Aaron_85
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Location: Toronto, ON Joined: 04.22.2014
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These are Ullmark's numbers in Boston: In 8 post-season games with Bruins Ulmark has 3 wins, 3.54 GAA and SV% 0.888.
I'd really like the talking heads to sucking off Boston for finding such an amazing goalie. He is another Hamburgler. |
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joegreif17
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Location: Hockeyville, BC Joined: 05.10.2009
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Bunting was a major player in this series, but not by lighting the lamp. Taking out Cernak collapsed the Bolt's defense. Hedman was playing hurt and there was nobody but rookies and replacement level guys to fill the gap. Cole is Cole, but he's no McDonagh. That really hurt. But honestly, it felt like it was karma for Cernak. That guy has been a headhunter earlier in his career.
I like Jeannot, just not the price we paid for him.
Point has been banged up the last two playoffs. I'm starting to think he's another Stamkos. Absolutely dangerous when 100%, but often playing well below that due to injuries. Without him at center, the Lightning have no other 1C candidate. Cirelli? He'd get caved as a 1C. Kuch would fetch a big return, so I'd listen to offers and wait for one that blows my skirt up. But honestly, I think this roster might have another kick at the can, maybe. I wouldn't blow it up yet. We got three good young Russians. - GalacticStone
I totally agree Bunting had a big part in the series while he was suspended, lol. The Bolts have always had injury issues with their core. However Sergachev has had tremendous growth and is not the #1 dman and you need a healthy Hedman. I see a decline in Stamkos which will only get worse and Vasilevsky was really not the same guy this year. Was it him or team defence ?? Probably both.
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GalacticStone
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: We shoulda let Uncle Billy finish the job. Joined: 01.29.2013
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Moving a Point and or Kucherov would replenish your draft picks and free up cap space to pick up a couple of free agents. The Lightning could be back in contention in a couple of years. Boston needs to also do something similar. - PrinceLH
Sergachev, Vasi, and Kuch still have some tread on the tires yet, so I think that's a good core to make a run on. Assuming Cup Vasi shows up. Point isn't a geezer and neither is Cirelli. So that's a 1D, 1C, elite goalie (or average starter at worst), Top-3 league winger, and a 2C. Most teams would blow things up to get to that point.
I honestly wouldn't blow it up yet. I think the Bolts are still contenders, but Briesbois has some serious to work to do. He might be out of time and runway. You might be right. I hope you are wrong though. |
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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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Terrible trade. I don't even understand how Tampa even considered this. - Scabeh
It balances out some of the previous moves Tampa made that were really good. |
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joegreif17
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Location: Hockeyville, BC Joined: 05.10.2009
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These are Ullmark's numbers in Boston: In 8 post-season games with Bruins Ulmark has 3 wins, 3.54 GAA and SV% 0.888.
I'd really like the talking heads to sucking off Boston for finding such an amazing goalie. He is another Hamburgler. - Aaron_85
Exactly, normally he spends a month on the IR and he escaped that this year. Swayman will be 50/50 or steal. Fortunately for me in my keeper I managed to trade Ullmark for Sorokin straight up. I took a hit in bonus points but I am thrilled with this robbery.
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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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Sergachev, Vasi, and Kuch still have some tread on the tires yet, so I think that's a good core to make a run on. Assuming Cup Vasi shows up. Point isn't a geezer and neither is Cirelli. So that's a 1D, 1C, elite goalie (or average starter at worst), Top-3 league winger, and a 2C. Most teams would blow things up to get to that point.
I honestly wouldn't blow it up yet. I think the Bolts are still contenders, but Briesbois has some serious to work to do. He might be out of time and runway. You might be right. I hope you are wrong though. - GalacticStone
Yeah I wouldn't blow it up. They aren't that old. Honestly Toronto probably was less deserving of this series win than they were last year. That's hockey.
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Scabeh
Montreal Canadiens |
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Location: The Slovakian Jagr, QC Joined: 02.25.2007
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Yeah I wouldn't blow it up. They aren't that old. Honestly Toronto probably was less deserving of this series win than they were last year. That's hockey. - Zezel
Bang on.
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GalacticStone
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: We shoulda let Uncle Billy finish the job. Joined: 01.29.2013
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I totally agree Bunting had a big part in the series while he was suspended, lol. The Bolts have always had injury issues with their core. However Sergachev has had tremendous growth and is not the #1 dman and you need a healthy Hedman. I see a decline in Stamkos which will only get worse and Vasilevsky was really not the same guy this year. Was it him or team defence ?? Probably both. - joegreif17
I think Vasi is just tired, mentally and physically. He has covered up a lot of shoddy defensemen over his tenure. He concealed the Lightning's defensive warts.
