Let’s see how hockey coverage is after ESPN lays off another 3,000 employees.
- LAHawk

Man you've just been doom and gloom lately

Maybe they'll start paying a dividend?

Good night for the Hawks
- vabeachbear

Yup .Thats the only dog I have in these Games .Damm though it hard too watch the Leafs win ,them and their arrogant fans remind me of the vancouver clucks 10 years ago

Yup .Thats the only dog I have in these Games .Damm though it hard too watch the Leafs win ,them and their arrogant fans remind me of the vancouver clucks 10 years ago
- oldduffman

That’s a good comparison - helps explain why I like seeing TOR lose.

Golden Knights Accused Of Using Petty Tactic To Gain An Edge On The Jets In The Playoffs

https://www.msn.com/en-us...2118f45f9334ac6a339&ei=17

You know maybe the NHL should of accepted the bid from espn instead of giving it to NBC last time because i really like their coverage and all night I'm watching playoff hockey and i bet they would of helped the NHL grow in fans
- BetweenTheDots

I am with you, they are doing a good job with educating and selling the game.

The results last night, Leafs looking much better, Rangers looking very good.

Seems this is best for Hawks if continued as it raises the Bolts first pick this year (and maybe next year also, as if they drop out early, will they start a bit of a rebuild) and increases the probability that the Rags pick will move to a first next year.

Got me to thinking about that NY pick, and really this is a question for Wiz, are we positive that a pick at say 29 - 32 in 2024 is better than a pick this year at say 55 - 60 in 2023?

Golden Knights Accused Of Using Petty Tactic To Gain An Edge On The Jets In The Playoffs

https://www.msn.com/en-us...2118f45f9334ac6a339&ei=17
- Mr Ricochet

Easy solution to stop it. When the Knights are in Winnipeg turn off the hot water to the showers.

Golden Knights Accused Of Using Petty Tactic To Gain An Edge On The Jets In The Playoffs

https://www.msn.com/en-us...2118f45f9334ac6a339&ei=17
- Mr Ricochet

And now you have to question how they made it to the SCF the 1st year of their existence.

Golden Knights Accused Of Using Petty Tactic To Gain An Edge On The Jets In The Playoffs

https://www.msn.com/en-us...2118f45f9334ac6a339&ei=17
- Mr Ricochet

That’s some Danbury Trashers hijinx right there…

If you haven’t seen it on Netflix, it is HIGHLY recommended!

Exhale….

Patty Kane heating up
- BetweenTheDots

Haven't seen this Kane since 2015. They've moved him back up to the 1st PP and L1 and you can see some chemistry building.

NYR has been really impressive, especially defensively. You'd think Torts was the coach as they block shot after shot in front of a world class goalie. ..... If they get by NJ they have a series with either NYI or CAR who have now lost TT to a broken wrist. Looks like they have a real shot at the ECF.

The results last night, Leafs looking much better, Rangers looking very good.

Seems this is best for Hawks if continued as it raises the Bolts first pick this year (and maybe next year also, as if they drop out early, will they start a bit of a rebuild) and increases the probability that the Rags pick will move to a first next year.

Got me to thinking about that NY pick, and really this is a question for Wiz, are we positive that a pick at say 29 - 32 in 2024 is better than a pick this year at say 55 - 60 in 2023?
- vabeachbear

In Austin Texas, but ready with answer:
Next year isn't a draft as overly exceptional as this year's but it still, early on, rates above most past years other than this one.

Lot's of times the starting opinions on drafts strength is tied to the top tiers, and next year has two-can't miss forwards, and a nice first round, that if you asked me now contains 29 true first rounders." That doesn't mean more will not emerge...Covid affected this class too so I would suspect there are plenty "build my game further" prospects that will show improvement too.
https://www.lines.com/nhl/drafts/2024

You can error with a first rounder, but Rangers pick will be towards the end of teh draft b/c they will be able to make a another run.
Toronto is bound to have many subtractions and that may include their GM, so maybe their 2024 slotting won't be at then end of the draft unless they win/almost win the Silver Cup.

Tampa as you said, isn't going to quit on the long tenured and signed core, but will continue to lose excellent complementary players (Kilorn) b/c that is the only way that can roll. (Tampa only has a 6th and two 7th rounders in 2023
Hagel's bargain basement contract of $1.5 mil end after 2024 and that co-incides with Stamko's deal ending.
This summer they have to re-up Ross Colton and he will want more 1,125,000.

