11th. My guess of 9-10th was close. Your bigger range guess of 11-13th had more leeway but far off at the top. I also quantified my guess that playing Demko 1/2 the time for my guess. I further said we would be in the Bedard lotto then said we’d win Fantilli. I elaborated in depth not you lol.
- Nighthawk

Actually, you picked 8-10th, not 9-10.
I quantified my pick on the fact that the Canucks had a super easy schedule, compared to the other teams in their category.

Speaking of the Canucks super easy schedule, I can't believe how easily Canucks fans get fooled about meaningless games, you should hear Lefty and how he appears to be the new cheerleader captain, pathetic.

Actually, you picked 8-10th, not 9-10.
I quantified my puck on the fact that the Canucks had a super easy schedule, compared to the other teams in their category.

Speaking of the Canucks super easy schedule, I can't believe how easily Canucks fans get fooled about meaningless games, you should hear Lefty and how he appears to be the new cheerleader captain, pathetic.
- Reubenkincade

Then poor Brock should have taken a leave of absence, to spend time with his dad.

Ffs, bunch of buttercups
- Reubenkincade

Bingo

Actually, you picked 8-10th, not 9-10.
I quantified my pick on the fact that the Canucks had a super easy schedule, compared to the other teams in their category.

Speaking of the Canucks super easy schedule, I can't believe how easily Canucks fans get fooled about meaningless games, you should hear Lefty and how he appears to be the new cheerleader captain, pathetic.
- Reubenkincade

Semantics aside do you honestly believe picking 11th is any worse or better than 8th to 10th?

Imo for those who want Reinbacher earlier he was a reach. More suited 10-12th. That said if they pick a C & pass on RHD that will say a ton.

Bigger issue is dumping cap &/or getting more 2nds.

Semantics aside do you honestly believe picking 11th is any worse or better than 8th to 10th?

Imo for those who want Reinbacher earlier he was a reach. More suited 10-12th. That said if they pick a C & pass on RHD that will say a ton.

Bigger issue is dumping cap &/or getting more 2nds.
- Nighthawk

PA: There are other ways to build besides the draft.

You guys need to listen to what the GM says. He wants a competitive team now, not in four or five years. If they really cared about the draft they would have not traded picks and made a late season push to win games.

I am looking at the existing rosters of teams that have twenty-five-year-old centers and Dmen and paying almost no attention to the upcoming draft pool.

PA: There are other ways to build besides the draft.

You guys need to listen to what the GM says. He wants a competitive team now, not in four or five years. If they really cared about the draft they would have not traded picks and made a late season push to win games.

I am looking at the existing rosters of teams that have twenty-five-year-old centers and Dmen and paying almost no attention to the upcoming draft pool.
- VANTEL

I just (frank)ing hope that if they don't win the lottery they don't move the pick until they're on the clock.

It's fine to have some potential agreements in place but you must go into the draft having at least a few prospects you're in love with.

Semantics aside do you honestly believe picking 11th is any worse or better than 8th to 10th?

Imo for those who want Reinbacher earlier he was a reach. More suited 10-12th. That said if they pick a C & pass on RHD that will say a ton.

Bigger issue is dumping cap &/or getting more 2nds.
- Nighthawk

Of course it's better. Aside from the lottery percentage, you have a better position at the guy you actually want. That's 1-3 teams that could snipe the guy you have an eye on/see dropping.

Dumba for how much? Too vague.
- Nighthawk

3 Year deal 6.5m, something would have to give obviously. He'd be a good fit still only 28. Protection for the pillow biters.

PA: There are other ways to build besides the draft.

You guys need to listen to what the GM says. He wants a competitive team now, not in four or five years. If they really cared about the draft they would have not traded picks and made a late season push to win games.

I am looking at the existing rosters of teams that have twenty-five-year-old centers and Dmen and paying almost no attention to the upcoming draft pool.
- VANTEL

Yeah I think they are trading this pick as well, either trade it to get a player they want or trade it to help move a bad contract to free up cap space to use in UFA.

I just (frank)ing hope that if they don't win the lottery they don't move the pick until they're on the clock.

It's fine to have some potential agreements in place but you must go into the draft having at least a few prospects you're in love with.
- golfingsince

I like that young Russian Dman on Montreal Xhekaj. I wouldn't mind seeing what NYI did last year for Romanov.

Minivan mentioned Ross out of TB who would make a good 3C

I also thinking they take a run at Gavrikov. That would be three very affordable moves that should be an upgrade.

I will let Nightie do the ACGM on this.

Yeah I think they are trading this pick as well, either trade it to get a player they want or trade it to help move a bad contract to free up cap space to use in UFA.
- A_SteamingLombardi

Canucks don't have any bad contracts.

Without a doubt.


He was probably best saying it was a tough year and left it at, but suggesting people don't know what he went through comes across as selfish.
No denying it's a hard thing to go through.
- Marwood

What’s selfish is being a fan of a sports team and being a butt hurt crybaby because a player who doesn’t even know you exists says that he had a hard time dealing with his dads death. He doesn’t deal with this happening the same as you did so you chastise him? Man that is such a selfish way of thinking - making someone else’s sadness about you and how you handled it, yikes buds


Edit: I forgot - Hi, Marwood (or Aaron)

I like that young Russian Dman on Montreal Xhekaj. I wouldn't mind seeing what NYI did last year for Romanov.

