As much as it's difficult to see the Leafs losing 3 in a row going forward, it's just as difficult to see the Leafs win 4 in a row against Tampa.

I think it's somewhat promising that they took 3 in a row while not playing their best, so there is a chance to close out here tonight. Especially with Sammy at home.

It sure would be nice to not fret about a game 6 in Tampa.

I'll do my part. I was drinking some Wayne Gretzky whisky for the first 2 periods of game 4, and switched to Crown Royal in the 3rd.

Got myself a fresh bottle of Crown for today's game.

GO LEAFS GO!

I never liked Cabbie's schtick. It was embarrassing to watch him try to be "cool" and shamelessly suck up to and fawn all over sports stars.
- fifty__missions

Him and Kobe Bryant had a good thing going back in the mid 2000's. I thought it was pretty funny.

I think gamblers are going to gamble no matter what. They don't need constant advertising to do it. They're trying to suck in the occasional gambler or sportsfan who thinks they have nothing better to do with their time.

The government bans all advertising for tobacco because smoking kills. Gambling kills people, families, households yet here we are.
- Kinger34

The problem is the technology - once these gambling sites get their app on your phone, it's constant temptation.

Remember when you had to get your bet in before the game started? Not anymore.

Bet any time during the game. Odds change constantly, and the franking apps send push notifications of the new odds and bets.

Did you bet on the Kings, and they are losing so bad that you are going to lose your money? No problem - make that money back and more!!!! by betting on if Edmonton scores on their next powerplay.

C'mon, it'll be fun! What could possibly go wrong?

My brother is a high school teacher, and he says that probably 80% of his male students are heavy sports gamblers. And almost none of them are 18.

This is going to be a huge societal problem.

Hell, it probably already is.

While we are still in a pandemic, and MH rates are skyrocketing, and we are in an economic crisis with the highest rate of inflation and highest mortgage rates I have seen in my lifetime. It's disgusting.
- Kinger34

The 80s say hi

I think gamblers are going to gamble no matter what. They don't need constant advertising to do it. They're trying to suck in the occasional gambler or sportsfan who thinks they have nothing better to do with their time.

The government bans all advertising for tobacco because smoking kills. Gambling kills people, families, households yet here we are.
- Kinger34

Agree 100%. Gambling sites always win!
Gambling wrecks lives, shouldn’t be advertised.

Plus they are really poopty, annoying ads.

Leafs have to win tonight.
No excuses.

The problem is the technology - once these gambling sites get their app on your phone, it's constant temptation.

Remember when you had to get your bet in before the game started? Not anymore.

Bet any time during the game. Odds change constantly, and the franking apps send push notifications of the new odds and bets.

Did you bet on the Kings, and they are losing so bad that you are going to lose your money? No problem - make that money back and more!!!! by betting on if Edmonton scores on their next powerplay.

C'mon, it'll be fun! What could possibly go wrong?

My brother is a high school teacher, and he says that probably 80% of his male students are heavy sports gamblers. And almost none of them are 18.

This is going to be a huge societal problem.

Hell, it probably already is.
- Atomic Wedgie

Having everything at the tip of your hands is a huge societal problem

A friend gave me this $75 free bet thing so I signed up. I am up $200 since the playoffs but I am getting out after one last bet for the leafs to win. I know its only due time for it to be sucked away like a vacuum
- Santo_44

get out before the NFL season

The problem is the technology - once these gambling sites get their app on your phone, it's constant temptation.

Remember when you had to get your bet in before the game started? Not anymore.

Bet any time during the game. Odds change constantly, and the franking apps send push notifications of the new odds and bets.

Did you bet on the Kings, and they are losing so bad that you are going to lose your money? No problem - make that money back and more!!!! by betting on if Edmonton scores on their next powerplay.

C'mon, it'll be fun! What could possibly go wrong?

My brother is a high school teacher, and he says that probably 80% of his male students are heavy sports gamblers. And almost none of them are 18.

This is going to be a huge societal problem.

Hell, it probably already is.
- Atomic Wedgie

I think we might see the frenzy of advertising slow down at some point. The big push is to get folks hooked onto one site with the assumption that they’ll stay there. Like you said, the pushes from the apps will take it from there.

Of course the big irony is that the provincial government is going to lose up to $3bn from Ford’s bad bet to legalize this stuff which will hurt bricks and mortar casinos which are taxed at a higher rate.

Alcohol, where advertising is deemed to be ok, is still a bigger social problem - for now. (I agree that the ease of online betting is going to really (frank) up a lot of people.)

Having everything at the tip of your hands is a huge societal problem
- Fakepartofme

We’re all going to go blind

While we are still in a pandemic, and MH rates are skyrocketing, and we are in an economic crisis with the highest rate of inflation and highest mortgage rates I have seen in my lifetime. It's disgusting.
- Kinger34

You must be pretty young. In the 80s there were horrible mortgage rates, like 18%!