So, there is a good possibly that the Tampa Bay re-tool to win adds lesser lights and loses player due to cap woes.

The results last night, Leafs looking much better, Rangers looking very good.

Seems this is best for Hawks if continued as it raises the Bolts first pick this year (and maybe next year also, as if they drop out early, will they start a bit of a rebuild) and increases the probability that the Rags pick will move to a first next year.

Got me to thinking about that NY pick, and really this is a question for Wiz, are we positive that a pick at say 29 - 32 in 2024 is better than a pick this year at say 55 - 60 in 2023?
- vabeachbear

Personally I'll take my chances with New York's 2024 1st. They'll have a good team next year even if they don't sign Tarasenko or Kane.

They have been relatively injury free this season (per this man-games-lost chart dated March 10). IF their man games lost due to injuries return to the league norm next season, maybe they finish further down in the standings and won't make a cup run and the 2024 pick is in the low 20's.

https://twitter.com/ManGa...34391257714769920/photo/1

Back to the forwards for next year. Cap hits from Capfriendly.

Already signed for next year and probably on the roster:
T. Johnson, Blackwell, D!ckinson, Raddysh, Katchouk, Guttman, Entwistle, R. Johnson, Reichel = 13.8M

RFA's to be extended
Kurashev - 1.5 to 2M
Maybe Wagner or Bjork - 1.5M

So far 11 forwards at 17.3M

Existing signed defense contracts = 20.5M plus about 3.5-4M more for two guys on ELC's plus a C. Jones extension = 24.5M.

Goalies Mrazek and Soderblom = 5M

Dead money = 5.1M

So 17.3 + 24.5 + 5 + 5.1 = 51.9M. Need to fill at least 3 forward spots and spend about 12 or 13M.

Forward UFA's out there - Could bring back AA at 3.25M, Domi at 2 or 3 years at 4.5M, and as Elbows mentioned a Druin, Okposo, Lucic type for between 2 and 3M. I would add James VanRiemsdyk or Brendan Lemieux to the list. We can pray that any of the above lights it up next season and gets a return at the TDL.

Forward cap dumps out there - Josh Bailey 1x5M, Mike Hoffman 2x4.5M, Mantha 2x5.7M. Probably get a decent sweetener along with any of these.

Need to factor in hopefully Bedard or Fantilli (if he comes out) at 950K.

Back to the forwards for next year. Cap hits from Capfriendly.

Already signed for next year and probably on the roster:
T. Johnson, Blackwell, D!ckinson, Raddysh, Katchouk, Guttman, Entwistle, R. Johnson, Reichel = 13.8M

RFA's to be extended
Kurashev - 1.5 to 2M
Maybe Wagner or Bjork - 1.5M

So far 11 forwards at 17.3M

Existing signed defense contracts = 20.5M plus about 3.5-4M more for two guys on ELC's plus a C. Jones extension = 24.5M.

Goalies Mrazek and Soderblom = 5M

Dead money = 5.1M

So 17.3 + 24.5 + 5 + 5.1 = 51.9M. Need to fill at least 3 forward spots and spend about 12 or 13M.

Forward UFA's out there - Could bring back AA at 3.25M, Domi at 2 or 3 years at 4.5M, and as Elbows mentioned a Druin, Okposo, Lucic type for between 2 and 3M. I would add James VanRiemsdyk or Brendan Lemieux to the list. We can pray that any of the above lights it up next season and gets a return at the TDL.

Forward cap dumps out there - Josh Bailey 1x5M, Mike Hoffman 2x4.5M, Mantha 2x5.7M. Probably get a decent sweetener along with any of these.

Need to factor in hopefully Bedard or Fantilli (if he comes out) at 950K.
- boilermaker100

this is my vote for using the "Glorious" cap space, at least for one, maybe two more years.

In Austin Texas, but ready with answer:
Next year isn't a draft as overly exceptional as this year's but it still, early on, rates above most past years other than this one.

