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Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 4 @ 2:02 PM ET
Only took 6 years but you are correct.
- SuperSchennBros


FYI Joel outscored Brayden on his own in 20-21.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Apr 4 @ 2:14 PM ET
FYI Joel outscored Brayden on his own in 20-21.
- Tomahawk


while good for the flyers. St.Louis and Brayden have a cup.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 4 @ 2:15 PM ET


https://www.flyersinsider...ect-For-The-Better-204275

Flyers will get a 2nd if JOB doesn't sign. It could be in 2023 but more likely 2024.

Pelle31Forever
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 05.20.2014

Apr 4 @ 2:20 PM ET
Can anyone confirm the report of Michkov's father being found dead in a pool? Apparently his father had been missing for a couple days.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 4 @ 2:25 PM ET
Can anyone confirm the report of Michkov's father being found dead in a pool? Apparently his father had been missing for a couple days.
- Pelle31Forever



I see it on multiple sites now. Daily Faceoff, and yahoo sports. Discovered in a pond near Sochi.

https://www.dailyfaceoff....matvei-michkov-found-dead

Seems sus to me.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 4 @ 2:29 PM ET
It's not the Western teams that throw off the schedule as much as it is they are playing the Atlantic Division too much.

CBJ - 4x
CAR - 4x

But...
NYR - 3x
PIT - 3x

Makes no sense. It should be super simple:

16 Western teams - 2x (32 games)
8 Atlantic Division - 2x (16 games)
7 Metro Division - 4x (28 games)

6 games left over - you could give three each to Atlantic / Metro based on previous years standings. You could add extra rivalry games to Metro. You could add extra games to Atlantic. You can use some of those games to play the dumb overseas games or outdoor games.

- atibus

Honestly, there is no need to play the Western teams more than once per season and you can simply alternate home and away. You can then play the Atlantic teams 3 times each season

So,
West 16 x 1 = 16 games
Atl. 8 x 3 = 24 games
Metro 8 x 5 = 40 games

This gets us to 80 and the final 2 can be a Sat/Sun back to back “rivals” game vs a division opponent.

Owners should love this as it cuts travel costs and creates rivalries.
BiggE
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: SELL THE DAMN TEAM!
Joined: 04.17.2012

Apr 4 @ 2:29 PM ET
https://www.flyersinsider...ect-For-The-Better-204275

Flyers will get a 2nd if JOB doesn't sign. It could be in 2023 but more likely 2024.

- MBFlyerfan


Take the 2nd. Please.
Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Apr 4 @ 2:30 PM ET
Honestly, there is no need to play the Western teams more than once per season and you can simply alternate home and away. You can then play the Atlantic teams 3 times each season

So,
West 16 x 1 = 16 games
Atl. 8 x 3 = 24 games
Metro 8 x 5 = 40 games

This gets us to 80 and the final 2 can be a Sat/Sun back to back “rivals” game vs a division opponent.

Owners should love this as it cuts travel costs and creates rivalries.

- BiggE


the new schedule is what killed some of the rivalries.
mikeyo27
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.18.2014

Apr 4 @ 2:30 PM ET
https://www.flyersinsider...ect-For-The-Better-204275

Flyers will get a 2nd if JOB doesn't sign. It could be in 2023 but more likely 2024.

- MBFlyerfan


Doubtful even if he makes the NHL he will ever be better than a 3rd line player at best. Decide to not sign him, let someone else have a crack at him and take the pick.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 4 @ 2:39 PM ET
Doubtful even if he makes the NHL he will ever be better than a 3rd line player at best. Decide to not sign him, let someone else have a crack at him and take the pick.
- mikeyo27


But then again the upside of any player they would take in the 2nd in 2024 is probably gonna be similar, except there would be a 5-6 year wait for that player to crack the lineup.

I'm sure that's what the Flyers are weighing right now. They kinda need decent young players sooner than later. And JOB is still a decent young player.
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 4 @ 2:50 PM ET
I see it on multiple sites now. Daily Faceoff, and yahoo sports. Discovered in a pond near Sochi.

https://www.dailyfaceoff....matvei-michkov-found-dead

Seems sus to me.

- MBFlyerfan

Regardless if this story is accurate or not, I don't see Michkov going in the 1st round anyway given the circumstances with Russia, plus he is a very small winger.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 4 @ 2:54 PM ET
while good for the flyers. St.Louis and Brayden have a cup.
- Peter Richards


And LA won a Cup w/ Richie, whom Brayden was originally traded for. When Joel gets traded away he'll inevitably win a Cup as well. It's Flyers tradition.
TobyFlenderson
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: The Annex, Scranton, PA
Joined: 06.13.2013

Apr 4 @ 2:55 PM ET
Regardless if this story is accurate or not, I don't see Michkov going in the 1st round anyway given the circumstances with Russia, plus he is a very small winger.
- jd250

You may be the only one.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 4 @ 2:56 PM ET
Regardless if this story is accurate or not, I don't see Michkov going in the 1st round anyway given the circumstances with Russia, plus he is a very small winger.
- jd250



He is most certainly going in the first round. There is no doubt about that. That is a 100% certainty.

