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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 1 @ 7:14 PM ET
You’re always confused because you don’t understand they can do both. It’s not black and white. You can build more than one way, all teams do it. But you hate the management team for some reason and don’t like 90% of what they do.

They clearly said they are not rebuilding, in the transitional sense, like Ottawa or Arizona, they’ll use everything at their disposal to try and get better and build a prospect pool and the same time. It’s not hard to understand.

They can build through the draft and try and be competitive at the same time.

- LeftCoaster


You clearly don't understand there are more than one way to build a prospect pool. Bloom Raty Hirose Johansson Bains Sasson McWard. None of these guys are drafted and make the prospect pool better.

Allvin in his 18 months has traded a first two seconds and two third round picks. Any idiot can clearly see Drafting is not their priority which was my earlier comment at the beginning of this thread.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 1 @ 7:16 PM ET
But Alvin doesn’t like firsts, he traded one already for a broken D, why not trade for another?
Tanev will retire a Flame, then be inducted into the Canucks ring of mediocrity, wearing his Flames jersey just to rub salt into the wound.Hughes and Petey will give him a standing ovation at the induction ceremony, while the Sedins praise all his accomplishments of his storied career, the fans will cheer for what could of been.

- K-man25


You do have a point.

Maybe PA likes collecting picks so he can trade them to piss off Drance.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 1 @ 7:17 PM ET
Our hockey expert says they are building through the draft .
- VANTEL


Who the narcissist?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 1 @ 7:18 PM ET
Who the narcissist?
- VanHockeyGuy


Yes EgoBoy
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 1 @ 7:18 PM ET
But Alvin doesn’t like firsts, he traded one already for a broken D, why not trade for another?
Tanev will retire a Flame, then be inducted into the Canucks ring of mediocrity, wearing his Flames jersey just to rub salt into the wound.Hughes and Petey will give him a standing ovation at the induction ceremony, while the Sedins praise all his accomplishments of his storied career, the fans will cheer for what could of been.

- K-man25

Anything from Horvat stinks , get rid of it!!
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 1 @ 7:20 PM ET
You clearly don't understand there are more than one way to build a prospect pool. Bloom Raty Hirose Johansson Bains Sasson McWard. None of these guys are drafted and make the prospect pool better.

Allvin in his 18 months has traded a first two seconds and two third round picks. Any idiot can clearly see Drafting is not their priority which was my earlier comment at the beginning of this thread.

- VANTEL

That’s exactly what I’m saying, he’s trying to build a pool through various measures. He’s done well for only being in the job just over a year.

Furthermore, you didn’t say it isn’t their priority, you said “they don’t care about drafting” which is complete nonsense.
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 1 @ 7:21 PM ET
All good. Just messing with you.
I think you may be on to something, we can’t control what our teams do. Just hope they pick a lane and stay in it.

- K-man25

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 1 @ 7:22 PM ET
That’s exactly what I’m saying, he’s trying to build a pool through various measures. He’s done well for only being in the job just over a year.
- LeftCoaster


No sh1t Einstein

That doesn't mean he is building through the draft though. Put your Ego on maybe he is smarter.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 1 @ 7:27 PM ET
No sh1t Einstein

That doesn't mean he is building through the draft though. Put your Ego on maybe he is smarter.

- VANTEL

Oh my God, you’re so dumb, where do you think Lekkermaki and D-Petey came from? Did they not come from the draft?
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

May 1 @ 7:28 PM ET
Anything from Horvat stinks , get rid of it!!
- LeftCoaster

K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

May 1 @ 7:29 PM ET
Oh my God, you’re so dumb, where do you think Lekkermaki and D-Petey came from? Did they not come from the draft?
- LeftCoaster

Sweden. I see some distinct similarities
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 1 @ 7:33 PM ET
Sweden. I see some distinct similarities
- K-man25

you have a point there. He just can’t get it thru his thick skull that you can build many ways at the same time, one of them is thru the draft.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 1 @ 7:36 PM ET
Oh my God, you’re so dumb, where do you think Lekkermaki and D-Petey came from? Did they not come from the draft?
- LeftCoaster


Really put your ego on, you are really a dumbass. If go back to page nine or so it started when I own the Northwest said we should draft and put all our drafted players on Abby farm team. I said some of our best players were developed outside our farm club ( Petey Hughes Podz Hogs DPetey ) I said I don't think Canucks care about drafting and later followed up with it was not a priority.

