Really like York’s willingness to shoot, he also gets off that wrister well for guys to get a stick on

Shocked Pikachu face



And what's up with you not taking your own advice here?
- Tomahawk

I'm glad you asked this question. In no comment that I have made did I in any way say Michkov was a bad player. I simply stated that given the situation between the US and Russia Michkov may fall, that's it. I also pointed out that we have not even seen Michkov play in the AHL so lets annoint him as being anything more than he is right now.

If he’s there at #7 the Flyers run to the podium and take him. Comparison with Jack Hughes being available at 7? I don’t see Mish falling any further then 5…not a chance.
- landros 2

I agree, I read argument Michkov won't be here for 3 years. Ok, Gauthier will be here in 2 years. Is waiting an extra year for an elite talent potentially a deal breaker? I have read nothing from Michkov suggesting he plans staying in the KHL his entire careee.

I just posted a real life example of what I am talking about. Its a legitmate point. I'm up for a truce any time you are.
- jd250

It's not a legitimate point. He's an elite talent. Saying he could drop in the draft is one thing. Saying he could fall out of the first round is another

I'm glad you asked this question. In no comment that I have made did I in any way say Michkov was a bad player. I simply stated that given the situation between the US and Russia Michkov may fall, that's it. I also pointed out that we have not even seen Michkov play in the AHL so lets annoint him as being anything more than he is right now.
- jd250

No that's not what you said.

I'm glad you asked this question. In no comment that I have made did I in any way say Michkov was a bad player. I simply stated that given the situation between the US and Russia Michkov may fall, that's it. I also pointed out that we have not even seen Michkov play in the AHL so let’s annoint him as being anything more than he is right now.
- jd250

Fall out of the first round….that’s an insane statement

I didn't see if this got a response yesterday, so I'll ask again...

Has an NHL head coach decided to take multiple games off at the end of the season before?

Hayes just coasting around the ice, doing his part to nail down 7th overall
- Trox88

And Frost has now passed him for the team lead in ES Points.

https://www.nhl.com/stats...Points&page=0&pageSize=50

I'm glad you asked this question. In no comment that I have made did I in any way say Michkov was a bad player. I simply stated that given the situation between the US and Russia Michkov may fall, that's it. I also pointed out that we have not even seen Michkov play in the AHL so lets annoint him as being anything more than he is right now.
- jd250

All three Russians who were slated to go 1st-round in 2022 went in the 1st-round. That's post-invasion with no transfer agreement or MOU in place.

Michkov is also way more talented then the three that got selected last year (you would know this if you watched him).

The political situation may come into play if a team is weighing him against players of nearly the same level of talent (Fantilli, Carlson), but once we're in the range of #4-10 the cost/benefit swings heavily in favor of taking him. Most rebuilding teams wouldn't mind waiting a couple of years for his current contract to expire.

And he won't play a single game in the AHL. The guy is already in the second best league in the world. He just recently turned 18 and he's already one of the more dangerous and productive players in the KHL.

It's not a legitimate point. He's an elite talent. Saying he could drop in the draft is one thing. Saying he could fall out of the first round is another
- MJL

Wait, but Alexander Nikishin who is a 21 year old defenseman who is currently 9th in scoring in the KHL is not considered an elite talent? Can't have it both ways.

All three Russians who were slated to go 1st-round in 2022 went in the 1st-round. That's post-invasion with no transfer agreement or MOU in place.

Michkov is also way more talented then the three that got selected last year (you would know this if you watched him).

The political situation may come into play if a team is weighing him against players of nearly the same level of talent (Fantilli, Carlson), but once we're in the range of #4-10 the cost/benefit swings heavily in favor of taking him. Most rebuilding teams wouldn't mind waiting a couple of years for his current contract to expire.

And he won't play a single game in the AHL. The guy is already in the second best league in the world. He just recently turned 18 and he's already one of the more dangerous and productive players in the KHL.
- Tomahawk

We'll see. I did watch some highlights of his this morning, good finisher but seems to benefit a lot from the players he plays with, who set him up frequently.

And Frost has now passed him for the team lead in ES Points.

https://www.nhl.com/stats...Points&page=0&pageSize=50
- Feanor

Rocky Thompson in his post game said between the first and second period of last night's game he challenged the team to play harder since he felt there were a few players that were just coasting around and not trying. Who might he be referring to?

I didn't see if this got a response yesterday, so I'll ask again...

Has an NHL head coach decided to take multiple games off at the end of the season before?
- Feanor

Torts is not taking the games off, he is watching the games with Briere from above. This to my knowledge has never happened in a regular season game, but does occur frequently in the pre-season.

And Frost has now passed him for the team lead in ES Points.

https://www.nhl.com/stats...Points&page=0&pageSize=50
- Feanor

not too shabby for an AHL player

We'll see. I did watch some highlights of his this morning, good finisher but seems to benefit a lot from the players he plays with, who set him up frequently.
- jd250

HK Sochi is the worst team in the league with very few import and NHL drafted players. He's not benefiting from playing with anybody there. What you're seeing is Russian hockey, everybody touches the puck.

