Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Not joining the sky is falling crowd but so far Hronek has not been the right piece.
Until he is the right piece he isn't. He certainly can be the right piece but to date he has done nothing to improve the club YET. - VANTEL
Yes very true đź‘Ť I believe in Hronek. |
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CanuckDon
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Location: Las Vegas Joined: 08.05.2014
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Not joining the sky is falling crowd but so far Hronek has not been the right piece.
Until he is the right piece he isn't. He certainly can be the right piece but to date he has done nothing to improve the club YET. - VANTEL
Because he hasn’t played ? |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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I think it is a deep top five. - VANTEL
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After that I’ve a tier of 8-10.
Next tier is very large.
Overall more picks in the top 40ish the better. |
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Location: This message is Marwood approved! Joined: 11.30.2011
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You're missing the point. It's not about how many great prospects there are. It's about having an earlier pick at the one you want.
Say they have a guy ranked as their #5 prospect, and he slides to 8. Canucks have that pick? No. Oh good, he slides to 9. Canucks have that pick? No. Oh, he slides to 10. Canucks have that pick? No. Oops, team at 10 takes him.
Now they're left going further down their draft board.
So yes, there is a reason to have an earlier pick. It doesn't mean you're necessarily going to get a "steal" of a pick between 8 and 11, but it does mean you'll have a better chance at choosing a guy who is higher up your draft board – and, if you believe in your scouts/evaluations, a better player in the long term. - NewYorkNuck
It also means that if you're willing to trade the pick it potentially has more value to whoever you're moving it to. |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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You're missing the point. It's not about how many great prospects there are. It's about having an earlier pick at the one you want.
Say they have a guy ranked as their #5 prospect, and he slides to 8. Canucks have that pick? No. Oh good, he slides to 9. Canucks have that pick? No. Oh, he slides to 10. Canucks have that pick? No. Oops, team at 10 takes him.
Now they're left going further down their draft board.
So yes, there is a reason to have an earlier pick. It doesn't mean you're necessarily going to get a "steal" of a pick between 8 and 11, but it does mean you'll have a better chance at choosing a guy who is higher up your draft board – and, if you believe in your scouts/evaluations, a better player in the long term. - NewYorkNuck
You’ve pretty much described Michkov.
Precursor to the draft is what trades PA can make beforehand if any. Imo C has many prospects to choose from that we need. RHD not so much as in true top pairing but top 4. A few wingers are interesting that could be a C Barlow & Woods. |
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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In order to be a successful drafter you need picks. Rutherford has hit on a few, missed on many and also made some good and bad trades with the picks.
I do believe anything is on the table, and with the draft lottery still to come it's clearly still wide open. I do believe it's also a great year to trade down for the Canucks, if another team is high on a player available that we aren't at that position.
Regardless, you must have some players in mind at 13 that can be future franchise cornerstones in case the trade options at the time aren't worth moving the pick for.
Rutherford may be 72 but Alvin isn't even 50 yet. - golfingsince
Who do you have in mind to trade down for? I’ve a few in mind. |
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In order to be a successful drafter you need picks. Rutherford has hit on a few, missed on many and also made some good and bad trades with the picks.
I do believe anything is on the table, and with the draft lottery still to come it's clearly still wide open. I do believe it's also a great year to trade down for the Canucks, if another team is high on a player available that we aren't at that position.
Regardless, you must have some players in mind at 13 that can be future franchise cornerstones in case the trade options at the time aren't worth moving the pick for.
Rutherford may be 72 but Alvin isn't even 50 yet. - golfingsince
Being a Canuck fan I have given up on the lottery.
I have hope that they are going to fix a lot of things this summer. Drafting aside Rutherford is not an idle man.
I was not happy with the first two thirds of their tenure, but I give them credit for being active and making a few smaller moves. I do think they will fix things though.
I am the wrong person to talk to about the draft. I see them building a team now and hope they don't make bad decisions. Everything they have done to date, to me has been about fixing it now.
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onesmallleap
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Location: Be Calm n Swede On, BC Joined: 09.23.2015
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Great game going in winter peg
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You’ve pretty much described Michkov.
Precursor to the draft is what trades PA can make beforehand if any. Imo C has many prospects to choose from that we need. RHD not so much as in true top pairing but top 4. A few wingers are interesting that could be a C Barlow & Woods. - Nighthawk
I doubt Michkov drops. When you draft ifth you expect that pick to be ready in 2 or 3 years and that fits his time frame.
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Nighthawk
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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All teams find a way to get rid or hide cap. That is their job. Castonguay can do that with her eyes closed.
I think you look at the team you want and find a way to make it happen. We are talking three lower salaries with the three I mentioned in the post. - VANTEL
Dumping cap for a neutral return is one strat then use that cap to reallocate for need. Gnarly for a 2nd.
Eg Garland out Gavrikov in
We can ride out Myers til the TDL or let him walk & use that cap for a key add.
Boeser could also be moved as well & let the wingers leftover carry the freight. Kuz Miky Beau Pod etc |
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Marwood
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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Yeah I think they are trading this pick as well, either trade it to get a player they want or trade it to help move a bad contract to free up cap space to use in UFA. - A_SteamingLombardi
It's as good as gone. |
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Marwood
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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What’s selfish is being a fan of a sports team and being a butt hurt crybaby because a player who doesn’t even know you exists says that he had a hard time dealing with his dads death. He doesn’t deal with this happening the same as you did so you chastise him? Man that is such a selfish way of thinking - making someone else’s sadness about you and how you handled it, yikes buds
Edit: I forgot - Hi, Marwood (or Aaron) - Big23Questions
Rent free! |
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It's as good as gone. - Marwood
We went and saw Pigs last night, great show with a surprise wedding before the encore. |
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Marwood
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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Great game going in winter peg - onesmallleap
Awesome game!! |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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I doubt Michkov drops. When you draft ifth you expect that pick to be ready in 2 or 3 years and that fits his time frame. - VANTEL
His playmaking is questionable. |
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Marwood
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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We went and saw Pigs last night, great show with a surprise wedding before the encore. - A_SteamingLombardi
Is that the Floyd tribute band? |
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Rent free! - Marwood
Hi, Marwood. |
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boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Not Quesnel, BC Joined: 10.11.2005
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Keep betting on the games. - Marwood
Ya, no kidding. I wouldn't put a penny on the results of an NHL game.
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Great game going in winter peg - onesmallleap
Been a very good game of big boy hockey.
Makes you realize how far away the Canucks are. |
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Is that the Floyd tribute band? - Marwood
Yeah |
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Ya, no kidding. I wouldn't put a penny on the results if a NHL game.
- boonerbuck
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Had to switch back to the Jets/VGK game. Leafs can always wait. |
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Marwood
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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Yeah - A_SteamingLombardi
Fun!
Where was it? |
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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Been a very good game of big boy hockey.
Makes you realize how far away the Canucks are. - Reubenkincade
Broken record lol
Give us your ACGM |
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Marwood
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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Broken record lol
Give us your ACGM - Nighthawk
He's not wrong. |
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