But it was.

https://youtu.be/GRMES2RlU00

I think this angle gives the best view of that elbow coming up and not connecting with the head: https://youtu.be/GRMES2RlU00?t=19
- Monkeypunk

Well when I'm pausing it at the moment of contact (0.26 seconds) I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion.

oh he is going to get a nice contract in the off season
- senstroll

I don’t see that holding up much past May…

But you are correct he’s getting paid …. Not Ohtani money mind you … but nicely for sure.

What am I missing here, how was there 7 games last night. 🤔
- joel878

some might have been from the first night, I just kept scoring and looking at the pen differential...until I saw the pattern

oh he is going to get a nice contract in the off season
- senstroll

My buddy from TO texted me a pic of him at Fenway yesterday

Then this vid of him with a Good Samaritan act made the news after he ran the Boston marathon

https://www.wmur.com/arti...fter-baa-ran-out/43637523

But bunting leaves the ice, it looks like he jumped up into him
Sammie starts next game
- Fakepartofme

Bunting does leave the ice - and he does make principal contact with the head. He should get a 1 game suspension from it. Frankly, from my post above, I think Hartman should have received more than 1 game for his hit on Ehlers. If the DOPS thinks that playoff games are more of a punishment than regular season games, then 1 game is appropriate.

Play a game of what is and what isn't a penalty.

Round 1-

https://twitter.com/AlexM...tatus/1648185752704958464
https://twitter.com/TicTa...tatus/1648491350302810114
https://twitter.com/LARoy...tatus/1648164241046933504

Only one is called a penalty and it's the one where there was literally no crosscheck

Round 2-

https://twitter.com/TicTa...tatus/1648494315487002628

No words needed

Round 3-

https://twitter.com/TicTa...tatus/1648495882667724800
https://twitter.com/markk...tatus/1648163209331847169

You wanna call Bunting, league? Sure. Fine then. But don't just (frank)ing ignore the other poop.

Leafs turn up their intensity in the playoffs and they consistently get the book thrown at them hard. Why? I suspect because there's a perception around the league that they're a "soft" team so any increase in intensity and/or physicality boggles ref's minds.

Nonsense? Maybe, but the amount of ticky tack bs that gets called against this team is absurd. Confirmation bias? Maybe, but I don't give a (frank).
- mjones242

Ive never seen the words "ticky tack" used so much as i have in the past 14 hours.
I believe another poster on here used it last night.
I saw a tweet from some @casual_mats that used it as well.
Im gonna try and sneak it into a meeting today.

I'm honestly not trying to pick at you.

You try and be and objective - sometimes to a frustrating fault! - so that "shot" was more for people who feel that Leaf fans feel hard done by.

I feel often we are. I watch a lot of games. Edmonton and Toronto get the short end of the stick a lot. To put it in perspective, teams that I will cheer for if Toronto isn't playing: Edmonton, Pittsburgh and Winnipeg; I like Jersey, Carolina, Colorado and even LA. So this isn't just bias, which I obviously do have, but there is objective evidence that shows some teams have it worse than others.
- Monkeypunk

So you think the reffing is bad for the Leafs, but not so much for their opponents?

What is your theory for that "uneven" reffing?

I don’t see that holding up much past May…

But you are correct he’s getting paid …. Not Ohtani money mind you … but nicely for sure.
- dozerD10

well I dont expect him to lead the league in WAR, but the 3b FA market is pretty thin

and he is by far the best and youngest available

Lilly and Knies in for Bunting and Holl ....maybe.
- The Law

100% needs to happen

Well when I'm pausing it at the moment of contact (0.26 seconds) I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion.
- Scabeh

I come to the conclusion that the principal point of contact was the chest - there may have been some chin in that hit, but Essymount is already spinning away from the contact - he sees it coming. The arm comes up as a part of the follow through on the hit, but Essymount is already spun away, which is why the arm comes up and the head is away.

If you look at that strictly from the left, it looks more flush than it was. It's why there's so many angles.

well I dont expect him to lead the league in WAR, but the 3b FA market is pretty thin

and he is by far the best and youngest available
- senstroll

Truth serum...

So you think the reffing is bad for the Leafs, but not so much for their opponents?

What is your theory for that "uneven" reffing?
- Nasty_Duck

maybe for last night the ref friend of the molester guy and Keefe situation just spit balling here

hard to say

Game 1 and the whining is epic.

I come to the conclusion that the principal point of contact was the chest - there may have been some chin in that hit, but Essymount is already spinning away from the contact - he sees it coming. The arm comes up as a part of the follow through on the hit, but Essymount is already spun away, which is why the arm comes up and the head is away.

If you look at that strictly from the left, it looks more flush than it was. It's why there's so many angles.
- Monkeypunk

To me, he hits him in the upper chest and the head at the same time (it's a shoulder after all, not an arrow, so it covers a wide area).

If I'm reffing that game, I'm calling a penalty on the play.

Which would have made 100 times more sense than trying to make up for it on an non-existant slashing call on Perry.

But hey, I'm just a hockey enthusiast, I'm not a professional ref like these guys.

Schenn got a cross checking penalty with 1 hand on his stick...if thats not tough..what is?
- senstroll

and it was his arm that was used to move the TB player and not his stick

Agree with Sensy….Bunting leans into a taller player to deliver a hit just as he crouches down. Still head contact, but not intentional.


- mr.sir

Bunting's hit was dirty and there was no need for it...It was just stupid..

There were some bad ref calls that game but that was not one of them

I thought the McCabe hit could/should have been called as well.

And I am a Leafs fan

Game 1 and the whining is epic.
- Marwood

Feel free to leave then.

I recall you reporting me and getting me banned for saying pretty much the same thing in a Canucks thread a couple years back when Canucks fans were making death threats against Nazem Kadri and Morgan Reilly after some chippy hits.

Feel free to f@ck off.

Well when I'm pausing it at the moment of contact (0.26 seconds) I'm not sure how you come to that conclusion.
- Scabeh

You know I love you Scabby, but I have no franking idea what you are talking about.

That's just a perfect hockey hit. He drives his shoulder/upper arm into the guy's chest.

No head contact.

Certainly no elbow to the head.

It was perfect.

Game 1 and the whining is epic.
- Marwood

It's our birthright.

This may anger some.
I still dont see the puck

https://twitter.com/rickr...I2PcoFhqV5on_Eccuv8g&s=19
- Fakepartofme

I don't see how that puck fully crossed the line

You know I love you Scabby, but I have no franking idea what you are talking about.

That's just a perfect hockey hit. He drives his shoulder/upper arm into the guy's chest.

No head contact.

Certainly no elbow to the head.

It was perfect.
- Atomic Wedgie

First of all, the love and respect is mutual.

I don't know what to tell you, I see a shoulder hitting from the top of his chest to his head. It might be some angles that make it look worse and I might be wrong but that's what I'm seeing when I look at it.

There's obviously no elbow there, I agree.

I don't see how that puck fully crossed the line
- dmnted

There's a better angle - they showed it last night in the intermission.

Not saying it was in, but there's a much better angle out there somewhere.

I suspect it was in, just by the way both Tampa players immediately celebrated.

First of all, the love and respect is mutual.

I don't know what to tell you, I see a shoulder hitting from the top of his chest to his head. It might be some angles that make it look worse and I might be wrong but that's what I'm seeing when I look at it.

There's obviously no elbow there, I agree.
- Scabeh

Wanna get these meals to go, and head back to my motel room?

Wanna get these meals to go, and head back to my motel room?
- Atomic Wedgie

Sure but no eating the nachos in the bed this time.