How about this: if he doesn't fall out of the 1st-round you agree to change your location to "MJL is my daddy"?

This is gonna be a huge offseason. If the Flyers finish at 7th, I guess it’s best to believe we get the 7th overall pick.

I’m a Provorov guy but I am hoping for a Provorov and Konency trade and brings back hopefully a Richards and Carter return.

As for trading Hart, I just couldn’t do it. We probably should but I couldn’t as GM. Could you imaging trading this guy and he goes on to be a franchise goalie somewhere else?

HK Sochi is the worst team in the league with very few import and NHL drafted players. He's not benefiting from playing with anybody there. What you're seeing is Russian hockey, everybody touches the puck.

How about this: if he doesn't fall out of the 1st-round you agree to change your location to "MJL is my daddy"?


- Tomahawk

So you mentioned that if Michkov fell out of the top 3 it will be a no-brainer to select him no matter what the situation is? So if you are a GM and you have to decide between Zach Benson and Michkov, both similar sized players with similar skills, you are picking Michkov? I'd pick Benson all day long.

And I am already MJL's daddy, just wait until Hayes ends up in Boston and then you will see shock-n-awe!

So you mentioned that if Michkov fell out of the top 3 it will be a no-brainer to select him no matter what the situation is? So if you are a GM and you have to decide between Zach Benson and Michkov, both similar sized players with similar skills, you are picking Michkov? I'd pick Benson all day long.
- jd250

Each team will need to make their own risk assessment when it's their turn to pick. It is totally within the realm of possibility that a team may play it safe and go with Carlsson or Benson over Michkov. But once you get down to Cristall or Will Smith or Dvorsky or Yager, who all have their own huge question marks... Michkov suddenly doesn't look so risky anymore.

And I am already MJL's daddy, just wait until Hayes ends up in Boston and then you will see shock-n-awe!
- jd250

So will you do it or not? Are you confident enough in your POV to wager something so trivial?

Wait, but Alexander Nikishin who is a 21 year old defenseman who is currently 9th in scoring in the KHL is not considered an elite talent? Can't have it both ways.
- jd250

You tell me. I don't know the player. There is no spin out of your comment.

You tell me. I don't know the player. There is no spin out of your comment.
- MJL

The Canes already refused to trade him at the TDL. Why would they trade him now when he's only got one more year left on his KHL deal? Not like they need him right away anyway, with their d-corps being one of the best in the league and Burns still humming along.

I would be pleasantly surprised if Michkov is drafted in the top 3. My thought is it will be Bedard, Fantilli, and Carlsson- may be Carlsson makes it to 2nd overall. In my novice opinion, Benson, although the lesser prospect, one could make an argument over Michkov. After, that no prospect has as high a ceiling as Michkov.

As far as the Flyers, arguably they have 1 forward who is 1st line quality- TK. I would be highly disappointed in the Flyers if they pass on Michkov if they are not selecting in the top 2.

So you mentioned that if Michkov fell out of the top 3 it will be a no-brainer to select him no matter what the situation is? So if you are a GM and you have to decide between Zach Benson and Michkov, both similar sized players with similar skills, you are picking Michkov? I'd pick Benson all day long.

And I am already MJL's daddy, just wait until Hayes ends up in Boston and then you will see shock-n-awe!
- jd250

They are not. Michkov is clearly better. If he were Canadian he would be the clear cut #2 pick over Fantilli according to many.

And yes, if he falls out of the top three whatever team who does get him will be getting a gift from the Hawkey Gawds.

In fact, if the Flyers have a chance to get him and pass, it will be a failure on the level of not picking Makar IMO. They simply can NOT pass on a player of his caliber up if he is available at 7.

That being said, if Michov is not there at 7, I would be happy to get Benson. However if they are both available I take Michkov all day every day.

They are not. Michkov is clearly better. If he were Canadian he would be the clear cut #2 pick over Fantilli according to many.

And yes, if he falls out of the top three whatever team who does get him will be getting a gift from the Hawkey Gawds.

In fact, if the Flyers have a chance to get him and pass, it will be a failure on the level of not picking Makar IMO. They simply can NOT pass on a player of his caliber up if he is available at 7.

That being said, if Michov is not there at 7, I would be happy to get Benson. However if they are both available I take Michkov all day every day.
- MBFlyerfan

I'm curious, how do you know so much about Michkov?

Each team will need to make their own risk assessment when it's their turn to pick. It is totally within the realm of possibility that a team may play it safe and go with Carlsson or Benson over Michkov. But once you get down to Cristall or Will Smith or Dvorsky or Yager, who all have their own huge question marks... Michkov suddenly doesn't look so risky anymore.



So will you do it or not? Are you confident enough in your POV to wager something so trivial?
- Tomahawk

The only POV I have posted is that Michkov might fall because of the situation with Russia and the US, and given several other players include one for the Flyers that have been held up in Russia. I don't think this is a controversial take, in fact its quite an obvious one. It you and others that are making it more than it is. But yes, I am quite confident that there is a real possibility Michkov falls and as I stated, if he really falls then might be the time for the Flyers to make a trade back into the first round and get him, since the risk is much lower. Again, this is obvious, not controversial.

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