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UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

May 9 @ 12:04 AM ET
But how? I'm not not attacking you UIF, but I don't see a way they can do that. They don't have much trade bait. Unless you count Sorokin which I would guess that all here would say is off the table.
- JimmyP


It's a really good question!

If I was going to make a case for it, I'd say they lost to a good team that plays a really tough system. Carolina's given the Devils just as many fits as they gave the Isles, so they're for real even with all their injuries. With just a bit more finish, the Isles maybe take that series and hang right in there with the Devils in the second round the way the Canes are.

Maybe that extra scoring punch is brought in from the outside...they somehow clear enough cap space and convince a proven free agent to sign here. Maybe it comes from within...Horvat plays at least like the player he was in Vancouver a year ago, let alone the one he was earlier this season; and Wahlstrom comes back determined to make up for lost time, adding scoring support on the wing they didn't really have most of this season. Combined with Nelson and a healthy Barzal, they might have some decent weapons already for next season, and anything guys like Lee and Palmieri can contribute above and beyond what they did this year would be a welcome bonus.

Dobson and Romanov will each be a year older with a year's more experience, so maybe they take the next step in their development and really shore up the D, even pushing Pulock and Pelech for more of their ice time. They already have the goaltending to hang with just about anyone. It's probably the most frustrating message to pitch to the fans, but maybe this team -- hopefully with an upgrade but possibly even without -- can turn in a better result than it did this season.

I'm not really convinced by anything I just typed either, but it's not an impossible scenario, and, given the situation they're in with contracts and everything, it might be the best of a bunch of bad options.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 9 @ 12:18 AM ET
It's a really good question!

If I was going to make a case for it, I'd say they lost to a good team that plays a really tough system. Carolina's given the Devils just as many fits as they gave the Isles, so they're for real even with all their injuries. With just a bit more finish, the Isles maybe take that series and hang right in there with the Devils in the second round the way the Canes are.

Maybe that extra scoring punch is brought in from the outside...they somehow clear enough cap space and convince a proven free agent to sign here. Maybe it comes from within...Horvat plays at least like the player he was in Vancouver a year ago, let alone the one he was earlier this season; and Wahlstrom comes back determined to make up for lost time, adding scoring support on the wing they didn't really have most of this season. Combined with Nelson and a healthy Barzal, they might have some decent weapons already for next season, and anything guys like Lee and Palmieri can contribute above and beyond what they did this year would be a welcome bonus.

Dobson and Romanov will each be a year older with a year's more experience, so maybe they take the next step in their development and really shore up the D, even pushing Pulock and Pelech for more of their ice time. They already have the goaltending to hang with just about anyone. It's probably the most frustrating message to pitch to the fans, but maybe this team -- hopefully with an upgrade but possibly even without -- can turn in a better result than it did this season.

I'm not really convinced by anything I just typed either, but it's not an impossible scenario, and, given the situation they're in with contracts and everything, it might be the best of a bunch of bad options.

- UIF


Not much of it on here, but I like it.


UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

May 9 @ 12:24 AM ET
Not much of it on here, but I like it.



- nyisles7

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 9 @ 6:19 AM ET
It's a really good question!

If I was going to make a case for it, I'd say they lost to a good team that plays a really tough system. Carolina's given the Devils just as many fits as they gave the Isles, so they're for real even with all their injuries. With just a bit more finish, the Isles maybe take that series and hang right in there with the Devils in the second round the way the Canes are.

Maybe that extra scoring punch is brought in from the outside...they somehow clear enough cap space and convince a proven free agent to sign here. Maybe it comes from within...Horvat plays at least like the player he was in Vancouver a year ago, let alone the one he was earlier this season; and Wahlstrom comes back determined to make up for lost time, adding scoring support on the wing they didn't really have most of this season. Combined with Nelson and a healthy Barzal, they might have some decent weapons already for next season, and anything guys like Lee and Palmieri can contribute above and beyond what they did this year would be a welcome bonus.

Dobson and Romanov will each be a year older with a year's more experience, so maybe they take the next step in their development and really shore up the D, even pushing Pulock and Pelech for more of their ice time. They already have the goaltending to hang with just about anyone. It's probably the most frustrating message to pitch to the fans, but maybe this team -- hopefully with an upgrade but possibly even without -- can turn in a better result than it did this season.

I'm not really convinced by anything I just typed either, but it's not an impossible scenario, and, given the situation they're in with contracts and everything, it might be the best of a bunch of bad options.

- UIF

Yep pretty much this. Lameriello completely dropped the ball in a strategic sense this past TDL. There very well may have been a better opportunity to ice a more competitive team this upcoming season if he dumped what he could’ve and gained some assets. I don’t think we would’ve got a ton but we would have had more then we have now in a very good draft to trade or actually make the picks. If lameriello gets axed it will be because of the Horvat trade imo.

Bottom line is here we are with little to no options but to continue to try and go for it. Where we disagree is I honestly don’t see it leading to us being real competitive with the obvious regression of our unmovable players. It would be a stars being in line for us miracle between staying healthy and everyone playing at a much higher level then we’ve seen the last couple of seasons. I unfortunately fully expect mediocrity for this team and any perspective UFA’s will more then likely look at this team the same way. I’m hoping for a different outcome but I’m not really sure how.
LItransplant44
Season Ticket Holder
New York Islanders
Location: Wesley Chapel, FL
Joined: 04.25.2016

May 9 @ 7:21 AM ET
need to get Lee to waive his No trade/movement clause. this would be a great 1st step.
PeteM
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 07.10.2007

May 9 @ 7:29 AM ET
It's a really good question!

