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ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 5 @ 9:11 AM ET
Former Calgary Flames GM Brad Treliving is rumored as a leading candidate to replace Lamoriello with proven head coaches, including Peter Laviolette, who won a Stanley Cup with the Carolina Hurricanes in 2006 and led the Nashville Predators to the Stanley Cup Final in 2017.

Any thoughts if this were to happen?

- Nfdbulldawg


I'd rather go with someone like Dean Lombardi in terms of experience or a young and upcoming assistant GM. Been there done that with Peter.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 5 @ 9:11 AM ET
No, but we had the same captain.
- JohnScammo






Indeed John.
nyisles7
New York Islanders
Location: Magical Lou, NY
Joined: 01.20.2009

May 5 @ 9:33 AM ET
Very… “meh”.

Treliving is pretty decent on the trade and draft front. Not so hot when it comes to hiring coaches.

- Wildschwein



I wouldn’t mind Laviolette.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

May 5 @ 9:51 AM ET
I wouldn’t mind Laviolette.
- nyisles7


He’s fine.

But I’d still rather hire Andrew Brunette.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 5 @ 11:00 AM ET
Former Calgary Flames GM Brad Treliving is rumored as a leading candidate to replace Lamoriello with proven head coaches, including Peter Laviolette, who won a Stanley Cup with the Carolina Hurricanes in 2006 and led the Nashville Predators to the Stanley Cup Final in 2017.

Any thoughts if this were to happen?

- Nfdbulldawg



What article is this from? ** Edit never mind I found it
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 5 @ 11:27 AM ET
What article is this from? ** Edit never mind I found it
- Vukota

Eyes on Isles
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 5 @ 11:28 AM ET
What article is this from? ** Edit never mind I found it
- Vukota


Does not mean anything, but I've not read anything about Lou not coming back. Have to think Ledecky and Malkin expected more the last few years. Hopefully we hear something soon.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 5 @ 11:30 AM ET
Eyes on Isles
- eichiefs9


Yeah once I saw that I knew it was BS
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

May 5 @ 11:31 AM ET
Does not mean anything, but I've not read anything about Lou not coming back. Have to think Ledecky and Malkin expected more the last few years. Hopefully we hear something soon.
- ses111


I thought for a second it came from a respected publication.
Mancalledsting
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 5 @ 11:34 AM ET
Does not mean anything, but I've not read anything about Lou not coming back. Have to think Ledecky and Malkin expected more the last few years. Hopefully we hear something soon.
- ses111


They should be proactive. As Isles GM he brought the franchise back to respectability, but they've WON nothing. This team needs a retooling with younger and faster players. Lou isn't the guy to do that job.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 5 @ 11:38 AM ET
Yeah once I saw that I knew it was BS
- Vukota

I mean it's nothing more than a logical choice if Lou, for whatever reason, wasn't the GM next season. He's an experienced GM with a good track record. Dubas isn't going anywhere, so it's not even worth discussing that.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 5 @ 11:51 AM ET
I mean it's nothing more than a logical choice if Lou, for whatever reason, wasn't the GM next season. He's an experienced GM with a good track record. Dubas isn't going anywhere, so it's not even worth discussing that.
- eichiefs9


What do you think of Dean Lombardi as a possible choice chief?
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 5 @ 11:53 AM ET
They should be proactive. As Isles GM he brought the franchise back to respectability, but they've WON nothing. This team needs a retooling with younger and faster players. Lou isn't the guy to do that job.
- Mancalledsting


Lou being 80 is obviously not the future. I have to think L & M wanted more home playoff games the last two years. I would make the change now but I'm not an owner or GM and only play them on Hockeybuzz.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

May 5 @ 12:11 PM ET
What do you think of Dean Lombardi as a possible choice chief?
- ses111


I’m not Chiefs, but personally I thought his work with the Kings was pretty abysmal from 2015 onwards.

What’s more, he strikes me as a man who views the game much the same as Lou. So he’d likely be a lateral move at best.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 5 @ 12:28 PM ET
I’m not Chiefs, but personally I thought his work with the Kings was pretty abysmal from 2015 onwards.

What’s more, he strikes me as a man who views the game much the same as Lou. So he’d likely be a lateral move at best.

- Wildschwein


Thanks schwein! There is only one chief. Those LA and Sharks teams did have a lot of talent and success. I know LA’s cap situation was not the best but they did win two Cuos.
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

May 5 @ 12:46 PM ET
Thanks schwein! There is only one chief. Those LA and Sharks teams did have a lot of talent and success. I know LA’s cap situation was not the best but they did win two Cuos.
- ses111


That they did.

But the game has changed a great deal since then. In fact, one of the very few NHL teams who still play similarly to those King Cup winning teams, is this current iteration of the Islanders.

And then there was the whole 2016 USA Worlds roster fiasco.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 5 @ 12:48 PM ET
What do you think of Dean Lombardi as a possible choice chief?
- ses111

I haven't put much thought into anyone yet, since nobody knows what's going on happen. When they hired Lou, Tom Fitzgerald was the guy I was hoping for and he's done an excellent job in NJ.