Minivan mentioned Ross out of TB who would make a good 3C

I also thinking they take a run at Gavrikov. That would be three very affordable moves that should be an upgrade.

I will let Nightie do the ACGM on this.
- VANTEL

There goes 11OA

There goes 11OA
- VanHockeyGuy

I look at it this way. I don't believe drafting is Rutherford's or Allvin's strong point, so I have come to terms not to rely on the draft.

PA: There are other ways to build besides the draft.

You guys need to listen to what the GM says. He wants a competitive team now, not in four or five years. If they really cared about the draft they would have not traded picks and made a late season push to win games.

I am looking at the existing rosters of teams that have twenty-five-year-old centers and Dmen and paying almost no attention to the upcoming draft pool.
- VANTEL

You need to listen (read) as well. Lol

I’ve said for quite awhile to sign UFA Gavrikov. Suggested 3C’s as well eg Haula & others. Further added there are some good UFA RHD the following offseason. As for trading PA has already shown he will do that for the right piece. Hronek.

I just (frank)ing hope that if they don't win the lottery they don't move the pick until they're on the clock.

It's fine to have some potential agreements in place but you must go into the draft having at least a few prospects you're in love with.
- golfingsince

You state my exact draft strategy.

Target your prospect &/or max out leverage trading the pick by waiting til on the clock.

Of course it's better. Aside from the lottery percentage, you have a better position at the guy you actually want. That's 1-3 teams that could snipe the guy you have an eye on/see dropping.
- NewYorkNuck

This is a deep deep draft & there isn’t solely 1 prospect that is an ooh aah wow steal in that range.

You need to listen (read) as well. Lol

I’ve said for quite awhile to sign UFA Gavrikov. Suggested 3C’s as well eg Haula & others. Further added there are some good UFA RHD the following offseason. As for trading PA has already shown he will do that for the right piece. Hronek.
- Nighthawk

Not joining the sky is falling crowd but so far Hronek has not been the right piece.

Until he is the right piece he isn't. He certainly can be the right piece but to date he has done nothing to improve the club YET.

This is a deep deep draft & there isn’t solely 1 prospect that is an ooh aah wow steal in that range.
- Nighthawk

I think it is a deep top five.

3 Year deal 6.5m, something would have to give obviously. He'd be a good fit still only 28. Protection for the pillow biters.
- VanHockeyGuy

Give a medium sized RHD on the decline a raise who doesn’t add much scoring? Schenn the same offence is only 1m. Lastly Dumba will want more than 3 years. 25pts a year is nothing.

PASS

I like that young Russian Dman on Montreal Xhekaj. I wouldn't mind seeing what NYI did last year for Romanov.

Minivan mentioned Ross out of TB who would make a good 3C

I also thinking they take a run at Gavrikov. That would be three very affordable moves that should be an upgrade.

I will let Nightie do the ACGM on this.
- VANTEL

My ACGM can fit in Gavrikov easily. After that a winger trade or Myers gone to keep retooling.

I’m looking even 1 season later to add a top 4 RHD. Pesce be the target but others also if not. That’ll definitely take what I go on on about…cap dumping somehow.

This is a deep deep draft & there isn’t solely 1 prospect that is an ooh aah wow steal in that range.
- Nighthawk

You're missing the point. It's not about how many great prospects there are. It's about having an earlier pick at the one you want.

Say they have a guy ranked as their #5 prospect, and he slides to 8. Canucks have that pick? No. Oh good, he slides to 9. Canucks have that pick? No. Oh, he slides to 10. Canucks have that pick? No. Oops, team at 10 takes him.

Now they're left going further down their draft board.

So yes, there is a reason to have an earlier pick. It doesn't mean you're necessarily going to get a "steal" of a pick between 8 and 11, but it does mean you'll have a better chance at choosing a guy who is higher up your draft board – and, if you believe in your scouts/evaluations, a better player in the long term.

I look at it this way. I don't believe drafting is Rutherford's or Allvin's strong point, so I have come to terms not to rely on the draft.
- VANTEL

In order to be a successful drafter you need picks. Rutherford has hit on a few, missed on many and also made some good and bad trades with the picks.

I do believe anything is on the table, and with the draft lottery still to come it's clearly still wide open. I do believe it's also a great year to trade down for the Canucks, if another team is high on a player available that we aren't at that position.

Regardless, you must have some players in mind at 13 that can be future franchise cornerstones in case the trade options at the time aren't worth moving the pick for.

Rutherford may be 72 but Alvin isn't even 50 yet.

There goes 11OA
- VanHockeyGuy

Ross Colton for 11oa isn’t outlandish. Ballsy gamble.

Pricey for sure & would stir up the VanCity hornets nest. Lol

My ACGM can fit in Gavrikov easily. After that a winger trade or Myers gone to keep retooling.

I’m looking even 1 season later to add a top 4 RHD. Pesce be the target but others also if not. That’ll definitely take what I go on on about…cap dumping somehow.
- Nighthawk

All teams find a way to get rid or hide cap. That is their job. Castonguay can do that with her eyes closed.

I think you look at the team you want and find a way to make it happen. We are talking three lower salaries with the three I mentioned in the post.