We’re all going to go blind
- Canada Cup

I think we might see the frenzy of advertising slow down at some point. The big push is to get folks hooked onto one site with the assumption that they’ll stay there. Like you said, the pushes from the apps will take it from there.

Of course the big irony is that the provincial government is going to lose up to $3bn from Ford’s bad bet to legalize this stuff which will hurt bricks and mortar casinos which are taxed at a higher rate.

Alcohol, where advertising is deemed to be ok, is still a bigger social problem - for now. (I agree that the ease of online betting is going to really (frank) up a lot of people.)
- Canada Cup

Care to explain how that is the case? It wasn't Ford's decision to legalize online gambling it, that was a federal legislative change, not provincial.

You do realize that the OLG has their own online platform right?

Bricks and mortar casino's are 'taxed at a higher rate' ? As in what taxes?

Agree 100%. Gambling sites always win!
Gambling wrecks lives, shouldn’t be advertised.

Plus they are really poopty, annoying ads.
- .HOHO.

one of the many fascinating things about me is the year i spent living in hereford and traveling the world👍

hereford was great because everything is walking distance so i could start drinkin at the house, stumble down to the will hill and do some parlays, stumble over to the vault or barrels and get faded, stumble to the rubix or kerry for some split tail then stumble home👊🏿

Care to explain how that is the case? It wasn't Ford's decision to legalize online gambling it, that was a federal legislative change, not provincial.

You do realize that the OLG has their own online platform right?

Bricks and mortar casino's are 'taxed at a higher rate' ? As in what taxes?
- Cush29

https://www.cbc.ca/news/c...enue-government-1.6316064

Care to explain how that is the case? It wasn't Ford's decision to legalize online gambling it, that was a federal legislative change, not provincial.

You do realize that the OLG has their own online platform right?

Bricks and mortar casino's are 'taxed at a higher rate' ? As in what taxes?
- Cush29

Allowed through federal legislation in 2021 but only permitted in Ontario which started licensing them in 2022.

Provincial take from land based casinos is 55%. Provincial take from online gambling is 20%.

Would you like pictures?

Having everything at the tip of your hands is a huge societal problem
- Fakepartofme

Totally agree. Retirement is not too far on the horizon for my wife and I. Under five years. We are considering going to one phone between us. I'd happily let her keep it. My favorite times of the year are backcountry canoe trips when I don't have my phone with me at all for a week. It's a glorious reminder of how it used to be when you were....free.

Allowed through federal legislation in 2021 but only permitted in Ontario which started licensing them in 2022.

Provincial take from land based casinos is 55%. Provincial take from online gambling is 20%.

Would you like pictures?
- Canada Cup

preferably kinky ones

preferably kinky ones
- 21peter

I promised you I wouldn’t share those with anyone

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/ontario-casino-revenue-government-1.6316064
- Atomic Wedgie

So it's a report that was done by gambling consulting firms for a private operator so essentially best guesses with perhaps some bias mixed in because the firm (Great Canadian Gaming) who operates the most brick and mortar locations in Ontario is trying to get the provincial government to pay them more. Specifically by having the gov't take less or profit share with the online revenue and this is their angle - you let online gambling come and it's going to hurt us - we want to renegotiate our agreement.

And it's not that the brick and mortar casinos are taxed less, it's that the taxes generated from the online companies is anticipated to be less than the percentage the government takes from casino spending (which is built into the operating agreements and isn't a tax).

And even the folkis who operate the online gambling sites claim the report to be flawed (and I would agree they are right). People aren't going to suddenly stop going to casinos simply because they can gamble online - it's 2 very different things.

It's like saying people who go to bars will go less if the LCBO and Beer stores extend their hours.

Anyway enough non-hockey talk for me - Go Leafs Go.

Allowed through federal legislation in 2021 but only permitted in Ontario which started licensing them in 2022.

Provincial take from land based casinos is 55%. Provincial take from online gambling is 20%.

Would you like pictures?
- Canada Cup

Right so you saying Ford's bad bet to legalize it was in fact incorrect it's federal legislation that legalized it. Things can be legal but provinces or municipalities not choose to allow them - Cannabis sales is a perfect example.

Would you like pictures to illustrate the difference between tax and money that is handed over as a result of a contractual agreement? They aren't the same thing.

While we are still in a pandemic, and MH rates are skyrocketing, and we are in an economic crisis with the highest rate of inflation and highest mortgage rates I have seen in my lifetime. It's disgusting.
- Kinger34

we are?

Right so you saying Ford's bad bet to legalize it was in fact incorrect it's federal legislation that legalized it. Things can be legal but provinces or municipalities not choose to allow them - Cannabis sales is a perfect example.

- Cush29

I don't really have a dog in this fight - I was just providing you with the article, but your reasoning here is a little backward.

The federal government made provisions to allow the provinces to legalize it.

It's the individual provinces who decide whether to make it legal or not.

I don't know if I agree with it on a professional level, but it's a damn good message for kids.