From last blog.

Leafs’ projected Game 1 lineup:

Bunting — Matthews — Marner
Tavares — O’Reilly — Nylander
Aston-Reese — Kämpf — Lafferty
Kerfoot — Acciari — Järnkrok

McCabe — Brodie
Giordano — Holl
Rielly — Schenn

Samsonov

Assuming ZAR Kampf Lafferty is indeed the 4th line as usual, you ok with Kerfoot Acciari Jarnkrok as your third line?

I think I'd prefer Acciari on the wing.

I think someone is afraid of jinxing the Leafs. No worries Mike. I'm a pessimist when it comes to the Leafs, but even I see the Leafs beating the refs in 6...
...I mean the Lightning in 6.

Oh hells to the yes.

Although (and this is a somewhat controversial take), of all the Savage Steve Holland films, I prefer One Crazy Summer to Better Off Dead.

Love them both, but

One Crazy Summer >>> Better Off Dead.
- Atomic Wedgie

I will take Better Off Dead over One Crazy Summer if only the recurrence - and staying power for 40 years - of the "I want my $2" bit, and the living jello walking off the table.

Both were very memorable movies from my middle-teen years. I'm gonna guess around 16 for both, give or take.

I will take Better Off Dead over One Crazy Summer if only the recurrence - and staying power for 40 years - of the "I want my $2" bit, and the living jello walking off the table.

Both were very memorable movies from my middle-teen years. I'm gonna guess around 16 for both, give or take.
- Monkeypunk

Don't have a dime.

Didn't ask for a dime. Two dollars.

so I finally saw the Dumba hit.

From one angle, it looks like their heads clash after the initial shoulder hit.

I don't know.

You could maybe argue the hit is late, but the actual hit looks OK to me.
- Atomic Wedgie

Pretty sure it was charging. “Player takes two or more steps or travels an excessive distance to accelerate through a body check for the purpose of punishing an opponent.”

He wasn’t taking normal strides since he was skating backwards and to the side but he was moving his feet and the purpose was clearly to punish an opponent.

8.5% ABV.

I was going to write "Don't expect anything coherent from Frenchie after the 2nd period" and then realized he never writes anything coherent.
- Atomic Wedgie

Wow...this is hurtful....and true.

From AW: in the last blog "
Does every single garment sold today have to have a franking hood?

FFS, try buying a ski jacket today.

Who the frank wants a hood on a ski jacket?

Yet they are on all of them."

Go back to the 80s ski patrol!
- Aaron_85

I find the opposite, trying to find any kind of professional looking coat with a hood is painful.

Some of us have to run back and forth to sites all day in every poop weather possible. 🤷

https://twitter.com/JeffV...tatus/1648363399238021121

Scroll the 4 posts by him and just laugh at the NHL.

so I finally saw the Dumba hit.

From one angle, it looks like their heads clash after the initial shoulder hit.

I don't know.

You could maybe argue the hit is late, but the actual hit looks OK to me.
- Atomic Wedgie

By current rules, I think it's 85% a legal hit.

I think it's more the optics of the hit leaves you asking - should hits like that be in the game? Specifically this: the intention of a body check is to separate the player from the puck, which is why hitting a player without the puck is a penalty. You get a short grace period after a play is made because you may have been in the process of hitting the player prior to them playing the puck away.

Digressing for a moment, there are hundreds of hits thrown every year where a forechecker skates 3 or 4 additional strides and hits a player who made an outlet pass with at least a 1-2 second or more window. These are optic hits that show your coach you're engaged. Technically every single one of them is illegal by the written rule of, "The last player to touch the puck, other than the goalkeeper, shall be considered the player in possession. The player deemed in possession of the puck may be checked legally, provided the check is rendered immediately following his loss of possession."

I digress here because I think the NHL has already shown a strong willingness to forego these calls in lieu of additional contact. The timing involved in loss of possession is incredibly variable and subjective.

Returning to the Dumba hit, the only area that it probably applies to is 48.1(i):

48.1 Illegal Check to the Head – A hit resulting in contact with an opponent’s head where the head was the main point of contact and such contact to the head was avoidable is not permitted.
In determining whether contact with an opponent's head was avoidable, the circumstances of the hit including the following shall be considered:

(i) Whether the player attempted to hit squarely through the opponent’s body and the head was not "picked" as a result of poor timing, poor angle of approach, or unnecessary extension of the body upward or outward.

(ii) Whether the opponent put himself in a vulnerable position by assuming a posture that made head contact on an otherwise full body check unavoidable.

(iii) Whether the opponent materially changed the position of his body or head immediately prior to or simultaneously with the hit in a way that significantly contributed to the head contact.
- NHL Rule 48.1

The problem ultimately, in my opinion, is that there is precedent to allow that type of hit - but while his feet are on the ice at the time of contact, he is elevating upwards with an unnecessary amount of force which is why the shoulder to shoulder leads to head contact.