Hedman and Stamkos are both in decline now. Still better than average at their positions and elite at one or two aspects of their game, but their availability and performance is sure to go downhill fast in the next couple of seasons.
I haven't seen the exit interviews yet. Not sure who was banged up. But honestly, the Leafs were due and the Bolts were ripe for the picking. Give the Leafs credit.
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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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Oh, just a periodic reminder for the haters and downers with those first round chirps, keep sucking it. 💝 |
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Atomic Wedgie
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: The centre of the hockey universe Joined: 07.31.2006
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These are Ullmark's numbers in Boston: In 8 post-season games with Bruins Ulmark has 3 wins, 3.54 GAA and SV% 0.888.
I'd really like the talking heads to sucking off Boston for finding such an amazing goalie. He is another Hamburgler. - Aaron_85
Apparently he was hurt.
Which makes the decision to play him over Swayman very puzzling. |
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GalacticStone
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: We shoulda let Uncle Billy finish the job. Joined: 01.29.2013
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Yeah I wouldn't blow it up. They aren't that old. Honestly Toronto probably was less deserving of this series win than they were last year. That's hockey. - Zezel
Last year could have easily gone the other way. It aged me. Looking back, I felt more entitled as a Lightning fan then, and I expected the Bolts to win, even though the Leafs arguably deserved it. Vasi did Vasi things and stole a few games. This year, even though the fancy stats favored the Lightning, it just felt ominous. After the Leafs responded to the Game One spanking, my heart sank. I knew then what was coming.
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GalacticStone
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: We shoulda let Uncle Billy finish the job. Joined: 01.29.2013
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Oh, just a periodic reminder for the haters and downers with those first round chirps, keep sucking it. 💝 - Zezel
It sounds cheesy, but confidence is a huge thing. The Leafs have it now. Look out. |
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joegreif17
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Location: Hockeyville, BC Joined: 05.10.2009
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I think Vasi is just tired, mentally and physically. He has covered up a lot of shoddy defensemen over his tenure. He concealed the Lightning's defensive warts.
Hedman and Stamkos are both in decline now. Still better than average at their positions and elite at one or two aspects of their game, but their availability and performance is sure to go downhill fast in the next couple of seasons.
I haven't seen the exit interviews yet. Not sure who was banged up. But honestly, the Leafs were due and the Bolts were ripe for the picking. Give the Leafs credit. - GalacticStone
Well said and agreed. I also meant Sergachev is the #1 dman going forward. |
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PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Belleville, ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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Their deadline trades this year really busted, that hurts them. - Zezel
Good for the Leafs going forward. But like Empires, they rise, they fall and other empires rise to take their place. Ottawa, Buffalo and Detroit are starting the upswing, in another year after, the Habs will start to ascend. Boston will revert to a Wildcard team, as will Tampa. Whoever gets smarter between those two, will step back, retool and come back quicker. It's a mistake to continue to try to win, when your core has reached the point of slippage. Pittsburgh is a prime example of this. Great core, all over 35. They have nowhere to go but down. Boston still has some young assets on the back end and could conceivably rebuild their forwards roster if they get smart and move on from Krejci and Bergeron.
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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Yeah I'm sure the NFL used "they shook hands" as their defense about CTE too.
This is a moronic argument about the hit. - Aaron_85
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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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It sounds cheesy, but confidence is a huge thing. The Leafs have it now. Look out. - GalacticStone
Yeah, it is huge. If the Leafs' core goes into the next series with some swagger it means a lot. A guy like Marner in particular, I think when he's playing a daring game he's at his most dangerous.
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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Savage article evaluating the Jeannot trade:
https://www.yardbarker.co...n_years/s1_17176_38765290
At the time of the deal, Frank Seravalli of Daily Faceoff wrote, “Multiple NHL GMs are stunned by the return. Like jaws on the floor.” One Twitter user (@WizKidBrandon) pointed out: “As an RFA this summer, the Preds could have walked from an $8.4M per year offer sheet on Jeannot (insane to even think about) and received LESS (1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks total) than they got back in this trade. Wowzers.”
In the end, Jeannot got no points in the playoffs, played three games, got beat up by Luke Schenn, and was eventually made a healthy scratch. - Atomic Wedgie
meh, if Dubas won 2 cups and went to a 3rd final...id be fine if he made a couple moves that turned out to be crap.
