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Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Apr 24 @ 12:48 PM ET

- DirtyDan



This QB class is being hyped up way way way too much. Thankfully, we have Allen.

Also billsmafia on twitter are going nuts with uneducated draft ideas. It’s also annoying enough.

Apparently the Bills this offseason have traded for dhop Derrick Henry and fired all the of the coaches a million times by now 😂😂
Sabretooth9
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 05.24.2019

Apr 24 @ 12:53 PM ET
Ostlund puts on 15lbs he might be the best out of the 3, he has those skills.
- Buff36


Oh yeah. I’m not at all saying he sucks. I am just saying based on where he is at in his development.

Kulich is ahead of oslund due to producing at the AHL level vs oslund overseas.

A prospect himself in the AHL vs OHL, WHL over overseas shows more promise than players in lesser leagues.

Now obviously that is the majority of the time. Then you have a Matt savoie who can break that way of thinking.

But just in general. That is how I look at it
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Apr 24 @ 12:53 PM ET
If Reinbacher is there when we pick in the 1st that pick better not be used in a trade unless it's a bona-fide top 6F or Top 3 D coming back in the package.
- Buff36


I don't think they trade it.

Reinbacher & Barlow sit at the top for me for our specific needs, I lean to Barlow if both are available, big, physical, plays the PK, can finish. Reinbacher looks more like a project.

If you think KA is gunna stay small some great guys in Cristall and Pellilkka
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 24 @ 12:54 PM ET
Whats the word on Dahlin/Power extensions?
- washedup20


No need to worry about them they will both be signed long term as you heard.

Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 24 @ 12:55 PM ET
I am just saying they need to trade away some assets, we have too many they all wont get rosters spots with the big club. We can afford to trade some of them away and draft picks for that matter.
- hehateme


Good post.

Although having a stacked prospect pool allows you to make a trade whenever a good trade target becomes available. They really aren't a coupon that expires.

I could see a 3 for 1 type trade though.

We wouldnt need to target a top pairing defenseman, top 3 center or 1st liner in general. Nor 1 A goalie.

No way kyvynv Adam's trades away 3 of his picks though IMO. He knows these kids already.

Left overs though...

Olofsson
Bryson
Joker

Seam most likely to be traded.

Gotta give to get, but what's a 4th , 2nd pair defenseman cost?
DirtyDan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Why aren't more people interrigent? Rike Me? , ON
Joined: 02.03.2021

Apr 24 @ 1:01 PM ET
Ostlund puts on 15lbs he might be the best out of the 3, he has those skills.
- Buff36


Crazy to me that any one of those 3 guys could be the best. Great 1st round by KA and Company.

Even crazier though... the 41st pick...
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Apr 24 @ 1:16 PM ET
Crazy to me that any one of those 3 guys could be the best. Great 1st round by KA and Company.

Even crazier though... the 41st pick...

- DirtyDan

Crazier thing is Luneau is probably ready to take his spot in the top 4 next year.
RhinoFan
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Visionville
Joined: 10.12.2015

Apr 24 @ 1:20 PM ET
No need to worry about them they will both be signed long term as you heard.
- gerbe75pts


Music to my ears.

I don't think there are too many ways left for them to (frank) this up. Having Dahlin or Power walk or put us over a barrel like Skinner did, would be one of those ways.
IonSabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I said that months ago, keep up!, FL
Joined: 03.10.2013

Apr 24 @ 1:21 PM ET
If Reinbacher is there when we pick in the 1st that pick better not be used in a trade unless it's a bona-fide top 6F or Top 3 D coming back in the package.
- Buff36


Agreed.
However, if Reinbacher is gone, I'd consider trading back to later in the 1st and picking up additional 2nd rounders. I'd also consider trading up to get him around 8-10 if possible
Fogolin
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 03.27.2013

Apr 24 @ 1:22 PM ET
Crazy to me that any one of those 3 guys could be the best. Great 1st round by KA and Company.

Even crazier though... the 41st pick...

