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GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

May 1 @ 10:39 PM ET
Buh bye Rangers.

Despite Jersey's fine season, I didn't see that coming.

Leafs/Panthers
Devils/Hurricanes

Leafs/Devils

Leafs/Stars final

- Leaffrog


My pre-playoffs prediction was NYR over NJ but Trouba can suck a bag of Richards. Glad he lost.

Feel bad for Peter that his teams out, though.
Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 1 @ 10:39 PM ET
Did they at least call it a 5 and review it? I was out of the room at the time.
- Monkeypunk


hahah not even 2
GreatGigInTheSky
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Yeah, Garth is a tool"- Garf, ON
Joined: 06.12.2017

May 1 @ 10:41 PM ET
Did they at least call it a 5 and review it? I was out of the room at the time.
- Monkeypunk


Nope. Maybe the quickest puck drop ever after it.
Load Management
Season Ticket Holder
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

May 1 @ 10:41 PM ET
It was an ugly, predatory hit meant to injure someone who was in a vulnerable position. When you have a height advantage and when the player has his head down (not smart) the head is going to be part of the impact whether it’s primary or not. I couldn’t say if it’s illegal or not but (frank) Trouba
- Canada Cup


I can't stand Trouba. I just didn't think the hit was dirty. It was hard. But not dirty. Others are free to differ. That's what fandom is all about.
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

May 1 @ 10:44 PM ET
Rule 48.1 (ii), which states that contact with the head is allowed in cases where “the opponent put himself in a vulnerable position by assuming a posture that made head contact on an otherwise full body check unavoidable."

By the letter, it's a clean hit.
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 1 @ 10:46 PM ET
I can't stand Trouba. I just didn't think the hit was dirty. It was hard. But not dirty. Others are free to differ. That's what fandom is all about.
- Load Management

I just saw the once. I didn’t see the replays. I’d say it was dirty. I just don’t know if it was illegal or not. If it wasn’t, I’d like to see the rules changed to better address predatory hits that are intended to injure.
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

May 1 @ 10:48 PM ET
I just saw the once. I didn’t see the replays. I’d say it was dirty. I just don’t know if it was illegal or not. If it wasn’t, I’d like to see the rules changed to better address predatory hits that are intended to injure.
- Canada Cup

https://twitter.com/Hocke...nN479AoA9X9xye5Jvx2g&s=19
Canada Cup
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Not here to sell jerseys , ON
Joined: 07.06.2007

May 1 @ 10:52 PM ET
https://twitter.com/Hocke...nN479AoA9X9xye5Jvx2g&s=19
- wreckage

Early Morning Rain

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZFJ5Bj_put0
joel878
Joined: 06.13.2009

May 1 @ 10:53 PM ET
Ok, I'm out if it's going to devolve into name calling. The Officials that were on the ice saw it the same way I did. Nobody wants to see guys get hurt. But it's also a high speed contact sport with hitting.
- Load Management


What was name calling? The allusion to 'primitive types'? 🤔

I have to ask, I find it a bit odd that someone so quick to defend such a vicious hit would also be soft enough to find anything in that a called name 🤣

I never said if it was clean or dirty. What I said was if that's a clean hit and they want to seriously work at getting head injuries out of the game, that's the kind of hit that needs to not be clean.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

May 1 @ 10:54 PM ET
Rule 48.1 (ii), which states that contact with the head is allowed in cases where “the opponent put himself in a vulnerable position by assuming a posture that made head contact on an otherwise full body check unavoidable."

By the letter, it's a clean hit.

- wreckage


But it is avoidable in that he doesn't have to plow through him in an attempt to injure him. He can literally stand him up. Driving through a player's head is illegal in every league everywhere now from every age to every age.

Judging by the NHL's handling of similar hits this year, I'm not saying you're wrong - I'm saying you should be.

I still say that the hit with that applied force is it's own penalty and suspensible infraction (attempt to injure), but there has been no traction there this year, so what I say is more screaming into the void.
underhill14
Location: I think I'll just sit back stage until somebody that matters calls me out.-King of HB Systemtool
Joined: 06.02.2010

May 1 @ 10:55 PM ET
The Trouba hit was (frank)ed IMO, but, also a clean hit that follows the rule...someone posted that actual rule above.

Problem is...if a Leaf player does it I immediately feel like its a clean hit but then they end up suspended forever. If an opposing player does it to a Leaf, I want to (frank)ing kill everyone as fast and as soon as I can especially the Refs.

I have no clue how to clean up the game any more than they have. Same with football. At some point you devolve so far down the head safety rabbit hole that you end up with soccer or badminton and it will no longer be hockey. (a bit of an exaggeration but I'm sure you all get the point)

Contact sports are a dying breed me thinks. Especially as the rules whittle away at the actual essence of the game unless someone invents head and neck tech to absorb impact differently.

Such a dichotomy, for me at least.


My ECF and Cup calls:

Leafs v Carolina

Leafs v Vegas for the Cup.

Book it!

wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

May 1 @ 11:01 PM ET
But it is avoidable in that he doesn't have to plow through him in an attempt to injure him. He can literally stand him up. Driving through a player's head is illegal in every league everywhere now from every age to every age.

Judging by the NHL's handling of similar hits this year, I'm not saying you're wrong - I'm saying you should be.

I still say that the hit with that applied force is it's own penalty and suspensible infraction (attempt to injure), but there has been no traction there this year, so what I say is more screaming into the void.

- Monkeypunk


I'm not disagreeing with any of this. It was a violent and unnecessary hit. But, by the NHL's rule book, it's legal.

End if the game Meier was in the handshake line and gave Trouba the "no worries" pat on the shoulder.
Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: The centre of the hockey universe
Joined: 07.31.2006

May 1 @ 11:04 PM ET
You fellas need to quit arguing about whether it was a clean hit or not, and start arguing about whether it should be a clean hit or not.

