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Sublime55
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 07.24.2012

Apr 14 @ 6:54 PM ET
Well this disconcerting. Atkinson says he went back to Columbus to get a second opinion on his injury from doctors he trusts. This certainly won’t help to quell the debate about the Flyers Training Staff.

https://www.crossingbroad...re-of-his-injury.html?amp
Dkos
Season Ticket Holder
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Gritty, PA
Joined: 01.15.2007

Apr 14 @ 7:13 PM ET
He pretty much had his best season in the NHL but was still only #15 in goals saved above expected. So yeah... good but not great pretty much sums him up atm.

I think he would get something along the lines of the Sanheim contract.

- Tomahawk


Really? Over $6 mil? I’ll pass. There are a lot of really good teams out there doing just fine spending less than that on both their goalies combined.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 14 @ 7:14 PM ET
Please remind me of who hextall drafted in the mid to late rounds. I know frost and Konecny but I can't remember who else beyond the first rounds. Lindblom? Who else?
I don't recall him drafting well

- Bob Habib


Carter Hart was a pretty nice pick
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 14 @ 7:17 PM ET
Really? Over $6 mil? I’ll pass. There are a lot of really good teams out there doing just fine spending less than that on both their goalies combined.
- Dkos


$6M might be on the low end. They'd mostly be buying up UFA years from him.

Guessing he'd probably get more from the Flyers than on the open market, tho.
Flybynight88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.29.2010

Apr 14 @ 7:27 PM ET
Looks like Debrincat will not be signing with Ottawa
Trox88
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.12.2020

Apr 14 @ 7:28 PM ET
Please remind me of who hextall drafted in the mid to late rounds. I know frost and Konecny but I can't remember who else beyond the first rounds. Lindblom? Who else?
I don't recall him drafting well

- Bob Habib


One of the great weaknesses of Hexy was his inability to draft centers. He certainly tried and used high picks- Laberge, Rubtsov, O'Brien, Frost, and Patrick. He was decent at LHD, winger and goalie.

I'll be curious after the next 3 yrs how Fletcher's drafts compares to Hexy's.
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Apr 14 @ 7:34 PM ET
Carter Hart was a pretty nice pick
- Tomahawk

Indeed he was! Nice recall! I meant it when I say that my memory slips me lol
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Apr 14 @ 7:40 PM ET
Looks like Debrincat will not be signing with Ottawa
- Flybynight88

As bad as that is to stomach because of what they moved to get him, I think that’s the right call. They have a ton of forwards, cap could be used better.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Apr 14 @ 7:40 PM ET
Please remind me of who hextall drafted in the mid to late rounds. I know frost and Konecny but I can't remember who else beyond the first rounds. Lindblom? Who else?
I don't recall him drafting well

- Bob Habib


You mentioned Gauthier in your comments. Either way, there aren't any mid to late round picks drafted by Fletcher playing a regular role on the team. It seems like counting chickens before they're hatched to me.
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Apr 14 @ 7:42 PM ET
One of the great weaknesses of Hexy was his inability to draft centers. He certainly tried and used high picks- Laberge, Rubtsov, O'Brien, Frost, and Patrick. He was decent at LHD, winger and goalie.

I'll be curious after the next 3 yrs how Fletcher's drafts compares to Hexy's.

- Trox88

Like MJL said, CFs picks are still unproven but they look to have solid futures. York seems solid, even though many wanted Caufield. Brink looks good, especially after coming off of surgery. Andrae looks very promising. Attard looks like a pleasant surprise. Wisdom is a project but has potential. And gedron may still be the steel of that draft if he continues this level of play. I know that the Q is high scoring but DAMN that kid can put the biscuit in the basket. I really hope that it translates to the next level.
Foerester has potential to be a cornerstone and he lookes GREAT in his small sample size. Desnoyers looks like he could be the next Laughton as a Swiss army knife.
All in all I give ol chuck a solid A for his drafting so far. It's one (and the only) thing that I think that he was good at. But time will tell.....
And as philly fans, we have nothing but time at this point.
As we always say... maybe next year

Remind me who drafted ersson, kosolov, and fedotov.... I could look it up but I know someone is smart enough to remember off the top of their heads. Plus my potty break is almost over
Those are 3 potential solid picks as well.
I think fedotov was a while back. Hexy drafted errson? And CF took kosolov? Am I remembering right?
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 14 @ 7:50 PM ET
I feel like feltch has pulled more mid to late round picks than hextall did. If attard, andrae, Kaplan, and Brink develop nicely then CF has already outdone hextall. Add I'm gedron, who may be the biggest surprise. Wouldn't that be nice?!
The biggest blunder of CFs drafting will be cutter over jiricek. That just my opinion but I don't see cutter ever being the better pick out of the two. Again, I hope I am wrong, but that's just my opinion at this time
But now I have to ask.. why do you think that hextall and CFs drafting were on par with one another?

