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Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 4 @ 6:47 PM ET
Time to move out of communist Canada šŸ‘
- Bettmanhatesus

See ya!!
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

May 4 @ 6:50 PM ET
Time to move out of communist Canada šŸ‘
- Bettmanhatesus

šŸ™‹ā€ā™‚ļøByeee
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

May 4 @ 7:01 PM ET
First of all, Boston sucks Reuby, you get what you deserve.

Secondly, Booner and Neemer your boy beta Bo is a (frank)ing joke. But playoffs! But faceoffs! But his stats donā€™t matter because the team is winning!

What fresh excuses do you have for Horvat now?

- CanuckDon


You are the one always bringing up Bo, not me. Don't tie me into the arguments you have with Neem you useless drunk (frank)tard.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

May 4 @ 7:03 PM ET
Poor Bo


- VanHockeyGuy


How do people not know that his contract starts next season....
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

May 4 @ 7:12 PM ET



- VANTEL


Florida is full of Canadians so good luck with that plan...
A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 4 @ 7:14 PM ET
Time to move out of communist Canada šŸ‘
- Bettmanhatesus

Do you need help packing up?
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

May 4 @ 7:15 PM ET
So you donā€™t think a player that scored 19 at age 20 has value to the Canucks ?
- CanuckDon


These are the kinds of details you normally dismiss so this is funny.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

May 4 @ 7:19 PM ET
"I love him": Canucks coach Rick Tocchet sticks up for J.T. Miller.

J.T. Miller was a lightning rod of criticism for Vancouver Canucks fans, as well as local media, in 2022-23.

The Canucksā€™ star forward struggled in the first half of the season, following the signing of a seven-year, $56 million contract extension. While he was able to still produce points, his defensive play was so concerning that former head coach Bruce Boudreau had to move him from centre to the wing.

Egregious giveaways were commonplace for Miller, but that appeared to change after the hiring of Rick Tocchet.

Miller had 41 points in 46 games under Boudreau, but most of his damage was done on the power play. He scored 20 power-play points but had just 21 even-strength points. And his -16 plus-minus rating was second-worst on the team.

That changed under Tocchet, as Miller had 41 points in just 35 games after the midseason coaching change. He scored 22 even-strength points, 10 on the power play, and nine shorthanded. His plus-minus was second-best on the team, at +9.

Another critique of Miller was his attitude, given how outwardly he displayed his emotions. That was never more true than when Miller blew up at backup goalie Collin Delia during a game for not skating to the bench for an extra attacker.

Tocchet, for his part, has spoken a few times with local media about his distaste of ā€œbad body language,ā€ which some took as a shot at Miller.

But in a revealing interview with former Canucks defenceman Shane Oā€™Brien and co-host Scottie Upshall on the Missin Curfew podcast, Tocchet spoke highly of Miller.

Tocchet acknowledged that Miller has made mistakes, but also said heā€™s alright with Miller wearing his ā€œemotion on his sleeve.ā€

ā€œI love him. Heā€™s bought into what Iā€™m doing,ā€ Tocchet said. ā€œI understand, heā€™ll tell you, he made mistakes, the perception of him.

ā€œThe first thing I did guys, when I walked in and introduced myself to the team, I showed a three-minute video to the players of bad body language and bad changes. Millsy was in a couple. I said ā€˜Guys, I can put up with a lot of stuff, I want you guys to have your fun but, if youā€™re coming to the bench slow and youā€™re snapping your head back if a guy makes a bad pass to you, weā€™re going to have a problem. Thatā€™s one non-negotiable.'ā€

Tocchet indicated that Miller wasnā€™t the sole culprit, but said ā€œhe did it like everybody else.ā€ But the 30-year-old has improved in that regard, according to the Canucksā€™ bench boss.

ā€œI gotta admit, the

- Pacificgem[3-4 months] that I was there, I didnā€™t see much of that from Millsy,ā€ Tocchet added. ā€œHe turned his whole thing around. There was a stretch there when he was one of the best two-way players in the league. He had over a point a game and was shutting down the other teamā€™s best player. That line was great. Heā€™s been terrific. He just wants to win. He wears his emotion on his sleeve sometimes, and Iā€™m okay with that.ā€

Miller finished the season with 82 points in 81 games, ranking second in scoring to Elias Pettersson. He leads all Canucks players in scoring since he arrived in Vancouver in 2019, with 299 points in 283 regular games.

Tocchet reiterated that he wants his players to make smart, simple plays on nights they ā€œdonā€™t have it,ā€ rather than making mistakes. It appears Miller has been following those instructions.

ā€œA good thing about Millsy, and players like thatā€¦ you might not have it that night, for whatever reason ā€” your legs suck, you just donā€™t have it. I like the guys that stay mentally strong and just do the right things. Sometimes we donā€™t have it, guys, theyā€™re worse out there. They give the puck away, theyā€™re just terrible,ā€ said Tocchet.

