jd250
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From my perspective, it's not about wanting to trade Hart. Rather it's about speculating whom the Flyers might trade. - MJL
The fact is there is zero chance Hart gets traded, he is a franchise goalie and they are very hard to come by. How many true franchise goalies are there in this league? Think about it. Also according to reports Briere is going to be aggressive in this draft and trade up into the top 3 or 4 as I have posted many times that he should. He knows this team is in much better shape than people on here think they are, and if they get that franchise top center they are right back in business with Gauthier coming also. You don’t ever trade a franchise goalie when you are closer than people think. |
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LOL. It's not hypocrisy. You're ignoring the entirety of the conversation. Ersson may be also past his peak but will he be signed to the high level contract that Hart will likely need to be signed to? If you want to look at only one factor, ignore the rest and call it hypocrisy, go ahead. Agree to disagree. - MJL
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jd250
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https://twitter.com/TonyAndrock/status/1646896233036824578?t=3DrlgVVMwz1U65Cvo6WerQ&s=19
This would be wild if Hexy is brought back in some role, wow - Trox88
I highly doubt it, I think Hextall is done as a GM, should go back to scouting goalie prospects. Another failure for Hexy and in record time too! He completely screwed up this team starting with his debacle at the expansion draft. However I’m sure it’s not his fault. Let the excuse making commence! |
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The logic I'm applying is that he can do both. The job of coaching the team for which he was hired for and is being paid a lot of money to do. While also reviewing the video of the game and discussing it with the GM. - MJL
I have seen on here in the past that you have criticized the Flyers for not developing coaches (rightly, IMO). Now, Torts uses the last few games of the season, after being eliminated from playoffs, to allow his assistant coaches to grow and gain experience. You may not agree with the method, but that was the stated goal.
It was fine, IMO. Didn’t change anything from my perspective.
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I wonder if Comcast will interview Burke & Hextall |
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ClaudeFather
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Location: west haven, CT Joined: 08.14.2015
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In my opinion, you don't trade Hart just to trade him. The biggest reason you do look to trade him is for the value of the return that you might get. - MJL
Breaking stuff on Flyers Buzz today 😂 |
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jd250
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I have seen on here in the past that you have criticized the Flyers for not developing coaches (rightly, IMO). Now, Torts uses the last few games of the season, after being eliminated from playoffs, to allow his assistant coaches to grow and gain experience. You may not agree with the method, but that was the stated goal.
It was fine, IMO. Didn’t change anything from my perspective. - NC Flyers Fan
The fact that anyone would criticize Torts for doing this just shows how ignorant they are! |
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2Real
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Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA Joined: 07.14.2007
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so who are we shooting for 1st overall in 2024? what are the top prospects |
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Bob Habib
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And Minnesota is paying almost 13 million to 2 players who do not play for them team, and then pay $14 million to them the next two years.
Plus it will be tough to give new more expensive contracts to the 13 free agents. - WhiskeyMan
Those were chuck feltcher signings though, as hard as it is to believe that ol CF overpays on every deal that he touches
It is impressive that even with that immense amount of wasted cap space, guerin still put a more competitive team on the ice than the Flyers did.
That's just sad |
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Phillywhiteout
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Location: West Chester, PA Joined: 08.11.2020
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I think the idea is that Hart's next contract will be $$$ and the team will be in a rebuilding state for the majority of it. By the time the team is ready to turn a corner he's probably gonna be past his peak.
Not to mention that having a good goalie around is not conducive to maximizing draft position during the next little while.