If I was going to make a case for it, I'd say they lost to a good team that plays a really tough system. Carolina's given the Devils just as many fits as they gave the Isles, so they're for real even with all their injuries. With just a bit more finish, the Isles maybe take that series and hang right in there with the Devils in the second round the way the Canes are.

Maybe that extra scoring punch is brought in from the outside...they somehow clear enough cap space and convince a proven free agent to sign here. Maybe it comes from within...Horvat plays at least like the player he was in Vancouver a year ago, let alone the one he was earlier this season; and Wahlstrom comes back determined to make up for lost time, adding scoring support on the wing they didn't really have most of this season. Combined with Nelson and a healthy Barzal, they might have some decent weapons already for next season, and anything guys like Lee and Palmieri can contribute above and beyond what they did this year would be a welcome bonus.

Dobson and Romanov will each be a year older with a year's more experience, so maybe they take the next step in their development and really shore up the D, even pushing Pulock and Pelech for more of their ice time. They already have the goaltending to hang with just about anyone. It's probably the most frustrating message to pitch to the fans, but maybe this team -- hopefully with an upgrade but possibly even without -- can turn in a better result than it did this season.

I'm not really convinced by anything I just typed either, but it's not an impossible scenario, and, given the situation they're in with contracts and everything, it might be the best of a bunch of bad options.

- UIF


As usual with this team, too many mights and maybes.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 9 @ 7:40 AM ET
As usual with this team, too many mights and maybes.

- PeteM

Yep. Hoping for everything to break right with the odds in favor of that not happening is not a recipe for success.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 9 @ 7:53 AM ET
need to get Lee to waive his No trade/movement clause. this would be a great 1st step.
- LItransplant44

Not really sure why he would do that and then you have the problem that nobody would want him anyway.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 9 @ 10:03 AM ET
Well thank god we'll only see Bedard twice a year
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 9 @ 10:43 AM ET
Colorado Avalanche
@Avalanche
Colorado Avalanche captain Gabriel Landeskog will undergo a cartilage transplant in his right knee on May 10. The surgery will be performed by Dr. Brian Cole at the Rush University Medical Center in Chicago. The 30-year-old forward is expected to miss the entire 2023-24 season.


Oooof
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 9 @ 10:53 AM ET
Colorado Avalanche
@Avalanche
Colorado Avalanche captain Gabriel Landeskog will undergo a cartilage transplant in his right knee on May 10. The surgery will be performed by Dr. Brian Cole at the Rush University Medical Center in Chicago. The 30-year-old forward is expected to miss the entire 2023-24 season.


Oooof

- eichiefs9

May be career ending.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 9 @ 10:56 AM ET
May be career ending.
- Cptmjl

Apparently Marc Methot had the same surgery and it seems like it was

Marc Methot @MarcMethot3
2m
I had the same surgery performed on my left knee. It’s a brutal rehab process and mine never recovered to a point that made skating at the NHL level possible. However, I do wish him well and hopefully he gets back to playing.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 9 @ 11:17 AM ET
Apparently Marc Methot had the same surgery and it seems like it was

Marc Methot @MarcMethot3
2m
I had the same surgery performed on my left knee. It’s a brutal rehab process and mine never recovered to a point that made skating at the NHL level possible. However, I do wish him well and hopefully he gets back to playing.

- eichiefs9

You have to figure at his age his career is over. Absolutely sucks feel for the guy. I assume he’s insured for this sort of thing as far as his existing contract/career goes.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 9 @ 11:17 AM ET
This site sucks
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 9 @ 11:30 AM ET
You have to figure at his age his career is over. Absolutely sucks feel for the guy. I assume he’s insured for this sort of thing as far as his existing contract/career goes.
- Cptmjl

Good thing we didn't sign him
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 9 @ 11:34 AM ET
Say Lou gets fired. Who do you want to become President of Hockey Ops and GM?
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 9 @ 11:40 AM ET
As usual with this team, too many mights and maybes.

- PeteM



Other teams outcomes and performance are a sure thing? I don't think there's a sure thing when it comes to sports. Thats why they play the games. There is luck injuries etc. that all are unaccounted for which play a part in every teams season.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 9 @ 11:43 AM ET
Good thing we didn't sign him
- eichiefs9


Getting rejected helps sometimes.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 9 @ 11:46 AM ET
Good thing we didn't sign him
- eichiefs9

Lameriello may be looking into it.
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

May 9 @ 11:56 AM ET
Say Lou gets fired. Who do you want to become President of Hockey Ops and GM?
- nyisles7


The Council of Islanders HockeyBuzz Posters. It'd be a blast to see how terrible we'd do, and if we could stay above the Milbury Line of competence.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 9 @ 12:20 PM ET
The Council of Islanders HockeyBuzz Posters. It'd be a blast to see how terrible we'd do, and if we could stay above the Milbury Line of competence.
- UIF


Islander Hockeybuzz posters have never been right about anything.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 9 @ 12:30 PM ET
The Council of Islanders HockeyBuzz Posters. It'd be a blast to see how terrible we'd do, and if we could stay above the Milbury Line of competence.
- UIF


Probably would have gotten Bedard this year.

UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

May 9 @ 1:39 PM ET
Islander Hockeybuzz posters have never been right about anything.

- ses111


HockeyBuzz posters have the amazing ability to be simultaneously right about everything and wrong about everything
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

May 9 @ 1:40 PM ET
Probably would have gotten Bedard this year.
- nyisles7


We'd be beating Snow's rebuild by a whole season in our first year of work!
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 9 @ 1:42 PM ET
HockeyBuzz posters have the amazing ability to be simultaneously right about everything and wrong about everything
- UIF


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