Because it’s pretty obvious none of us know, because the NHL is so franking random with their application of rules.
sokosteve
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Gwangyang
Joined: 06.24.2018

May 1 @ 11:07 PM ET
Clean or not, there was intent to injure/maim/murder. That should count for something.

Sucks about Gordon Lightfoot. What a gem.
Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON
Joined: 02.28.2011

May 1 @ 11:24 PM ET
The Trouba hit was (frank)ed IMO, but, also a clean hit that follows the rule...someone posted that actual rule above.

Problem is...if a Leaf player does it I immediately feel like its a clean hit but then they end up suspended forever. If an opposing player does it to a Leaf, I want to (frank)ing kill everyone as fast and as soon as I can especially the Refs.

I have no clue how to clean up the game any more than they have. Same with football. At some point you devolve so far down the head safety rabbit hole that you end up with soccer or badminton and it will no longer be hockey. (a bit of an exaggeration but I'm sure you all get the point)

Contact sports are a dying breed me thinks. Especially as the rules whittle away at the actual essence of the game unless someone invents head and neck tech to absorb impact differently.

Such a dichotomy, for me at least.


My ECF and Cup calls:

Leafs v Carolina

Leafs v Vegas for the Cup.

Book it!

- underhill14


I'm thinking Leafs vs. Jersey

Leafs vs. Edmonton
Drapz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 07.10.2007

May 1 @ 11:25 PM ET
You fellas need to quit arguing about whether it was a clean hit or not, and start arguing about whether it should be a clean hit or not.

Because it’s pretty obvious none of us know, because the NHL is so franking random with their application of rules.

- Atomic Wedgie


That was incredibly wreckless on Troubas part and was poor sportsmanship and should be as illegal as Buntings. What's your take?
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 1 @ 11:31 PM ET
Did they somehow change that part? Was the head the first and principal point of contact? He is in a vulnerable position - you don't nail him in the head. It's headed for a billion dollar concussion lawsuit in the future - because they clearly learned nothing from their last loss.
- Monkeypunk


He’s skating forward.

Just because your head is down it doesn’t mean he can’t be hit.

You are going a bit too far with this lawsuit stuff.

He came back and shook hands over it, both teams recognized it was a clean hit.
Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.20.2014

May 1 @ 11:32 PM ET
That was incredibly wreckless on Troubas part and was poor sportsmanship and should be as illegal as Buntings. What's your take?
- Drapz

Both teams and Meier didn’t give a (frank) about it when it was all said and done, there is your answer
Drapz
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Windsor, ON
Joined: 07.10.2007

May 1 @ 11:33 PM ET
Both teams and Meier didn’t give a (frank) about it when it was all said and done, there is your answer
- Santo_44

Your team is up in game 7 are you taking a penalty?
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

May 1 @ 11:40 PM ET
He’s skating forward.

Just because your head is down it doesn’t mean he can’t be hit.

You are going a bit too far with this lawsuit stuff.

He came back and shook hands over it, both teams recognized it was a clean hit.

- Santo_44


Yeah I'm sure the NFL used "they shook hands" as their defense about CTE too.


This is a moronic argument about the hit.
Monkeypunk
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Whenever, wherever, ON
Joined: 06.27.2013

May 1 @ 11:54 PM ET
He’s skating forward.

Just because your head is down it doesn’t mean he can’t be hit.

You are going a bit too far with this lawsuit stuff.

He came back and shook hands over it, both teams recognized it was a clean hit.

- Santo_44


How many times does a concussed player come back and do things in the NHL? we both know it's a lot more than 0. He may even have escaped injury, but that doesn't mean that guys hit before him haven't or guys hit just like him won't in the future.

The hit may be within the awkward parameters of the rules, but it is not a clean hit.

So, no, I'm really not trying to go too far with the lawsuit stuff. They settled a massive concussion lawsuit that resulted in $19m in payouts to over 300 former players. Some of the conditions surrounding that were that the NHL was already doing things to mitigate future problems. Other major sports - most notably the NFL obviously - with larger bankrolls than the NHL - have done more to mitigate these injuries and done more for their players and player safety.

When a number of players from this era of players is suffering debilitating CTE issues or otherwise later in life, I very much fear that the fact that the NHL paid lip service to a slap on the wrist settlement is going to come back and bite them in the ass.
Aaron_85
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 04.22.2014

May 2 @ 12:44 AM ET
Ranger fans sound like leaf fans tonight
Azuredoom
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 01.14.2019

May 2 @ 1:50 AM ET
Trouba's hit was ok for me.. It was hard and brutal but Mier's posture there was head forward skating with the puck entering the zone..MCabe had 2 hits that could have looked exactly like.

If you want to lay blame he has as much if not more blame than Trouba..

What is that saying "Keep your head up"
wreckage
Florida Panthers
Location: Fuck Putin, fire Holland, AB
Joined: 07.29.2013

May 2 @ 2:12 AM ET
Trouba's hit was ok for me.. It was hard and brutal but Mier's posture there was head forward skating with the puck entering the zone..MCabe had 2 hits that could have looked exactly like.

If you want to lay blame he has as much if not more blame than Trouba..

What is that saying "Keep your head up"

- Azuredoom

Or look both ways before crossing? Because clearly Meier didn't look both ways before crossing the blue line there. And that one is for common sense, not a hockey rule.
Skalapy
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I'm sick of your "I play real , NC
Joined: 07.11.2006

May 2 @ 5:12 AM ET
beauty of a hit by trouba👊

gosh i wish dufuss would’ve scooped this guy up when he was ufa a few years ago 🤦🏿‍♂️😭
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