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Isleshockeyman
New York Islanders
Location: Lou is our savior
Joined: 11.05.2014

May 8 @ 7:42 PM ET
Holy poop when did they let you out of jail?
Stirring the pot? Thats never done here.

I vote a re-tool

- nyisles7


Paroled 2 days ago.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 8 @ 7:55 PM ET
Yep. Agree with all of this. I can't really remember when the coach/GM/owners would usually address the media...has it been a longer-than-usual period of silence? Maybe they are really going to shake things up. I'm under the assumption it'll still be Lou's show and that he's more interested in adding a piece or two to go for it than trying to reset the whole thing.
- UIF

Something is happening. Way too quiet.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

May 8 @ 8:00 PM ET
Something is happening. Way too quiet.
- Cptmjl


Garth Snow is coming back to finish what he started.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 8 @ 8:02 PM ET
Garth Snow is coming back to finish what he started.
- UIF





Did Garth actually start something?
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

May 8 @ 8:04 PM ET
Paroled 2 days ago.
- Isleshockeyman


What was the offense?
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

May 8 @ 8:08 PM ET
I'd take Tarasenko. I feel like our best opportunity to retool was the trade deadline, and with that opportunity behind us and not much left to flip for picks/prospects/young talent, maybe we should just ride the "go for it" train to the last stop at this point.
- UIF


I don't think they can. There isn't much left to trade. I liked L&M bringing in Lou. Let's face it, he gave up the near future for a mediocre team. They are stuck smack in the middle right now.

It's time for a new vision.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

May 8 @ 8:12 PM ET


Did Garth actually start something?

- ses111


Well, he did get lucky enough to have Lee drop into his lap in late rounds. He also got lucky enough to have Barzal drop into his lap.

We can trash his abilities, but the man has incredible luck.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 8 @ 8:17 PM ET
I don't think they can. There isn't much left to trade. I liked L&M bringing in Lou. Let's face it, he gave up the near future for a mediocre team. They are stuck in smack in the middle right now.

It's time for a new vision.

- JimmyP


If there was ever a time, it would be now.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 8 @ 8:18 PM ET
Well, he did get lucky enough to have Lee drop into his lap in late rounds. He also got lucky enough to have Barzal drop into his lap.

We can trash his abilities, but the man has incredible luck.

- JimmyP


Sorokin as well.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 8 @ 8:29 PM ET
Garth Snow is coming back to finish what he started.
- UIF

Getting my billboard ready.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

May 8 @ 8:29 PM ET


Did Garth actually start something?

- ses111


I mean, I guess in some ways we're still kind of watching it

Barzal, Lee, Nelson, Pelech, Pulock, Bailey, Cizikas, Martin, Clutterbuck, Mayfield...even Sorokin!

I've always said if the man could have just swallowed his pride and hired a coach who would overshadow him as the brains of the operation, his teams may well have made a good run or two.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 8 @ 8:35 PM ET
I mean, I guess in some ways we're still kind of watching it

Barzal, Lee, Nelson, Pelech, Pulock, Bailey, Cizikas, Martin, Clutterbuck, Mayfield...even Sorokin!

I've always said if the man could have just swallowed his pride and hired a coach who would overshadow him as the brains of the operation, his teams may well have made a good run or two.

- UIF


It could have been very different with a good coach. It's very doubtful it was a money issue that prevented hiring a good coach. It's incredible this is still very much Garth's team.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

May 8 @ 8:38 PM ET
I don't think they can. There isn't much left to trade. I liked L&M bringing in Lou. Let's face it, he gave up the near future for a mediocre team. They are stuck smack in the middle right now.

It's time for a new vision.

- JimmyP


I guess I look at it the opposite way...there's nothing really to tear down and rebuild at this point since so much is locked up in big, immovable contracts. They can declare a new vision, but what's the next step? Maybe they can make some moves around the edges, but the core isn't going anywhere...the players who don't have NTCs pretty much have them by default based on the years/dollars they're owed. So, it'd probably be at least two, maybe three years, when some of the contracts come off the books, before any really big changes could begin.