- DirtyDan


Yeah, I think it looks like Luneau should have been the pick there. Oh well.
homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 24 @ 1:24 PM ET
Whats the word on Dahlin/Power extensions?
- washedup20

I don't think they can sign an extension until the summer

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 24 @ 1:26 PM ET


Even crazier though... the 41st pick...

- DirtyDan




Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Apr 24 @ 1:29 PM ET
Good post.

Although having a stacked prospect pool allows you to make a trade whenever a good trade target becomes available. They really aren't a coupon that expires.

I could see a 3 for 1 type trade though.

We wouldnt need to target a top pairing defenseman, top 3 center or 1st liner in general. Nor 1 A goalie.

No way kyvynv Adam's trades away 3 of his picks though IMO. He knows these kids already.

Left overs though...

Olofsson
Bryson
Joker

Seam most likely to be traded.

Gotta give to get, but what's a 4th , 2nd pair defenseman cost?

- Boss34


If you only trade guys who fall out favor, you're going to have trouble.

Prospects do expire and most lose their value over time. The success rate on NHL picks is just not very high.

It's time to be aggressive about getting what they need.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Apr 24 @ 1:34 PM ET
Agreed.
However, if Reinbacher is gone, I'd consider trading back to later in the 1st and picking up additional 2nd rounders. I'd also consider trading up to get him around 8-10 if possible

- IonSabres

Hopefully they can pull a few picks when they trade Olofsson and Joker/Mitts. If they can add another higher 2nd or a late 1st I would consider a Forward at 13. So many good ones, a lot of good Defenseman are gonna fall into that 20-64 range. They could get 3 good Defenseman and a good Forward Prospect if Adams could pull it off. Restock your system in 2 rnds and then just fill the coufer.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 24 @ 1:39 PM ET
If you only trade guys who fall out favor, you're going to have trouble.

Prospects do expire and most lose their value over time. The success rate on NHL picks is just not very high.

It's time to be aggressive about getting what they need.

- Lunaion


I get exactly what your saying.

Just like usual, the Sabres are going to Hoard their guys.
Always build from within. It's the heartbeat of a small market budget team.

Sorry, that's not what you want to hear.

My whole point is: we shouldn't have to give too much to get a 4 and 5 defenseman.
Dahlin
Power
Samuelsson
Player x
Player y / joker
Boosh
Stillman.

Top line is set.
Top 3 centers are set.
Goalie A is set.

Who or what are you targeting? Pre deadline
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Apr 24 @ 1:40 PM ET
If you only trade guys who fall out favor, you're going to have trouble.

Prospects do expire and most lose their value over time. The success rate on NHL picks is just not very high.

It's time to be aggressive about getting what they need.

- Lunaion

Yes they do, especially when they start blocking each other. Sabres have IMO another year before that could start to happening.
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 24 @ 1:44 PM ET
Yes they do, especially when they start blocking each other. Sabres have IMO another year before that could start to happening.
- Buff36


So we have zero prospects on defense although I personally know Adams likes the big Russian defenseman.

Why cant we swap the abundance for forward prospects for some defenseman prospects?

homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres
Location: We want 1, FL
Joined: 02.24.2008

Apr 24 @ 1:45 PM ET
If you only trade guys who fall out favor, you're going to have trouble.

Prospects do expire and most lose their value over time. The success rate on NHL picks is just not very high.

It's time to be aggressive about getting what they need.

- Lunaion

we got a 5th for T.J. Brennan
Jerry D'Amigo for Luke Adam
Connor Hurley,Eric Cornel, Marcus Davidsson, Vaclav Karabacek and Justin Bailey crapped out

I could go on, that was second rd picks in a few years
lulags
Buffalo Sabres
Location: St Louis
Joined: 02.24.2007

Apr 24 @ 1:52 PM ET
Rochester getting pretty much dominated first 2 games of Calder Cup. Those guys could all benefit from another year down there
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Apr 24 @ 1:54 PM ET
So we have zero prospects on defense although I personally know Adams likes the big Russian defenseman.

Why cant we swap the abundance for forward prospects for some defenseman prospects?

