Calgary acquired a guy off a 115 point seaosn. A dman off a 44 point season. A 1st rd pick. Calgary in win now mode.

so what could the flyers offer? what players would fit Sutters style better?
- hello it's me 2050

Considering Tkachuk basically held them ransom, I thought they did pretty good in the trade. Both guys that went over struggled under Sutter, but that is no longer an issue…Tkachuk has been lights out for the Cats, but I wouldn’t discount the pedigree that went the other way just yet.
As far as Tkachuk coming here? Why would he have wanted to do that? He was an RFA, was he not ?

It doesn't seem as though you've done a very good job of paying attention or comprehending. Nobody has ever said that Clarkie is calling the shots. Maybe you can go back and review.
- MJL

Thanks for your help! So to clarify, Clarkie only influences decisions about coaches, GMs, and players? I mean, Chuckles, Torts, and ND all had to be bc of Clarkie and the boys. I thought maybe he could use his pull to get more former Flyers in the org. I'll go back over all of your informative posts to see if I can figure this out. Is there a way on here I can just search -MJL posts? It would make things much easier.

Just trade Kevin Hayes to Boston, problem solved.
- Tomahawk

bookmarking this comment .. so when it happens this off season

Link?
- corduroy

https://broadstreetbuzz.c...move-contract-ryan-ellis/


https://www.yardbarker.co...ontract/s1_16481_38775309

Considering Tkachuk basically held them ransom, I thought they did pretty good in the trade. Both guys that went over struggled under Sutter, but that is no longer an issue…Tkachuk has been lights out for the Cats, but I wouldn’t discount the pedigree that went the other way just yet.
As far as Tkachuk coming here? Why would he have wanted to do that? He was an RFA, was he not ?
- landros 2

Does any hockey player worth his salt really want to play in Florida? Come on! The Flyers are still a marque franschise and a major market in the NHL. Given the style Tkachuk plays, he would own this town. Torts would absolutely salavate over him.

Considering Tkachuk basically held them ransom, I thought they did pretty good in the trade. Both guys that went over struggled under Sutter, but that is no longer an issue…Tkachuk has been lights out for the Cats, but I wouldn’t discount the pedigree that went the other way just yet.
As far as Tkachuk coming here? Why would he have wanted to do that? He was an RFA, was he not ?
- landros 2

ah, would love it if he was here. but we are not that lucky.

Does any hockey player worth his salt really want to play in Florida? Come on! The Flyers are still a marque franschise and a major market in the NHL. Given the style Tkachuk plays, he would own this town. Torts would absolutely salavate over him.
- jd250

with some of the moves they made recently and some of the players they brought in i could easily see it. not like it was 15 years ago. now if he only wanted to go to arizona i would agree. also look at the taxes. but they have a good mix of players now on the roster

https://broadstreetbuzz.com/2023/04/28/flyers-reportedly-looking-move-contract-ryan-ellis/


https://www.yardbarker.co...ontract/s1_16481_38775309
- Peter Richards

I think there are better ways to clear cap space for the Flyers currently. Trading Hayes and Provey will get them about $10M plus JVR's $7M is off the books already. Once this happens, then I can see the Flyers trading the Ellis contract for a high cap player that has 1 year left, someone like Myers from Vancouver at $6M for 1 year.

Its true the Flyers didn't have anyone on their team or in their system that could have competed with the point totals of Huber, however I think the Flyers could have offered something like TK, Laughts and either Provey/Sanheim, plus a prospect and a 1st round pick. It may have not been enough but this could have been a starting point. TK and Laughts combined score more goals than Huber plus are grittier and play more in the style Sutter wanted to play. Provey is better than Weeger defensively.
- jd250

TK, Laughts and Provy are $15M in cap commitments for 22-23.

Hube and Weegar were only $9M.