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PrinceLH
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: Belleville, ON Joined: 07.06.2007
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Yeah I wouldn't blow it up. They aren't that old. Honestly Toronto probably was less deserving of this series win than they were last year. That's hockey. - Zezel
In some aspects, yes. However, Tampa was only able to sustain their forecheck for about 40 minutes each game. As the third periods unfolded, the Leafs would look stronger. By the time overtime got past the first 5 minutes, you could see the Lightning slowing down and the Leafs passing game accelerating. A lot of the Leafs good favour came from having Samsonov being stellar when they needed him. He wasn't great, early in the series, but was better as the series went on. Another issue was the play of Justin Holl. If the Leafs had benched him sooner, this might have ended in 5.
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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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Good for the Leafs going forward. But like Empires, they rise, they fall and other empires rise to take their place. Ottawa, Buffalo and Detroit are starting the upswing, in another year after, the Habs will start to ascend. Boston will revert to a Wildcard team, as will Tampa. Whoever gets smarter between those two, will step back, retool and come back quicker. It's a mistake to continue to try to win, when your core has reached the point of slippage. Pittsburgh is a prime example of this. Great core, all over 35. They have nowhere to go but down. Boston still has some young assets on the back end and could conceivably rebuild their forwards roster if they get smart and move on from Krejci and Bergeron. - PrinceLH
I think I'm more bullish on Tampa than you, but overall I agree. I agree with the guys on Overdrive last night who said Tampa will probably be better than Boston next year. I think Boston will take the biggest step back (which is obviously expected given their crazy season).
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Santo_44
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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meh, if Dubas won 2 cups and went to a 3rd final...id be fine if he made a couple moves that turned out to be crap. - senstroll
Did the GM that made the Jeannot trade win any cups? |
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Zezel
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: God Leafs Satan The Oneness, ON Joined: 02.28.2011
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In some aspects, yes. However, Tampa was only able to sustain their forecheck for about 40 minutes each game. As the third periods unfolded, the Leafs would look stronger. By the time overtime got past the first 5 minutes, you could see the Lightning slowing down and the Leafs passing game accelerating. A lot of the Leafs good favour came from having Samsonov being stellar when they needed him. He wasn't great, early in the series, but was better as the series went on. Another issue was the play of Justin Holl. If the Leafs had benched him sooner, this might have ended in 5. - PrinceLH
That's true, the Leafs did hang around and then pick up steam in games.
I think a mistake the Leafs avoided paying for ultimately was scratching Bunting for Game 5. Didn't like that move of scratching your 5th highest scorer who plays with jam during a playoff game, when he's rested. Horrific call by Keefe that he got away with in the end.
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Santo_44
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Joined: 10.20.2014
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I think I'm more bullish on Tampa than you, but overall I agree. I agree with the guys on Overdrive last night who said Tampa will probably be better than Boston next year. I think Boston will take the biggest step back (which is obviously expected given their crazy season). - Zezel
No Bergeron
Likely no Krejci
4.5M in cap penalties
a million UFA's
100000% step back from a .938% starting goalie
I think they miss playoffs |
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Adam French
Atlanta Thrashers |
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Location: Isn't Cooley 5"11? You know who else is 5"11? Sydney Crosby. - Scabeh Joined: 04.06.2011
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I think I'm more bullish on Tampa than you, but overall I agree. I agree with the guys on Overdrive last night who said Tampa will probably be better than Boston next year. I think Boston will take the biggest step back (which is obviously expected given their crazy season). - Zezel
I agree, but people said that this past offseason saying they might even miss the playoffs...*check the standings* |
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senstroll
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Location: Leafs AAV Champs, ON Joined: 02.22.2008
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Did the GM that made the Jeannot trade win any cups? - Santo_44
wut
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gravyface
Toronto Maple Leafs |
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Location: I wouldn't even trade [Marner] for McDavid -- UsernameUnknown Joined: 02.19.2009
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hopefully Lliljegren's pace (Being better than Holl's) will be beneficial. Lliljegren played quite well against Florida in the late season meeting from what I remember.
will be interested to see how McCabe recovers - he looked completely gassed at the end of Game6 vs Tampa. - BorjeFan4Ever
I like our D depth a lot, and honestly, 11F/7D makes a ton of sense given our roster.
Guys like Lafferty or ZAR could easily sit to give our core more minutes, toss Nylander out there with ROR's line for a few shifts, load up the top line with 16/34/88, etc. |
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