Lot's of times the starting opinions on drafts strength is tied to the top tiers, and next year has two-can't miss forwards, and a nice first round, that if you asked me now contains 29 true first rounders." That doesn't mean more will not emerge...Covid affected this class too so I would suspect there are plenty "build my game further" prospects that will show improvement too.
https://www.lines.com/nhl/drafts/2024

You can error with a first rounder, but Rangers pick will be towards the end of teh draft b/c they will be able to make a another run.
Toronto is bound to have many subtractions and that may include their GM, so maybe their 2024 slotting won't be at then end of the draft unless they win/almost win the Silver Cup.

Tampa as you said, isn't going to quit on the long tenured and signed core, but will continue to lose excellent complementary players (Kilorn) b/c that is the only way that can roll. (Tampa only has a 6th and two 7th rounders in 2023
Hagel's bargain basement contract of $1.5 mil end after 2024 and that co-incides with Stamko's deal ending.
This summer they have to re-up Ross Colton and he will want more 1,125,000.

So, there is a good possibly that the Tampa Bay re-tool to win adds lesser lights and loses player due to cap woes.
- wiz1901

So using your mocks the comparison would be something like who is the better long term prospect;

Charlie Elick or Jayden Perron ???

And now you have to question how they made it to the SCF the 1st year of their existence.
- powerenforcer

Why does that have to be questioned?

this is my vote for using the "Glorious" cap space, at least for one, maybe two more years.
- vabeachbear

Why do the Islanders/Montreal/Washington have to "dump" these players? They are significantly under the cap with them.

As a matter of fact if you look at any of the teams, The only team I see that desperately needs to move a high salary player(s) next year to get out of cap hell is Vancouver. Anyone other team can fill with players on their ELC or signed for the minimum (think Corey Perry/Pat Maroon)

Now whether some team is looking to trade, or sign for a high dollar player and must get rid of someone is another discussion.

4-5-4-4-4-1-4-4-1-4

Two #1s, if not #1, then gotta be #4
- totem

Thursday: 4-5-4-4-4-1-4-4-1-4
Friday: 4-5-5-3-4-1-3-2-4-5

Thursday: 4-5-4-4-4-1-4-4-1-4
Friday: 4-5-5-3-4-1-3-2-4-5
- totem

4-3-5-1-3

Why do the Islanders/Montreal/Washington have to "dump" these players? They are significantly under the cap with them.

As a matter of fact if you look at any of the teams, The only team I see that desperately needs to move a high salary player(s) next year to get out of cap hell is Vancouver. Anyone other team can fill with players on their ELC or signed for the minimum (think Corey Perry/Pat Maroon)

Now whether some team is looking to trade, or sign for a high dollar player and must get rid of someone is another discussion.
- LAHawk

So Winnepeg is at $71 million with 15 players on the roster, how does that work with DuBois? I think they have to at least qualify him at $10 mil, this is a problem for almost every playoff team.

Are you saying as well that FA will only sign with playoff teams? For league minimum? So all the FA are going to sign with playoff teams but the playoff teams can't afford them unless they offer league minimum?

The Oil have 15 players at $75 mil, I'm thinking Bouchard gets at least $4 mil? I'm thinking more like the Pelech deal $5.5? Just 2 examples

So Winnepeg is at $71 million with 15 players on the roster, how does that work with DuBois? I think they have to at least qualify him at $10 mil, this is a problem for almost every playoff team.

Are you saying as well that FA will only sign with playoff teams? For league minimum? So all the FA are going to sign with playoff teams but the playoff teams can't afford them unless they offer league minimum?
- BetweenTheDots

Dubois will be traded (probably to Montreal), he has stated many times that is his wish.

I am saying that the teams do not "have" to do a cap dump. I said they might need to trade salary if they want to make room for a high price FA (i.e. Kane). But they don't have to do that deal if they do not want to.

This isn't like Tampa giving McDonough to Nashville to get under the cap. GM's have been navigating a flat cap now for how many years? I think they get the hang of how to keep the players they want by now. (at least most of them, Vancouver, their front office is a mess.)

The Oil have 15 players at $75 mil, I'm thinking Bouchard gets at least $4 mil? I'm thinking more like the Pelech deal $5.5? Just 2 examples
- BetweenTheDots

And they fill out the rest of the roster with ELC and league minimum players, just like they have this year.

Why does that have to be questioned?
- paulr

Look at the team that plays near your location.

Look at the team that plays near your location.
- powerenforcer

What does that mean? Your conspiracies are bouncing around too quickly for me to follow.