The math doesn't work.

bookmarking this comment
- jd250

I'm flattered

Its true the Flyers didn't have anyone on their team or in their system that could have competed with the point totals of Huber, however I think the Flyers could have offered something like TK, Laughts and either Provey/Sanheim, plus a prospect and a 1st round pick. It may have not been enough but this could have been a starting point. TK and Laughts combined score more goals than Huber plus are grittier and play more in the style Sutter wanted to play. Provey is better than Weeger defensively.
- jd250

This doesn't matter. And frankly, Calgary would have laughed at that package.

They got a 115 point player and a top pair defenseman plus a first round pick plus a prospect.. End of story. The Flyers had nothing to compare at the time. You can't look at the deal after the fact, rewind time, and use what happened after as a reason that they would accept the trade.

Then resigned them to 17 million in contracts 10.5aav for Huberdeau and 6.25aav for Weegar.

At no point before or after were the Flyers in a position to do this.

and what i said is factual and hockey related.

please provide the evidence of the bolded
- Peter Richards

https://www.hockeybuzz.co...p?thread_id=183574&page=5

"funny how some claim to be"


Your post is neither factual nor hockey related. You need to man up.

Ok .. and how did this package work out for Calgary this year? Oh that's right .. they missed the playoffs and Sutter was fired. I think the Flyers could have at least competed for Tkachuk and what bothers me is from what I know they didn't even try.
- jd250

You're injecting information that was not known at the time of the trade. So how can that be a factor or relevant? You don't have any idea if they inquired about Tkachuk or not.

Its true the Flyers didn't have anyone on their team or in their system that could have competed with the point totals of Huber, however I think the Flyers could have offered something like TK, Laughts and either Provey/Sanheim, plus a prospect and a 1st round pick. It may have not been enough but this could have been a starting point. TK and Laughts combined score more goals than Huber plus are grittier and play more in the style Sutter wanted to play. Provey is better than Weeger defensively.
- jd250

We're not discussing a starting point. We're discussing a finishing point. A deal that would make Calgary say yes. Now it's it may not have been enough. Provorov is not better than Weegar in any aspect of the game.

Thanks for your help! So to clarify, Clarkie only influences decisions about coaches, GMs, and players? I mean, Chuckles, Torts, and ND all had to be bc of Clarkie and the boys. I thought maybe he could use his pull to get more former Flyers in the org. I'll go back over all of your informative posts to see if I can figure this out. Is there a way on here I can just search -MJL posts? It would make things much easier.
- Don Nachbaur

I think I failed.

Thanks for your help! So to clarify, Clarkie only influences decisions about coaches, GMs, and players? I mean, Chuckles, Torts, and ND all had to be bc of Clarkie and the boys. I thought maybe he could use his pull to get more former Flyers in the org. I'll go back over all of your informative posts to see if I can figure this out. Is there a way on here I can just search -MJL posts? It would make things much easier.
- Don Nachbaur

I think I failed.

Does any hockey player worth his salt really want to play in Florida? Come on! The Flyers are still a marque franschise and a major market in the NHL. Given the style Tkachuk plays, he would own this town. Torts would absolutely salavate over him.
- jd250

Any indication or reports that Tkachuk is unhappy and doesn't want to play in Florida? Must be awful to be able to enjoy the warm weather and the beaches. The night life and restaurants. Maybe Tkachuk is not worth his salts.

https://broadstreetbuzz.com/2023/04/28/flyers-reportedly-looking-move-contract-ryan-ellis/


https://www.yardbarker.co...ontract/s1_16481_38775309
- Peter Richards

Thank you!!

One question. How has Bergeron done for the Bruins the last 8 years. Oh, in case you missed it, here is it for your convenience.