Plus Ersson seems decent and Fedotov could be in the mix starting next season. - Tomahawk This is just a dumb comment. Yeah, there will be lots of bucks in his next contract, but to say that he will be past his peak by the time the team is ready to turn the corner is just imbecilic. Thanks! |
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so who are we shooting for 1st overall in 2024? what are the top prospects - 2Real
Hire Dallas Eakins who suddenly got available. Torts went all in, but he is slightly worse than the AV & Yahoo Yeo pairing. Looking at it with tank glasses 🤓 |
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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Burke is skyrocketing to the top of the list for the Flyers Search Committee. - StepfordSam
Imagine all the spicy pressers... Torts followed by the Burkie main event. |
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jd250
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This is just a dumb comment. Yeah, there will be lots of bucks in his next contract, but to say that he will be past his peak by the time the team is ready to turn the corner is just imbecilic. Thanks! - Phillywhiteout
Spot on! Goalies are in their prime at 28 years old, Hart still has a few years to get there and if Briere does what I think he will do the Flyers will in fact be ready when Hart is in prime. |
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Phillywhiteout
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Location: West Chester, PA Joined: 08.11.2020
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Hexy axed! Guess it's not just the idiot Flyers that don't like his GMing style. I doubt he gets another gig as an NHL GM. Perhaps as an assistant GM somewhere, but he has shown that he just isn't a competent NHL GM. Thanks for ruining the Penwhines in your short tenure there though! Love it! |
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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I guess so. But if you do trade him it better be for a boatload and I have no confidence of that. It’ll be a salary dump in view of the next contract. - Hextall271
Trade value of goalies usually isn't measured in boatloads. Maybe a high 1st like Cory Schneider went for would be the absolute ceiling. |
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Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi. Joined: 02.04.2009
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This is just a dumb comment. Yeah, there will be lots of bucks in his next contract, but to say that he will be past his peak by the time the team is ready to turn the corner is just imbecilic. Thanks! - Phillywhiteout
If it takes the Flyers a good 5-6 seasons to build this thing up Hart will be in his 30s by then. |
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https://twitter.com/TonyAndrock/status/1646896233036824578?t=3DrlgVVMwz1U65Cvo6WerQ&s=19
This would be wild if Hexy is brought back in some role, wow - Trox88
Holy (frank), this board would implode.
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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The fact is there is zero chance Hart gets traded, he is a franchise goalie and they are very hard to come by. How many true franchise goalies are there in this league? Think about it. Also according to reports Briere is going to be aggressive in this draft and trade up into the top 3 or 4 as I have posted many times that he should. He knows this team is in much better shape than people on here think they are, and if they get that franchise top center they are right back in business with Gauthier coming also. You don’t ever trade a franchise goalie when you are closer than people think. - jd250
Think about what you're saying. The FACT is that there is zero chance Hart gets traded. That may be your opinion but that is not a fact. I have news for you. Hart is not a franchise goaltender. Reliable sources such as Eliotte Friedman disagree with you that there is zero chance.
Briere is going be aggressive and trade up? Or is he going to try and trade up?
So now you're back on the quick fix horse. Good luck. |
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I highly doubt it, I think Hextall is done as a GM, should go back to scouting goalie prospects. Another failure for Hexy and in record time too! He completely screwed up this team starting with his debacle at the expansion draft. However I’m sure it’s not his fault. Let the excuse making commence! - jd250
I highly doubt this happens but it doesn't say as GM, just some front office position. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Breaking stuff on Flyers Buzz today 😂 - ClaudeFather
It's difficult for most on this board but sometimes it is just that simple. |
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backfire
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Location: Lancaster, PA Joined: 08.07.2018
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I'd like to congratulate you guys on re-hiring Ron Hextall as GM. I think he'll be a great asset to your organization.  - SuperHenderson13
Hextall will never get another NHL job for what he did to the 2 PA franchises. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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I have seen on here in the past that you have criticized the Flyers for not developing coaches (rightly, IMO). Now, Torts uses the last few games of the season, after being eliminated from playoffs, to allow his assistant coaches to grow and gain experience. You may not agree with the method, but that was the stated goal.
It was fine, IMO. Didn’t change anything from my perspective. - NC Flyers Fan
I would disagree wholeheartedly that the reason for his doing so was to grow and gain experience for his assistants. In my opinion, his reason is strictly ego driven as he sees himself as more than just the head coach. He sees himself as the savior of this team and his true objective is to exert influence over the future direction of this team. It's a frightening scenario. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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Hextall will never get another NHL job for what he did to the 2 PA franchises. - backfire
Hextall will get another job in the NHL. If he wants one. |
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MJL
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Location: Candyland, PA Joined: 09.20.2007
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I highly doubt this happens but it doesn't say as GM, just some front office position. - rayc16
If I was Hextall, the way they treated him, I wouldn't want to come back here.
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https://twitter.com/TonyAndrock/status/1646896233036824578?t=3DrlgVVMwz1U65Cvo6WerQ&s=19
This would be wild if Hexy is brought back in some role, wow - Trox88
Oh my…. It’s going to be an off-season to keep in touch. Hummm….
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