In the meantime, they might as well make the most of those two/three years and try for another run or two?
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 8 @ 8:42 PM ET
I guess I look at it the opposite way...there's nothing really to tear down and rebuild at this point since so much is locked up in big, immovable contracts. They can declare a new vision, but what's the next step? Maybe they can make some moves around the edges, but the core isn't going anywhere...the players who don't have NTCs pretty much have them by default based on the years/dollars they're owed. So, it'd probably be at least two, maybe three years, when some of the contracts come off the books, before any really big changes could begin.

In the meantime, they might as well make the most of those two/three years and try for another run or two?

- UIF


If the Islanders want Lou to come back, what length of contract do they even give him? Just feels the perfect time to move on if his contract his up.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 8 @ 8:44 PM ET


He's going to walk up to the podium in that outfit and ask us all to call him Louise Lamoriello now.

- UIF


LMFAO!
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 8 @ 8:45 PM ET
Paroled 2 days ago.
- Isleshockeyman



keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: REJECTED REFEREE
Joined: 07.12.2007

May 8 @ 8:50 PM ET
Bedard to Chicago. No controversy in how that was announced
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 8 @ 8:51 PM ET
So Chicago loses Kane and Toews and now get Bedard. Gotta take care of the original 6 big TV market teams. The NHL is so predictable.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 8 @ 8:54 PM ET
Bedard to Chicago. No controversy in how that was announced
- keaner17


The deserve it after putting up with Kane and then trading Kane to the Rangers to wreck their season.
kindlyrick
New York Islanders
Location: Dallas, TX
Joined: 06.21.2007

May 8 @ 9:05 PM ET
Bedard to Chicago. No controversy in how that was announced
- keaner17


Until or unless they televise the lottery drawing, you can’t convince me it’s not rigged. The math doesn’t work.
JimmyP
New York Islanders
Location: Snow has melted!
Joined: 02.12.2011

May 8 @ 9:52 PM ET
I guess I look at it the opposite way...there's nothing really to tear down and rebuild at this point since so much is locked up in big, immovable contracts. They can declare a new vision, but what's the next step? Maybe they can make some moves around the edges, but the core isn't going anywhere...the players who don't have NTCs pretty much have them by default based on the years/dollars they're owed. So, it'd probably be at least two, maybe three years, when some of the contracts come off the books, before any really big changes could begin.

In the meantime, they might as well make the most of those two/three years and try for another run or two?

- UIF


But how? I'm not not attacking you UIF, but I don't see a way they can do that. They don't have much trade bait. Unless you count Sorokin which I would guess that all here would say is off the table.
PeteM
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 07.10.2007

May 8 @ 10:19 PM ET
It could have been very different with a good coach. It's very doubtful it was a money issue that prevented hiring a good coach. It's incredible this is still very much Garth's team.
- ses111


He wanted a Yes Man. I feel like he was making line up decisions and Capuano and Weight just went along.
PeteM
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 07.10.2007

May 8 @ 10:21 PM ET
So Chicago loses Kane and Toews and now get Bedard. Gotta take care of the original 6 big TV market teams. The NHL is so predictable.
- nyisles7


Not surprised although my money was on Montreal.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 8 @ 10:44 PM ET
But how? I'm not not attacking you UIF, but I don't see a way they can do that. They don't have much trade bait. Unless you count Sorokin which I would guess that all here would say is off the table.
- JimmyP


I do not see a way either Jimmy. I hope they are not moving next year's #1 as well. I thought the smart move was to keep this year's #1 and get a look at Raty decide how to move forward this offseason.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 8 @ 11:08 PM ET
Not surprised although my money was on Montreal.
- PeteM


Yeah I could see a Canadian Team getting a bone but I think Chicago is just to big a TV market.
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