If he fell to us at 7 the Flyers should sprint to the podium and take him. I doubt he falls that far.


Peter Richards
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Apr 4 @ 2:59 PM ET
And LA won a Cup w/ Richie, whom Brayden was originally traded for. When Joel gets traded away he'll inevitably win a Cup as well. It's Flyers tradition.
- Tomahawk


there was more than that on the roster too. Carter, Williams, Carcillo......was gagne or was that just tampa he played with.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 4 @ 2:59 PM ET
He is most certainly going in the first round. There is no doubt about that. That is a 100% certainty.

If he fell to us at 7 the Flyers should sprint to the podium and take him. I doubt he falls that far.

- MBFlyerfan


At least he didn't say he is an AHL player. Progress.
Peter Richards
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Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.24.2019

Apr 4 @ 3:05 PM ET
He is most certainly going in the first round. There is no doubt about that. That is a 100% certainty.

If he fell to us at 7 the Flyers should sprint to the podium and take him. I doubt he falls that far.

- MBFlyerfan


weirder things have happened. coots fell during his draft year due to getting mono. there was someone else who fell pretty far years ago but forget who it was. not willing to search random draft years trying to figure it out. just remember the commentators at the draft saying he'd be the next pick and it was like 10 later (maybe exaggerated) when the person went.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 4 @ 3:06 PM ET
there was more than that on the roster too. Carter, Williams, Carcillo......was gagne or was that just tampa he played with.
- Peter Richards




MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 4 @ 3:07 PM ET
weirder things have happened. coots fell during his draft year due to getting mono. there was someone else who fell pretty far years ago but forget who it was. not willing to search random draft years trying to figure it out. just remember the commentators at the draft saying he'd be the next pick and it was like 10 later (maybe exaggerated) when the person went.
- Peter Richards


Yeah, to be honest, I would put the chances of him falling to us at 30% for. Which I guess is high. You just don't pass up on a kid like that. Some say he rivals Bedard. I wont go that far but he is arguably the #2 best prospect in the draft.

Ill wait the three years and let him develop in the KHL and he comes over when he is 21 ready to go.
wcorvette
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Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Boynton Beach, FL
Joined: 10.03.2010

Apr 4 @ 3:10 PM ET
But then again the upside of any player they would take in the 2nd in 2024 is probably gonna be similar, except there would be a 5-6 year wait for that player to crack the lineup.

I'm sure that's what the Flyers are weighing right now. They kinda need decent young players sooner than later. And JOB is still a decent young player.

- Tomahawk



lets see how he does in the frozen 4
corduroy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: “How many times is she gonna ask this f'n question?”, NT
Joined: 12.09.2006

Apr 4 @ 3:12 PM ET
You may be the only one.
- TobyFlenderson


whatever his analysis is generally go opposite of it and you'd be better off
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Apr 4 @ 3:13 PM ET
I see it on multiple sites now. Daily Faceoff, and yahoo sports. Discovered in a pond near Sochi.

https://www.dailyfaceoff....matvei-michkov-found-dead

Seems sus to me.

- MBFlyerfan

So he should be available at pick number 7 then, huh?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 4 @ 3:15 PM ET
weirder things have happened. coots fell during his draft year due to getting mono. there was someone else who fell pretty far years ago but forget who it was. not willing to search random draft years trying to figure it out. just remember the commentators at the draft saying he'd be the next pick and it was like 10 later (maybe exaggerated) when the person went.
- Peter Richards



There's a huge difference between falling from 1st to 8th to falling completely out of the first round.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Apr 4 @ 3:15 PM ET
So he should be available at pick number 7 then, huh?
- Bob Habib



While I doubt he falls out of the top 5. It's not outside the realm of possibility.
Tomahawk
Ottawa Senators
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 4 @ 3:19 PM ET
weirder things have happened. coots fell during his draft year due to getting mono. there was someone else who fell pretty far years ago but forget who it was. not willing to search random draft years trying to figure it out. just remember the commentators at the draft saying he'd be the next pick and it was like 10 later (maybe exaggerated) when the person went.
- Peter Richards


Guys can slide a few picks for reasons but I can't ever recall a kid who was #2-4 in the final pre-draft rankings falling out of the 1st-round.

(especially when we're talking about a "generational" talent)
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