I said Abby is a farm team they use mostly for replacing players that need time off. Abbys best players are Hogs Silovs and Rathbone they are not a star filled team. They are getting better and doing things right but there is no priority to fill the team with drafted players.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 1 @ 7:37 PM ET
There was lots more to Tocchets interview on missing curfew podcast.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 1 @ 7:40 PM ET
Really put your ego on, you are really a dumbass. If go back to page nine or so it started when I own the Northwest said we should draft and put all our drafted players on Abby farm team. I said some of our best players were developed outside our farm club ( Petey Hughes Podz Hogs DPetey ) I said I don't think Canucks care about drafting and later followed up with it was not a priority.

I said Abby is a farm team they use mostly for replacing players that need time off. Abbys best players are Hogs Silovs and Rathbone they are not a star filled team. They are getting better and doing things right but there is no priority to fill the team with drafted players.

- VANTEL

Vantel, they’ve had one draft, those kids aren’t old enough to legally play in the AHL. Give it some time.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 1 @ 7:41 PM ET
Vantel, they’ve had one draft, those kids aren’t old enough to legally play in the AHL. Give it some time.
- LeftCoaster


Thanks for that tip Captain Obvious.. I was thinking they had at least six drafts in Allvin's 18 month tenure.

I said by starting off on page nine or so D Petey is one of my favorite prospects. I am well aware of what PA has done, his trades and also the age limits for drafted players to play in the AHL.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 1 @ 7:42 PM ET
There was lots more to Tocchets interview on missing curfew podcast.
- manvanfan

He seems like a bit of a hardass but he also seems like a good communicator. He’s evolving as a coach. After getting taught by Keenan and Bowman I thought he was a lost cause.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 1 @ 7:43 PM ET
Thanks for that tip Captain Obvious.. I was thinking they had at least six drafts in Allvin's 18 month tenure.
- VANTEL

Well explain how you want their AHL team to have their drafted kids on it then.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 1 @ 7:46 PM ET
Well explain how you want their AHL team to have their drafted kids on it then.
- LeftCoaster


God damn you are dumb. I started off the conversation with I Own the Northwest by saying it was not going to happen or why do they need to do it that way?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 1 @ 7:51 PM ET
God damn you are dumb. I started off the conversation with I Own the Northwest by saying it was not going to happen or why do they need to do it that way?
- VANTEL

Filling the AHL is no teams “priority”, it’s just a development tool for players within your organization. Getting good players, through whatever means, is the priority. I played in the American Hockey League, I know what it’s for.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 1 @ 7:57 PM ET
Filling the AHL is no teams “priority”, it’s just a development tool for players within your organization. Getting good players, through whatever means, is the priority. I played in the American Hockey League, I know what it’s for.
- LeftCoaster



This is exactly what I said to IOTNW. They are making a farm team by other means and that drafting players and putting them in Abbottsford was not a priority.

But for the record I think any GM who trades five top three round picks in 18 months does not care too much about drafting and no one will convince me otherwise. I would say on a scale of 1 to 10 he has drafting at a 3 priority.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 1 @ 8:02 PM ET
Just about to land, that pretty much killed the three hour flight. Thanks Vantel.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 1 @ 8:05 PM ET
Just about to land, that pretty much killed the three hour flight. Thanks Vantel.
- LeftCoaster


The pleasure was all yours.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 1 @ 8:06 PM ET
Just about to land, that pretty much killed the three hour flight. Thanks Vantel.
- LeftCoaster

I wish you guys would be nicer to each other
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 1 @ 8:14 PM ET
He seems like a bit of a hardass but he also seems like a good communicator. He’s evolving as a coach. After getting taught by Keenan and Bowman I thought he was a lost cause.
- LeftCoaster

His interview put some light to what he thinks about the team. I'd say Petey and Hughes have opened his eyes. He still seems like an Asst coach motivator though. They need someone to get them to be engaged more often but also someone like Brind Amour and teach them better team play and structure. Might be Yeo's job though.
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