Tony D to his credit owned his game, interesting

Coots-

I am not coming back and going to save the organization, we need to do the rebuild the right way, it is on the players to shorten the timeline if we can

You have to post it a third time for it to be true.
- mickel25

…and click your heals together

Tony D to his credit owned his game, interesting
- wcorvette

Hard to know what to make of this whole thing. They both have reputations as bumholes. Even though I dislike Angelo’s politics I’ve got to admit he comes off as more credible, mature and likable than coach. Until there’s some credible report of wrong doing by Angelo it just looks like the coach is being an idiot. What’s the point of holding him out these last few games? How’s it improve the player? It certainly won’t make it any easier to move him if that’s what they want to do.

Of course not and what has transpired over the last few years has shown why he was tuning people out in this organization, imo.
- rayc16

That was his greatest strength - not listening to the "advisors"

If I was Hextall, the way they treated him, I wouldn't want to come back here.
- MJL

I did hear he was going to offer top 2 draft pick consulting services through a new venture. So should you have a top 2 pick, you can source 27 and he will storm into your war room - ignore the scouts and then draft a bust.

It is a fee based service, but one he does specialize in.

That was his greatest strength - not listening to the "advisors"
- corduroy

Howd that work out?

Howd that work out?
- Joe Nardone

How has it worked out listening to them?

How has it worked out listening to them?
- corduroy

Touche, sir

Advice from the same advisors who thought feltcher would be a good GM 😅

Carter Hart is not a franchise goalie.
- Tomahawk

I see him as a good, not great, goalie right now. I’m curious, how does he rank among other goalies this year? What do you think his next contract looks like?

How has it worked out listening to them?
- corduroy

Ask Dallas and or CO. They got one of the two guys Hexy did not want cause he was convinced his overrated young d were actually underrated.

Why would anyone here defend Ron Hextall as a GM? Why?

He was an avg to below avg GM here and is now 0 for 2 in GM stints. He kinda lacked the courage off the ice as a gm that he had on the ice as a player. Maybe now, he will have the time to figure out how many more years he was gonna need here before his team was actually competitive.

Was his strategy to rebuild here or go for it?
I would say neither.

He actually had a healthy Crosby and Malkin this year and still missed the playoffs.

Ask Dallas and or CO. They got one of the two guys Hexy did not want cause he was convinced his overrated young d were actually underrated.

Why would anyone here defend Ron Hextall as a GM? Why?

He was an avg to below avg GM here and is now 0 for 2 in GM stints. He kinda lacked the courage off the ice as a gm that he had on the ice as a player. Maybe now, he will have the time to figure out how many more years he was gonna need here before his team was actually competitive.

Was his strategy to rebuild here or go for it?
I would say neither.

He actually had a healthy Crosby and Malkin this year and still missed the playoffs.
- Joe Nardone

He was a poor GM and his drafting was even worse than his product that he put on the ice.
I won't hlame hextall for the NoPa pick. NoPa was a highly touted pick at the time but I do blame him for the JOB wasted pick when he should have taken Miller. Also the rubstov pick but I don't think that anybody knew that Robertson would be such a game changer.
I like his konecny pick but sanheim is also a questionable pick as well with Tuch and pasta still on the board, although again, pasta has far exceeded his expectation.
It would just be really nice for us to finally find a diamond in the rough with one of our later picks.
Could gedron be our diamond?
I'll say it again, ol feltch overpaid on every single contract that he signed but, imo, his drafting has looked pretty solid to this point. But do we truly give that credit to flahr?
We may find that answer soon with the upcoming draft

He was a poor GM and his drafting was even worse than his product that he put on the ice.
I won't hlame hextall for the NoPa pick. NoPa was a highly touted pick at the time but I do blame him for the JOB wasted pick when he should have taken Miller. Also the rubstov pick but I don't think that anybody knew that Robertson would be such a game changer.
I like his konecny pick but sanheim is also a questionable pick as well with Tuch and pasta still on the board, although again, pasta has far exceeded his expectation.
It would just be really nice for us to finally find a diamond in the rough with one of our later picks.
Could gedron be our diamond?
I'll say it again, ol feltch overpaid on every single contract that he signed but, imo, his drafting has looked pretty solid to this point. But do we truly give that credit to flahr?
We may find that answer soon with the upcoming draft
- Bob Habib

I am no Hextall fan at all but the Sanheim pick was a good one. Plucking out pasta is revisionist history, in retrospect he should have gone what #1 that year (not sure if it’s McDavid year).

