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Jkuzzi
Joined: 12.14.2016

Apr 21 @ 12:23 PM ET
I'm hearing Gillis being tied to Philly.
- Marwood


Gillis would turn them around
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 21 @ 12:37 PM ET
As polarizing as Gillis is in here... top 10 worst GMs in the history of the NHL he is not.

That article is from 2014... hence no Benning

- NewYorkNuck

Keenan by a mile.

https://thehockeywriters....ranking-general-managers/

Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 21 @ 12:39 PM ET
Is that because Benning is linked to Calgary?
- NewYorkNuck

Even if only one of those comes true, it will be glorious.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 21 @ 12:39 PM ET
Benning by a mile.

https://thehockeywriters....ranking-general-managers/


- LordHumungous

Yup.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 21 @ 12:40 PM ET


Smaller staff means more money available for an OEL buyout

- NewYorkNuck

Zero chance
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 21 @ 12:45 PM ET
Zero chance
- CanuckDon

They liked the defense going into this past season, so why change it up too much. Plus OEL is a leader in the room.
TJTD
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 02.06.2007

Apr 21 @ 12:54 PM ET
Gillis would turn them around
- Jkuzzi


A large piece of Gillis success came from the pieces he got maturing at just the right time, and Nonis had cleared a huge amount of cap space that trade deadline and then got canned. So Gillis came in with a strong core in place - Sedins, Kesler, BXA, Edler, Salo, Mitchell, Hansen and had cap space to add some difference makers.
Gillis promptly threw that free cap at Sundin 2x$10m which was basically 2-3m more than anyone good in the league and Sundin didn't show up until Xmas which was a major distraction. He signed Demitra but that flamed out somehow

Good move was not to re-sign Naslund, and he got deals done with Sedins. Notably Burkie was also on a plane to sign the Sedins literally just before they signed with the Canucks so that could have broken either way.

I don't see him as all that great - right guy at the right time to capitalise on the Burke and Nonis years. The entire Luongo Captain thing was a mess, Sundin was a mess, celebrating like he won the Stanley Cup after winning Game 4 (Canucks up 3-1 games) was amateur at best. I think the fact that he isn't back in the show is prof enough he was a flake at the right place at the right time
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Apr 21 @ 12:54 PM ET
They liked the defense going into this past season, so why change it up too much. Plus OEL is a leader in the room.
- Marwood


He's another year older, so another year stronger and faster
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

Apr 21 @ 12:56 PM ET
Zero chance
- CanuckDon


Ya, clearly don't think that's gonna happen... but on the outside chance they get Bedard, maybe they could convince Aqua to buy him out
Jkuzzi
Joined: 12.14.2016

Apr 21 @ 12:57 PM ET
Ya, clearly don't think that's gonna happen... but on the outside chance they get Bedard, maybe they could convince Aqua to buy him out
- NewYorkNuck


They'll get Bedard. Believe
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 21 @ 1:02 PM ET
A large piece of Gillis success came from the pieces he got maturing at just the right time, and Nonis had cleared a huge amount of cap space that trade deadline and then got canned. So Gillis came in with a strong core in place - Sedins, Kesler, BXA, Edler, Salo, Mitchell, Hansen and had cap space to add some difference makers.
Gillis promptly threw that free cap at Sundin 2x$10m which was basically 2-3m more than anyone good in the league and Sundin didn't show up until Xmas which was a major distraction. He signed Demitra but that flamed out somehow

Good move was not to re-sign Naslund, and he got deals done with Sedins. Notably Burkie was also on a plane to sign the Sedins literally just before they signed with the Canucks so that could have broken either way.

I don't see him as all that great - right guy at the right time to capitalise on the Burke and Nonis years. The entire Luongo Captain thing was a mess, Sundin was a mess, celebrating like he won the Stanley Cup after winning Game 4 (Canucks up 3-1 games) was amateur at best. I think the fact that he isn't back in the show is prof enough he was a flake at the right place at the right time

- TJTD

K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Apr 21 @ 1:03 PM ET
They'll get Bedard. Believe
- Jkuzzi

Honestly, that would be fantastic. Keep all the generational talent in Canada.
Jkuzzi
Joined: 12.14.2016

Apr 21 @ 1:05 PM ET
Honestly, that would be fantastic. Keep all the generational talent in Canada.
- K-man25


Order your Bedard jersey now. Beat the rush
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Apr 21 @ 1:11 PM ET
Order your Bedard jersey now. Beat the rush
- Jkuzzi

For which team?
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

Apr 21 @ 1:27 PM ET
Order your Dumba jersey now. Beat the rush
- Jkuzzi


Already ordered.


VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Apr 21 @ 1:35 PM ET
Already ordered.



- LordHumungous

LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 21 @ 1:54 PM ET
I'm hearing Gillis being tied to Philly.
- Marwood

That would be awesome!! Most successful GM in Canucks history.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 21 @ 2:07 PM ET
That would be awesome!! Most successful GM in Canucks history.
- LeftCoaster

That's an oxymoron.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Apr 21 @ 2:09 PM ET
They liked the defense going into this past season, so why change it up too much. Plus OEL is a leader in the room.
- Marwood

The owner won’t pay simple as that. We are stuck with OEL
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 21 @ 2:10 PM ET
That's an oxymoron.
- Marwood

But not untrue.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Apr 21 @ 2:13 PM ET
The owner won’t pay simple as that. We are stuck with OEL
- CanuckDon

That’s right up there with the Cam Neely trade.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 21 @ 2:22 PM ET
I’m back after my work hiatus lol

So using this as a template only…

https://canucksarmy.com/n...ass-offers-defenders-2023

I’ve gone on about UFA D & what I’d do. Starting with Gavrikov for a fair price in 2023. He adds defensive top 4 LHD depth. Graves is another target but my gut says he might cost more. It requires a winger going out either Boeser or Garland. That’s where I find cap space. Better if Myers could be moved instead but he’s gone anyways in 2024 freeing up cap for a 2024 RHD UFA. Peace is the gold standard with other good options. If this is the plan then OEL would be bought out then & not this offseason.

2024/25 D
Hughes Pesce
Gavrikov Hronek
Hirose Bear
Rathbone

Bear shouldn’t cost more than 2m or much north of that.

Devon Toews as top 4 LHD would also work but again probably too rich for us. That will be a pricey D corp whomever makes it up. 2024/25 cap space should see a hefty bump once the players escrow is paid off. Haven’t gone totally in depth on the salary structure but guessing the wingers will need better cap management control.

Summary:
2024/25 should really be the season to get serious about being a playoff team & then some. The 2023/24 offseason will give us a better idea on how Mgmt approaches the coming seasons.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 21 @ 2:25 PM ET
But not untrue.
- LeftCoaster

I'm not high enough to get into this with you right now.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Apr 21 @ 2:26 PM ET
I’m back after my work hiatus lol

So using this as a template only…

https://canucksarmy.com/n...ass-offers-defenders-2023

I’ve gone on about UFA D & what I’d do. Starting with Gavrikov for a fair price in 2023. He adds defensive top 4 LHD depth. Graves is another target but my gut says he might cost more. It requires a winger going out either Boeser or Garland. That’s where I find cap space. Better if Myers could be moved instead but he’s gone anyways in 2024 freeing up cap for a 2024 RHD UFA. Peace is the gold standard with other good options. If this is the plan then OEL would be bought out then & not this offseason.

2024/25 D
Hughes Pesce
Gavrikov Hronek
Hirose Bear
Rathbone

Bear shouldn’t cost more than 2m or much north of that.

Devon Toews as top 4 LHD would also work but again probably too rich for us. That will be a pricey D corp whomever makes it up. 2024/25 cap space should see a hefty bump once the players escrow is paid off. Haven’t gone totally in depth on the salary structure but guessing the wingers will need better cap management control.

Summary:
2024/25 should really be the season to get serious about being a playoff team & then some. The 2023/24 offseason will give us a better idea on how Mgmt approaches the coming seasons.

- Nighthawk

Canucks Army is pure trash!
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Apr 21 @ 2:30 PM ET
Canucks Army is pure trash!
- Marwood

Idc about CA just using the UFA D that are coming up. I make my own diagnoses or projections.
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