.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Mar 31 @ 2:45 PM ET
Obviously I want to know what I asked.
- MJL

They go to ait training for there specific job
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 31 @ 2:45 PM ET
All this talk about ND/Kastelic... but nobody mentioning how Farabee got Gerbe'd by DeBrincat?


- Tomahawk


farabee needs to add strength back....but i actually think those two are the same weight class. don't think the fight was too lopsided.
SuperSchennBros
Location: Not protected by the Mods...I mean Mob. Take your best shot!
Joined: 09.01.2012

Mar 31 @ 2:45 PM ET
If the team is going to lose, I wish they would do it in regulation
- Flybynight88

It’s only a matter of time until we are elevenths worst in the league
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 31 @ 2:47 PM ET
Obviously I want to know what I asked.
- MJL


Can't speak for soldiers in detail but can for the marines. i know the army has boot camp usually where their next taining is conducted. (what their MOS will be be.)

making sure it wasn't rhetorical.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 31 @ 2:49 PM ET
They go to ait training for there specific job
- SMS4016


I'm not interested in what actually happens in the military. I'm leading the discussion to what happens next in the context of the analogy as it applies to hockey.

The Flyers issue isn't and never has been a work ethic or an effort issue. They have a talent issue. If all Tortorella is, is a drill Sergeant to teach the basics. Then the Flyers have the wrong coach. He is okay for now, but if the Flyers are going to move into the realm of modern day hockey. They not only need a lot more talent. They'll also need a new coach eventually.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 31 @ 2:50 PM ET
Can't speak for soldiers in detail but can for the marines. i know the army has boot camp usually where their next taining is conducted. (what their MOS will be be.)

making sure it wasn't rhetorical.

- Peter Richards


It wasn't rhetorical and it definitely wasn't about the military. It was in the context of how the analogy applies to hockey.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 31 @ 2:50 PM ET
I'm not interested in what actually happens in the military. I'm leading the discussion to what happens next in the context of the analogy as it applies to hockey.

The Flyers issue isn't and never has been a work ethic or an effort issue. They have a talent issue. If all Tortorella is, is a drill Sergeant to teach the basics. Then the Flyers have the wrong coach. He is okay for now, but if the Flyers are going to move into the realm of modern day hockey. They not only need a lot more talent. They'll also need a new coach eventually.

- MJL


he provided what you asked for.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 31 @ 3:01 PM ET
he provided what you asked for.
- Peter Richards


No he didn't. This is what I'm talking about. What is the point of your response here? I elaborated on what I was referring to. To promote discussion. How does what you posted above promote discussion?
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 31 @ 3:02 PM ET
It wasn't rhetorical and it definitely wasn't about the military. It was in the context of how the analogy applies to hockey.
- MJL


well that's a different question then.
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Mar 31 @ 3:02 PM ET
Speaking of records... how many pages of arguing about ND fighting can we have today? I don't think anybody is swaying the opinion of anybody else on the topic.
I'd rather see arguing about frost (who is going to be a hell of a player, btw) over this fight. The game is over.
Let's argue about other irrelevant crap.

So it's been a small sample size but what do you guys think of Brink? He actually looked pretty good before his injury. I'm excited to see what he does next year after a healthy summer of training and building mass.
What other prospects are you excited to see? And why? Then we can argue about that, too!
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 31 @ 3:03 PM ET
That game where Emery fought Marty Biron then answered the bell vs Andrew Peters comes to mind:


- Tomahawk
Ahhh, the good ole days!! Sounds like the fans really hated those fights!
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Mar 31 @ 3:03 PM ET
well that's a different question then.
- Peter Richards


Not it's not.
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Mar 31 @ 3:04 PM ET
Let's not forget when he fought the guy in the stands who fell into the box. Who got the instigator in that?
- MJL

I forgot about that!!!! Thank you for the reminder! Didn't the fan spray him with something or was that vice versa?!
Either way, domi always made a game interesting. I wish we had more of that personality in the league, along with more roenick's and ovechkins
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 31 @ 3:04 PM ET
They go to ait training for there specific job
- SMS4016


could never remember what the army called it. always thought the branches should use the same terminology. had a kid from the army in my boot camp platoon. our D.I.'s tore him apart for the incorrect terms all day. it was hilarious.but no laughing.
Peter Richards
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Mar 31 @ 3:06 PM ET
I forgot about that!!!! Thank you for the reminder! Didn't the fan spray him with something or was that vice versa?!
Either way, domi always made a game interesting. I wish we had more of that personality in the league, along with more roenick's and ovechkins

- Bob Habib


i think they both did, with the water/beer works
Phillywhiteout
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: West Chester, PA
Joined: 08.11.2020

Mar 31 @ 3:06 PM ET
It’s only a matter of time until we are elevenths worst in the league
- SuperSchennBros
They're gonna finish 7th worst in the league (right where they are now). You heard it here first.
Flybynight88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.29.2010

Mar 31 @ 3:14 PM ET
They're gonna finish 7th worst in the league (right where they are now). You heard it here first.
- Phillywhiteout


Hoping your right, if they slip anymore it won't be good.
missingmike
Joined: 07.08.2011

Mar 31 @ 3:15 PM ET
I'm not interested in what actually happens in the military. I'm leading the discussion to what happens next in the context of the analogy as it applies to hockey.

The Flyers issue isn't and never has been a work ethic or an effort issue. They have a talent issue. If all Tortorella is, is a drill Sergeant to teach the basics. Then the Flyers have the wrong coach. He is okay for now, but if the Flyers are going to move into the realm of modern day hockey. They not only need a lot more talent. They'll also need a new coach eventually.

- MJL

A few clarifications of my analogy on your request:
As well as a drill sergeant’s, Torts’ job is very temporary with the troops he has been given. So, yes, I agree with you- he is not a long term coach
Flyers had had problems with effort and work ethics, that’s why they needed a reset. Young players, definitely, will benefit from getting this in the beginning of their careers.
After mission and attitude set in a boot camp the personnel moves on to learn/ participate in more complex/ elite assignments. But they move on understanding roles, responsibilities and goals.
Hope that helps understanding my analogy
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