Personally hits like that are unnecessary and could and should be removed from the game.

Mmmm melty cheese
- Fakepartofme

as the wife would cooked cheese

so I finally saw the Dumba hit.

From one angle, it looks like their heads clash after the initial shoulder hit.

I don't know.

You could maybe argue the hit is late, but the actual hit looks OK to me.
- Atomic Wedgie

how many steamboats did you count after the puck was gone to when Dumba hit him?




I counted about 4 this morning.

how many steamboats did you count after the puck was gone to when Dumba hit him?




I counted about 4 this morning.
- dmnted

you spelled 1/2 wrong

how many steamboats did you count after the puck was gone to when Dumba hit him?




I counted about 4 this morning.
- dmnted

What if Dumba was Perry and Pavelski was Tavares ?

Many would sing a different tune

https://twitter.com/JeffV...tatus/1648363399238021121

Scroll the 4 posts by him and just laugh at the NHL.
- GreatGigInTheSky

good old Edna ...

oh I mean Roger

What if Dumba was Perry and Pavelski was Tavares ?

Many would sing a different tune
- mr.sir

Bunting gets suspended

you spelled 1/2 wrong
- drexel

it was definitely 3 to 4 before Dumba lowered the boom on Pavelski

Bunting gets suspended
- Canada Cup

Kadri gets life

What if Dumba was Perry and Pavelski was Tavares ?

Many would sing a different tune
- mr.sir

hummm


I'm getting some deja vu here

it was definitely 3 to 4 before Dumba lowered the boom on Pavelski
- dmnted

maybe when you watch it in slow motion.

EDIT. Nope thats only 1.5 steamboats in slow motion

By current rules, I think it's 85% a legal hit.

I think it's more the optics of the hit leaves you asking - should hits like that be in the game? Specifically this: the intention of a body check is to separate the player from the puck, which is why hitting a player without the puck is a penalty. You get a short grace period after a play is made because you may have been in the process of hitting the player prior to them playing the puck away.

- Monkeypunk

I think there's something else that comes in play here - protecting your defenceman.

When they first brought in the "no obstruction" rules, defencemen were getting murdered on the dump-in.

I' m comfortable with a guy being able to slow down an aggressive forechecker by hitting him immediately after the dump in - which is kinda sorta a little bit like what happened on the Dumba hit.

Sorta

Digressing for a moment, there are hundreds of hits thrown every year where a forechecker skates 3 or 4 additional strides and hits a player who made an outlet pass with at least a 1-2 second or more window. These are optic hits that show your coach you're engaged. Technically every single one of them is illegal by the written rule of, "The last player to touch the puck, other than the goalkeeper, shall be considered the player in possession. The player deemed in possession of the puck may be checked legally, provided the check is rendered immediately following his loss of possession."

.
- Monkeypunk

You could have just typed, "Justice for Kaberle."

speaking of ridiculous steamboats. Remember when Macho Man dropped the bell on Ricky and crushed his larynx? that was good tv

I think there's something else that comes in play here - protecting your defenceman.

When they first brought in the "no obstruction" rules, defencemen were getting murdered on the dump-in.

I' m comfortable with a guy being able to slow down an aggressive forechecker by hitting him immediately after the dump in - which is kinda sorta a little bit like what happened on the Dumba hit.

Sorta


You could have just typed, "Justice for Kaberle."
- Atomic Wedgie

I am also in favour of reintroducing some form of legal interference on forecheckers - in this case, though, it's less that and more than Dumba's route is slightly circuitous - he comes around Hartman, which probably led Pavelski to think he wasn't going to be contacted, at least not that hard, or from that direction - there was no one that could have slowed Dumba, legally in any game context, from delivering that hit.

That hit on Kaberle was egregious. It was so late and so vicious and so obvious that Kaberle wasn't even a viable target. But while he wasn't at the forefront of my mind, it's entirely applicable.

maybe when you watch it in slow motion.

EDIT. Nope thats only 1.5 steamboats in slow motion
- drexel

it's definitely not 1.5 steamboats even in slow motion.
I counted 2 steamboats and on the 3rd one, the hit occurs.


https://www.youtube.com/w...mNBc&ab_channel=ToughCall

it's definitely not 1.5 steamboats even in slow motion.
I counted 2 steamboats and on the 3rd one, the hit occurs.


https://www.youtube.com/w...mNBc&ab_channel=ToughCall
- dmnted

i stand corrected. Dumba was at the top of the circle, took 4 big strides post pass and crushed him

i stand corrected. Dumba was at the top of the circle, took 4 big strides post pass and crushed him
- drexel

and that he did