2015-16 30 BOS NHL 80 32 36 68 12 AS-9,Byng-23,Selke-2
2016-17 31 BOS NHL 79 21 32 53 12 AS-8,Byng-34,Selke-1
2017-18 32 BOS NHL 64 30 33 63 21 Byng-48,Hart-17,Selke-3
2018-19 33 BOS NHL 65 32 47 79 23 AS-5,Byng-29,Hart-15,Selke-3
2019-20 34 BOS NHL 61 31 25 56 23 Byng-20,Selke-2
2020-21 35 BOS NHL 54 23 25 48 27 Byng-27,Messier-1,Selke-2
2021-22 36 BOS NHL 73 25 40 65 26 AS-7,Byng-30,Selke-1
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2022-23 37 BOS NHL 78 27 31 58 35

And remember Bergeron came back from a multiple serious consussions. But to some Couts has no shot??
- jd250

No coots has no shot to compare to that you know why?

BECAUSE BERGY IS A HALL OF FAME PLAYER. One of the best EVER at what he does. I’m so sick and tired of hearing and reading coots slightly above average ass even in same sentence as Bergy.

Please stop looking at the outlier and look at all the others. That’s where coots (in this case) will land.

How many times do we need to see this movie

You still have no clue after all this time, what my position on Couturier is. No matter how many times I can tell you, you still won't get it.

You also still don't get that my position on Patrick and his migraines was that there was NO information about migraines with Patrick before the draft. No matter how many times that has been told to you. Your desperation is hysterical.
Your four bullet points are poorly thought out and you still don't understand that there are no general rules and each situation is it's own individual case.

Good luck to you on your personal mission. I welcome the opportunity. You're an embarrassment. Your post here proves that you are completely incapable of accurately describing a position someone has offered in the past. You've failed in the past and you will fail again. The only thing you can do is call someone obtuse or a twit. That is the extent of your capability.

The most hysterical and ironic part about it is that you will have no clue that it won't be me that is exposed. It's that you will continue to expose yourself. So, by all means. Bring it on.


- MJL

Yep sure k.
Fraud.

Is this a joke! Not even in the discussion? Really? What league are you watching? Who is in the discussion in your opinion since apparently there is no room for Tkachuk?
- jd250

See you look at stats and stats alone. Wonderful he had 42 goals. Big (frank)ing deal. Thompson had 47!!!

What did others have? What did pasta have? 60(frank)inghowmany?

Who do you want taking shot to win game in playoffs? Or results season?

Mcdavid
Leo

The next list starts with people like pasta Kaprizov Matthews mackinnon etc


Not Tkachuk. Not even in that class.

And that’s just to name a few.

Again I’m a huge Tkachuk fan. But like I said when you’re wrong you’re horribly wrong

It's you that is actually wrong. Tkachuk is no question in that conversation. He had a 40 goal 109 point regular season and is currently leading the playoffs in scoring.
- MJL

Yep trolling fraud. Surely you’re right

https://www.hockeybuzz.com/boards/183574/thread.php?thread_id=183574&page=5

"funny how some claim to be"


Your post is neither factual nor hockey related. You need to man up.
- MJL

some do claim to be. it is related to hockey. not a personal attack you claim or unwarranted as it was part of a discussion and in reference to the hockey conversation. the bolded is actually an example of trying to make it personal. not sure what you are referring too, you are the one making accusations, again. no actual evidence provided.

Its true the Flyers didn't have anyone on their team or in their system that could have competed with the point totals of Huber, however I think the Flyers could have offered something like TK, Laughts and either Provey/Sanheim, plus a prospect and a 1st round pick. It may have not been enough but this could have been a starting point. TK and Laughts combined score more goals than Huber plus are grittier and play more in the style Sutter wanted to play. Provey is better than Weeger defensively.
- jd250

Here’s what you don’t get.
1) they wouldn’t have taken that package over a hubby led package. Hubby is beyond better than anything in that package

2) most importantly ANY deal came with stipulation of Tkachuk signing long term deal. And he wasn’t gonna sign here.

Does any hockey player worth his salt really want to play in Florida? Come on! The Flyers are still a marque franschise and a major market in the NHL. Given the style Tkachuk plays, he would own this town. Torts would absolutely salavate over him.
- jd250

You’re nuts.
No state tax
Great weather
wussy everywhere

Compared to high tax
poop weather
poop team
poop city

Why would any player nowadays choose philly over Florida?