ā€œOne game Millsy didnā€™t have it, and I was watching him. He just wasnā€™t making mistakes. He would dump it in, he had good angles, heā€™d come off early. Thatā€™s sometimes when I really see a character of players, where you can hang in thereā€¦ Thatā€™s development of mental toughness.ā€


I love these cherry picked pieces of how Miller was better under Tocchet vs Boudreau but completely omit the career and super star type season he had under BB that got Miller paid his huge contract. Journalism at it's best.


Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 4 @ 7:20 PM ET
I love these cherry picked pieces of how Miller was better under Tocchet vs Boudreau but completely omit the career and super star type season he had under BB that got Miller paid his huge contract. Journalism at it's best.

- boonerbuck

It was an appalling piece of fluff.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

May 4 @ 7:21 PM ET
Probably would have been better for Bo if he would STFU...
SOB is correct.

Andy Strickland
@andystrickland
Ā·
1h
Shane Oā€™Brien takes issue with Bo Horvat šŸ˜³ ā¦
@CamandStrick
ā© #Canucks #Isles

https://twitter.com/andys...tatus/1653770348905607168

- VanHockeyGuy


Ah yes,,, a loser drunk who used to show up to games and practice still stinking of booze(and get scratched for it) and dragged his ass all over the ice(when he didnt get scratched for it). He should STFU as well....
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

May 4 @ 7:21 PM ET
One idiot commenting on another idiot. Who cares.
- Marwood



Nailed it...
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

May 4 @ 7:37 PM ET
BIG vote coming up May 16th by the Tempe residents on the arena. Should pass easily and theyā€™ll get started on the new entertainment district.
- DraftandDestroy

Do you come here cause there are so few coyotes fans that you have no one to discuss it with?
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

May 4 @ 7:38 PM ET
Time to move out of communist Canada šŸ‘
- Bettmanhatesus

Hey, itā€™s been a slice! Please enjoy
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

May 4 @ 7:40 PM ET
You are the one always bringing up Bo, not me. Don't tie me into the arguments you have with Neem you useless drunk (frank)tard.
- boonerbuck

I just made fun of he ā€œdidnā€™t move the needle for that teamā€ meanwhile they went 17-5-2 after getting him
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

May 4 @ 7:41 PM ET
Donnie & Dhali
@DonnieandDhali
"It kind of reminded me of playing in Penticton.."

@troystecher
on playing in Arizona this season and at Mullett Arena.

- VANTEL

Stetcher is such a little douche
DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

May 4 @ 7:56 PM ET
Do you come here cause there are so few coyotes fans that you have no one to discuss it with?
- neem55

Whatcha mean? Iā€™m here all the time. Iā€™ve been here since 2007.
neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

May 4 @ 7:57 PM ET
Whatcha mean? Iā€™m here all the time. Iā€™ve been here since 2007.
- DraftandDestroy

Right, but the question remains the same.
DraftandDestroy
Arizona Coyotes
Location: Scottsdale, AZ
Joined: 11.15.2016

May 4 @ 8:00 PM ET
Right, but the question remains the same.
- neem55

Thereā€™s no Coyotes blog since Tanner told EK to get (frank)ed a few years ago.
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

May 4 @ 8:14 PM ET
Hey, itā€™s been a slice! Please enjoy
- neem55

Itā€™s amazing how dumb Canadians are šŸ˜†
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

May 4 @ 8:15 PM ET
Leaf meltdown incoming.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: ā€œWho are we to think weā€™re anybody?ā€ - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 4 @ 8:25 PM ET
Donnie & Dhali
@DonnieandDhali
"It kind of reminded me of playing in Penticton.."

@troystecher
on playing in Arizona this season and at Mullett Arena.

- VANTEL


SOEC is an excellent area and event centre. They are both 5000 seats, great for fans watching hockey or a concert, not so much for NHL revenue though.
boonerbuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Not Quesnel, BC
Joined: 10.11.2005

May 4 @ 8:26 PM ET
I just made fun of he ā€œdidnā€™t move the needle for that teamā€ meanwhile they went 17-5-2 after getting him
- neem55


Ya, I had a good laugh when he was saying that the Islanders were doing terrible since picking up Bo and I had to point out to him they won 6 of 7 since the trade. He's not that bright... just blurts out bullpoop thinking no one knows any better.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 4 @ 8:27 PM ET
Itā€™s amazing how dumb Canadians are šŸ˜†
- Bettmanhatesus

Starting with you, cunt wad.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: ā€œWho are we to think weā€™re anybody?ā€ - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 4 @ 8:31 PM ET
BIG vote coming up May 16th by the Tempe residents on the arena. Should pass easily and theyā€™ll get started on the new entertainment district.
- DraftandDestroy


The Coyotes may as well stay where they are, the Vee's put more fans in the seats!
Pacificgem
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Linden4Ever, BC
Joined: 07.01.2007

May 4 @ 8:36 PM ET
Starting with you, cunt wad.
- Marwood

that sounds like something the dorky kid at school who used to get beat up would say right after he got beat up.
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