- Bob Habib

Wasn’t that what was being said about Hextall drafted players for years? I don’t think it’s currently better but I will give it time.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 14 @ 7:54 PM ET
As bad as that is to stomach because of what they moved to get him, I think that’s the right call. They have a ton of forwards, cap could be used better.
- ClaudeFather


They should get quite a haul for him.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 14 @ 8:00 PM ET
Wasn’t that what was being said about Hextall drafted players for years? I don’t think it’s currently better but I will give it time.
- rayc16


Yeah, same with Homer's promising dcorps too. You just never know how things will turn out.

If you're a Flyers fans you're pretty much expecting some level of disappointment tho, lol.
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 14 @ 8:01 PM ET
Please remind me of who hextall drafted in the mid to late rounds. I know frost and Konecny but I can't remember who else beyond the first rounds. Lindblom? Who else?
I don't recall him drafting well

- Bob Habib

Lindblom 5th round, Cates 5th round, Ersson 5th round. Decent late round pics. I looked after 3rd round because you said mid to late. Fedotov and Laczynski TBD to see if they can have NHL careers.

Not promoting or defending just listing players that became more than a tweener.
Bob Habib
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 08.01.2020

Apr 14 @ 8:02 PM ET
Wasn’t that what was being said about Hextall drafted players for years? I don’t think it’s currently better but I will give it time.
- rayc16

Fair argument but I didn't see as much potential in those players as I do with the current crop of kids. But I agree that only tike will tell

But Emil does look like the real deal so far. He is an exciting player to watch and has made a very nice transition to the AHL
rayc16
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Free Frosty
Joined: 06.29.2006

Apr 14 @ 8:03 PM ET
Yeah, same with Homer's promising dcorps too. You just never know how things will turn out.

If you're a Flyers fans you're pretty much expecting some level of disappointment tho, lol.

- Tomahawk


There’s also the fact that Flyer fans are never satisfied with good players, always think they should be better.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 14 @ 8:07 PM ET
There’s also the fact that Flyer fans are never satisfied with good players, always think they should be better.
- rayc16


Yeah, it's just been a long time since they've drafted and developed any real high-end talent. There would be less nitpicking if they had turned out just one or two elite players over the years.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Apr 14 @ 8:24 PM ET
They should get quite a haul for him.
- Tomahawk

For his rights, what exactly is this haul going to look like?
Flybynight88
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 01.29.2010

Apr 14 @ 8:38 PM ET
For his rights, what exactly is this haul going to look like?
- ClaudeFather

I think a 1st, 3rd and a blue chip prospect. He wants 10 mil per. Personally I don't think he is worth it. Maybe if he was a center.
Don Nachbaur
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.01.2021

Apr 14 @ 8:52 PM ET
Yeah, it's just been a long time since they've drafted and developed any real high-end talent. There would be less nitpicking if they had turned out just one or two elite players over the years.
- Tomahawk


Perfect summation here!
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Apr 14 @ 8:53 PM ET
For his rights, what exactly is this haul going to look like?
- ClaudeFather


TDA got three draft picks, I would start there if I were the Sens.
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Apr 14 @ 9:05 PM ET
I think a 1st, 3rd and a blue chip prospect. He wants 10 mil per. Personally I don't think he is worth it. Maybe if he was a center.
- Flybynight88

I don’t think they get close to that
ClaudeFather
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: west haven, CT
Joined: 08.14.2015

Apr 14 @ 9:10 PM ET
TDA got three draft picks, I would start there if I were the Sens.
- Tomahawk

One of the dumbest rights trade maybe in history lol
jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 14 @ 9:13 PM ET
I did hear he was going to offer top 2 draft pick consulting services through a new venture. So should you have a top 2 pick, you can source 27 and he will storm into your war room - ignore the scouts and then draft a bust.

It is a fee based service, but one he does specialize in.

- Joe Nardone

jd250
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 01.12.2018

Apr 14 @ 9:15 PM ET
One of the dumbest rights trade maybe in history lol
- ClaudeFather

The thing is, if you are the Flyers you really can't trade him given what they gave up and they would be selling extremely low. The best bet is he comes back next year, pleays good for 3 months, no issues, and the Flyers can unload him around the deadline. If the Flyers can get a 2nd next trade deadline, that would be good considering.
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