I am no Hextall fan at all but the Sanheim pick was a good one. Plucking out pasta is revisionist history, in retrospect he should have gone what #1 that year (not sure if it’s McDavid year).
- ClaudeFather

Was it a weak draft that year? Or has this franchise just crippled the development of another prospect? Sanheim has shown potential but so fsr he has been a little above mediocre to me.
But yeah... pasta has above and beyond exceeded all expectations. I just wish that our scouts could identify a player like that for once.
Konecny may be the closest thing to that and, admittedly, that was a hexy pick and a damn good one.
I hope that Frost continued to develop so that I can eat crow about another hexy pick. I really do think that Frost will be an impact player next season though.
His development in the second half of the season was very nice to see during such a poopty year

He was a poor GM and his drafting was even worse than his product that he put on the ice.
I won't hlame hextall for the NoPa pick. NoPa was a highly touted pick at the time but I do blame him for the JOB wasted pick when he should have taken Miller. Also the rubstov pick but I don't think that anybody knew that Robertson would be such a game changer.
I like his konecny pick but sanheim is also a questionable pick as well with Tuch and pasta still on the board, although again, pasta has far exceeded his expectation.
It would just be really nice for us to finally find a diamond in the rough with one of our later picks.
Could gedron be our diamond?
I'll say it again, ol feltch overpaid on every single contract that he signed but, imo, his drafting has looked pretty solid to this point. But do we truly give that credit to flahr?
We may find that answer soon with the upcoming draft
- Bob Habib

What? 1C Noah Cates was drafted in what, the 5th round?

Also, I feel like Fletch's draft results are similar to Hextall's, Good players, no game breakers.

I see him as a good, not great, goalie right now. I’m curious, how does he rank among other goalies this year? What do you think his next contract looks like?
- Dkos

He pretty much had his best season in the NHL but was still only #15 in goals saved above expected. So yeah... good but not great pretty much sums him up atm.

I think he would get something along the lines of the Sanheim contract.

Morgan Frost had the 3rd best $/P of any player on a standard contract.

https://www.capfriendly.c.../2023/season/all/standard

What? 1C Noah Cates was drafted in what, the 5th round?

Also, I feel like Fletch's draft results are similar to Hextall's, Good players, no game breakers.
- rayc16

I feel like feltch has pulled more mid to late round picks than hextall did. If attard, andrae, Kaplan, and Brink develop nicely then CF has already outdone hextall. Add I'm gedron, who may be the biggest surprise. Wouldn't that be nice?!
The biggest blunder of CFs drafting will be cutter over jiricek. That just my opinion but I don't see cutter ever being the better pick out of the two. Again, I hope I am wrong, but that's just my opinion at this time
But now I have to ask.. why do you think that hextall and CFs drafting were on par with one another?

Morgan Frost had the 3rd best $/P of any player on a standard contract.

https://www.capfriendly.c.../2023/season/all/standard
- Feanor

Wow. That's a solid production. I wonder what his next contract will look like now..

And also, it'd mind boggling that Torts still doesn't seem to be a fan of frosty.
It kind of pisses me off. I won't lie

I feel like feltch has pulled more mid to late round picks than hextall did. If attard, andrae, Kaplan, and Brink develop nicely then CF has already outdone hextall. Add I'm gedron, who may be the biggest surprise. Wouldn't that be nice?!
The biggest blunder of CFs drafting will be cutter over jiricek. That just my opinion but I don't see cutter ever being the better pick out of the two. Again, I hope I am wrong, but that's just my opinion at this time
But now I have to ask.. why do you think that hextall and CFs drafting were on par with one another?
- Bob Habib

You're currently comparing the known to the ifs. If you're going to compare that, then Hextall is far and away in the lead. Of course that's not valid.

Lavy also available now.

You're currently comparing the known to the ifs. If you're going to compare that, then Hextall is far and away in the lead. Of course that's not valid.
- MJL

Please remind me of who hextall drafted in the mid to late rounds. I know frost and Konecny but I can't remember who else beyond the first rounds. Lindblom? Who else?
I don't recall him drafting well

Coots-

I am not coming back and going to save the organization, we need to do the rebuild the right way, it is on the players to shorten the timeline if we can
- wcorvette

Amazing….seemingly everyone in the organization understands the need for a rebuild. The last two to reach that conclusion were Fletcher and Scott.

I am no Hextall fan at all but the Sanheim pick was a good one. Plucking out pasta is revisionist history, in retrospect he should have gone what #1 that year (not sure if it’s McDavid year).
- ClaudeFather

Ekblad went #1 in 2014. Pasternak went something like 24 and Sanheim was 17th. From what I recall, there wasn’t any buzz about either player leading up to the draft and obviously it’s all hindsight anyhow. They weren’t the only team that passed on Pasternak either. I thought and still think the Flyers have done well with that pick.

Amazing….seemingly everyone in the organization understands the need for a rebuild. The last two to reach that conclusion were Fletcher and Scott.
- Sublime55

Like Torts or not, but I think he’s was very influential in getting Comcast to see that major changes had to be made. He walked in the door contradicting everything Chuck said. I don’t that that would have happened with a young first time coach.