- Boss34

Hopefully they can Boss, but sometimes those aren't the only thing that teams want in trades. Good young D prospects are like gold, especially the last couple years and the Sabres don't have any as currency atleast one's they would use and other teams want. As most can tell on here I am a huge proponent to building your D core up. Drafting D and having a strong prospect pool is important. Funny just go look at some of the playoff teams, and there D pools
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 24 @ 2:04 PM ET
Hopefully they can Boss, but sometimes those aren't the only thing that teams want in trades. Good young D prospects are like gold, especially the last couple years and the Sabres don't have any as currency atleast one's they would use and other teams want. As most can tell on here I am a huge proponent to building your D core up. Drafting D and having a strong prospect pool is important. Funny just go look at some of the playoff teams, and there D pools
- Buff36


Our d pool includes prospects like owen power.

Theres very few teams that wouldnt trade straight up defense for our group. It's going to be a machine.
75 minutes a game between the top 3.
All the important pk and pp times.
(2) #1 OA Studs

We need a 4 and maybe a 5 guy, that should cost too much.

I'm not sure why your so worried? They cant even make a move now. Other teams are still playing.

Are you targeting someone higher then the 20+ million $ top 3 guys? They cost $. We are a budget team.
Buff36
Buffalo Sabres
Joined: 10.13.2019

Apr 24 @ 2:11 PM ET
Our d pool includes prospects like owen power.

Theres very few teams that wouldnt trade straight up defense for our group. It's going to be a machine.
75 minutes a game between the top 3.
All the important pk and pp times.
(2) #1 OA Studs

We need a 4 and maybe a 5 guy, that should cost too much.

I'm not sure why your so worried? They cant even make a move now. Other teams are still playing.

Are you targeting someone higher then the 20+ million $ top 3 guys? They cost $. We are a budget team.

- Boss34

See that's where we see different, I don't think we have a sure fire Top 3. Samuelsson with his style gets hurt, might even consider him injury prone right now. He's not gonna always be there to eat 23min a game. I think we need a Dman that fits between Power and Samuelsson.
Lunaion
Joined: 05.23.2016

Apr 24 @ 2:15 PM ET
I get exactly what your saying.

Just like usual, the Sabres are going to Hoard their guys.
Always build from within. It's the heartbeat of a small market budget team.

Sorry, that's not what you want to hear.

My whole point is: we shouldn't have to give too much to get a 4 and 5 defenseman.
Dahlin
Power
Samuelsson
Player x
Player y / joker
Boosh
Stillman.

Top line is set.
Top 3 centers are set.
Goalie A is set.

Who or what are you targeting? Pre deadline

- Boss34


So you think they are going to address their D internally? With no one in the system?

Is Savoie the 3rd C? Krebs? Still questions as to how this fits together. Not a summer to sit around, imo.
gerbe75pts
Anaheim Ducks
Location: DRAFT COLE CAUFIELD AT 7!!!, CA
Joined: 09.03.2009

Apr 24 @ 2:16 PM ET
So we have zero prospects on defense although I personally know Adams likes the big Russian defenseman.

Why cant we swap the abundance for forward prospects for some defenseman prospects?

- Boss34


You have novikov,komarov coming in next year

And i wouldn't sleep on Metsa
Boss34
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BUFFALO , NY
Joined: 12.03.2015

Apr 24 @ 2:17 PM ET
See that's where we see different, I don't think we have a sure fire Top 3. Samuelsson with his style gets hurt, might even consider him injury prone right now. He's not gonna always be there to eat 23min a game. I think we need a Dman that fits between Power and Samuelsson.
- Buff36


That's fair, appreciate your thoughts.

So your looking for a #3

Dahlin
Power
Player x
Samuelsson
Player y / joker
Boosh
Stillman

You may need to move a favorable recent forward pick.
The big 3 from 2022 seam unlikely IMO.

Rosen or the 2023 1st rounder.

Would be nice to see this years pick moved for a player, really signifies the draft 1st position in these parts for a decade.

That seems unlikely though. Ka is conservative by nature.

How about the bills..
Thinking wr. Big dt and oline with the 1st 3 picks.

Buddy has us swapping 27 with Arizona's 2nd and dhop.
Add a 4th as well.
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