Off the top of my head, and subject to changing my mind, I'd probably prefer someone like Fitzgerald. A modern-age, well-regarded Asst. GM (or similar) who's ready to take the leap and has something to prove. Someone that understands the "new" NHL and can operate in way that fits that game can help build a competitive team.

I wouldn't be entirely against an older GM, like Treliving, because there's obvious benefits to someone with a proven track record. But I have zero interest in Lombardi. There's been plenty of GM positions open since he was fired in 2017 and none have hired him.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 5 @ 12:49 PM ET
I’m not Chiefs, but personally I thought his work with the Kings was pretty abysmal from 2015 onwards.

What’s more, he strikes me as a man who views the game much the same as Lou. So he’d likely be a lateral move at best.

- Wildschwein

Yeah we're in lockstep on this one
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

May 5 @ 12:54 PM ET
Former Calgary Flames GM Brad Treliving is rumored as a leading candidate to replace Lamoriello with proven head coaches, including Peter Laviolette, who won a Stanley Cup with the Carolina Hurricanes in 2006 and led the Nashville Predators to the Stanley Cup Final in 2017.

Any thoughts if this were to happen?

- Nfdbulldawg

So…you’d want the GM that traded Tkachuk?? That’s pretty interesting.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 5 @ 1:07 PM ET
So…you’d want the GM that traded Tkachuk?? That’s pretty interesting.
- potvin05

Why? Tkachuk told them he wasn't going to re-sign there after this season. If they didn't trade him they would have lost him for nothing this summer.

He took a guy that openly said he wasn't going to come back to Calgary when he hit UFA and turned him into Huberdeau and Weegar. I'd say that's an excellent job.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 5 @ 1:10 PM ET
I haven't put much thought into anyone yet, since nobody knows what's going on happen. When they hired Lou, Tom Fitzgerald was the guy I was hoping for and he's done an excellent job in NJ.

Off the top of my head, and subject to changing my mind, I'd probably prefer someone like Fitzgerald. A modern-age, well-regarded Asst. GM (or similar) who's ready to take the leap and has something to prove. Someone that understands the "new" NHL and can operate in way that fits that game can help build a competitive team.

I wouldn't be entirely against an older GM, like Treliving, because there's obvious benefits to someone with a proven track record. But I have zero interest in Lombardi. There's been plenty of GM positions open since he was fired in 2017 and none have hired him.

- eichiefs9


Thanks chief! I agree a modern-age well-regarded Asst. GM would be the way to go. Treliving if a more experienced GM was needed would be fine.
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

May 5 @ 1:15 PM ET
Why? Tkachuk told them he wasn't going to re-sign there after this season. If they didn't trade him they would have lost him for nothing this summer.

He took a guy that openly said he wasn't going to come back to Calgary when he hit UFA and turned him into Huberdeau and Weegar. I'd say that's an excellent job.

- eichiefs9

Bulldog guy wanted Tkachuk bad enough that he’s willing to give up Dobson and others when he’s proposing we can Lou and pick up the very same GM that traded him. I just found that ironic. I wasn’t referring to the trade itself. If you value Tkachuk enough, isn’t part of your job as a GM to get that player happy and stay?
Wildschwein
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.17.2012

May 5 @ 1:25 PM ET
Bulldog guy wanted Tkachuk bad enough that he’s willing to give up Dobson and others when he’s proposing we can Lou and pick up the very same GM that traded him. I just found that ironic. I wasn’t referring to the trade itself. If you value Tkachuk enough, isn’t part of your job as a GM to get that player happy and stay?
- potvin05


Not when the only thing that’ll make him happy is playing for an American franchise.

Treliving did the only thing that he could. And considering how his hands were tied, I thought he did pretty damned well.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 5 @ 1:25 PM ET
Bulldog guy wanted Tkachuk bad enough that he’s willing to give up Dobson and others when he’s proposing we can Lou and pick up the very same GM that traded him. I just found that ironic. I wasn’t referring to the trade itself. If you value Tkachuk enough, isn’t part of your job as a GM to get that player happy and stay?
- potvin05

I mean if someone tells you "I'm not going to re-sign here next summer", and he holds 100% of the leverage, what can you really do?

He played there for 6 years. No sales pitch from a GM is going to get him to just magically reverse course and decide to stay. That's how you end up losing a top-tier UFA for nothing. Something we're all very familiar with.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 5 @ 1:32 PM ET
Not when the only thing that’ll make him happy is playing for an American franchise.

Treliving did the only thing that he could. And considering how his hands were tied, I thought he did pretty damned well.

- Wildschwein


Same for not blaming Lou for JT walking. Lou just started with the Islanders and if a player has his heart on leaving, nothing the GM can do. The mistake was L & M not telling Garth to move JT at the deadline.
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