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LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 15 @ 9:52 AM ET
I had a rant about Nurse all typed out but didn’t post it out of fear I would jinx that game. He’s so bad at times I can’t believe he makes (or is going to make) the money he does. $9.25m for what he brings? Yikes.
- bloatedmosquito

Whoever gave him that contract needs their head examined.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 15 @ 10:07 AM ET
Only a matter of time their 5/5 play sucked both series and Skinner too up/down.

Still have a CAR-DAL final in my pool very possible.


- LordHumungous

Not very smart betting on something you are convinced is rigged.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 15 @ 10:07 AM ET
Imagine, Carolina, Florida, Las Vegas and one of Seattle or Dallas in the final four. There’s a few shit hockey markets there.

A lot of similarities in those teams, basically one star player, a whole lot of depth and the ability to play well defensively, well, for Vegas, Carolina & Florida at least. Dallas and Seattle have a bit of a high scoring series going.

- LeftCoaster

Dallas has Hintz-Pavelski-Robertson That's 3 stars. Plus Heiskanen.

I'd say the similarities among these teams is they show up to play as a unit and throughout the line up.

Forechecking wingers are going to get overpaid this summer as well thanks to those teams.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 15 @ 10:08 AM ET
Imagine, Carolina, Florida, Las Vegas and one of Seattle or Dallas in the final four. There’s a few shit hockey markets there.

A lot of similarities in those teams, basically one star player, a whole lot of depth and the ability to play well defensively, well, for Vegas, Carolina & Florida at least. Dallas and Seattle have a bit of a high scoring series going.

- LeftCoaster

lol Bettman at his 9am office meeting today doing the conference call to get all the non-Hockey markets into the final 4...



Bring me everyone.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 15 @ 10:10 AM ET
Whoever gave him that contract needs their head examined.
- LeftCoaster


Ken Holland. I think that contract was a result of the oilers not being able to retain or attract players to their team. There are a few small market teams that feel they are the farm team of the league. Oilers are one of them. Kind of like the Oakland Athletics in Moneyball.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 15 @ 10:11 AM ET
Not very smart betting on something you are convinced is rigged.
- Marwood

Out of the final 5 teams who does anyone most want to see win the Stanley cup?

3 of the teams have ex Canucks defenders playing for them.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 15 @ 10:13 AM ET
Out of the final 5 teams who does anyone most want to see win the Stanley cup?

3 of the teams have ex Canucks defenders playing for them.

- manvanfan


Vegas. Because that would prove how much of a gong show this league is.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 15 @ 10:16 AM ET
Dallas has Hintz-Pavelski-Robertson That's 3 stars. Plus Heiskanen.

I'd say the similarities among these teams is they show up to play as a unit and throughout the line up.

Forechecking wingers are going to get overpaid this summer as well thanks to those teams.

- manvanfan

Although I think Pavelski and Hintz are good players, they aren’t “stars”, they’re good 70 point players. If that’s a star then Miller and Kuzmenko are also stars. You’re right about Heiskanen though. I was thinking more of the forward groups.

Chandler Stephenson, playing really well for Vegas, you think Yager or Danielson can be that for the Canucks? I watched both the videos on them the Detroit blogger put out. I like Yager’s game.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 15 @ 10:17 AM ET
Vegas. Because that would prove how much of a gong show this league is.
- bloatedmosquito

I don't know what you mean by that? Put together a pretty good team and have made an insane amount of trades and have been close for years.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 15 @ 10:19 AM ET
Vegas. Because that would prove how much of a gong show this league is.
- bloatedmosquito

How? They wanted them to be competitive not wallow at the bottom of the league for ten years. They chose wisely! They deserve credit for that. Same with Seattle, no real super-star quality player but good depth.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

May 15 @ 10:20 AM ET
I had a rant about Nurse all typed out but didn’t post it out of fear I would jinx that game. He’s so bad at times I can’t believe he makes (or is going to make) the money he does. $9.25m for what he brings? Yikes.
- bloatedmosquito

Almost as bad as that Huberdeau contract.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 15 @ 10:22 AM ET
I don't know what you mean by that? Put together a pretty good team and have made an insane amount of trades and have been close for years.
- manvanfan


They have made the conference final three out of their first five years in the league. The expansion system put in place by the NHL gave them a unfair advantage. A pro league like the NHL should be able to come up with a balanced expansion system. It’s a joke.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 15 @ 10:23 AM ET
I don't know what you mean by that? Put together a pretty good team and have made an insane amount of trades and have been close for years.
- manvanfan

Agree, Vegas has been building and turning over their roster since their inception. Very proactive management over their six years.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

May 15 @ 10:23 AM ET
Out of the final 5 teams who does anyone most want to see win the Stanley cup?

3 of the teams have ex Canucks defenders playing for them.

- manvanfan

Tkachuk and Sammy
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 15 @ 10:25 AM ET
They have made the conference final three out of their first five years in the league. The expansion system put in place by the NHL gave them a unfair advantage. A pro league like the NHL should be able to come up with a balanced expansion system. It’s a joke.
- bloatedmosquito

I think a bit of luck was involved, more about a perfect storm for them in season one than an unfair advantage.
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

May 15 @ 10:25 AM ET
How? They wanted them to be competitive not wallow at the bottom of the league for ten years. They chose wisely! They deserve credit for that. Same with Seattle, no real super-star quality player but good depth.
- LeftCoaster


There’s being competitive and then there is being handed insta-success.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 15 @ 10:31 AM ET
Although I think Pavelski and Hintz are good players, they aren’t “stars”, they’re good 70 point players. If that’s a star then Miller and Kuzmenko are also stars. You’re right about Heiskanen though. I was thinking more of the forward groups.

Chandler Stephenson, playing really well for Vegas, you think Yager or Danielson can be that for the Canucks? I watched both the videos on them the Detroit blogger put out. I like Yager’s game.

- LeftCoaster

I would consider them "star" players. Maybe not elite players but definitely star players.

Stephenson is the type of player Canucks need to find somewhere. Same as Ryan Hartman in Minnesota or when Karlsson joined Vegas.

I think Yager is a possibility at 11. Danielson, I have further down more in the 15th range because I see less upside with him. I wouldn't call him Horvat but the same sort of very north-south with speed, not a very good playmaker. Better defensively and more physical than Bo is though.

Unless someone drops into that 11 spot, I don't think good value is going to be there, unless someone does reach their ceiling.

Definitely Yager>Danielson though, more facets to his game on both ends and considering they had the same points totals and everybody saying Yager was a bit disappointing this season. I'd say the upside is going to be quite a bit higher for Yager.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 15 @ 10:31 AM ET
There’s being competitive and then there is being handed insta-success.
- bloatedmosquito

I think you’re not giving them enough credit for selecting a good roster that performed way above expectations with having a bunch of castoffs. Season one their top five scorers were Karlsson, Marchessault, Perron, Reilly Smith and Erik Haula. Plus Fleury played lights-out. Not exactly star-studded.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 15 @ 10:33 AM ET
They have made the conference final three out of their first five years in the league. The expansion system put in place by the NHL gave them a unfair advantage. A pro league like the NHL should be able to come up with a balanced expansion system. It’s a joke.
- bloatedmosquito

It was tweaked a little for Seattle and teams had a 2nd chance to make smarter decisions and the results are almost near the same. Seattle 1 game away from conference final in year 2.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 15 @ 10:33 AM ET
Not very smart betting on something you are convinced is rigged.
- Marwood

Made $523 at Gulfstream yesterday...sometimes the numbers fall your way.



LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 15 @ 10:34 AM ET
I would consider them "star" players. Maybe not elite players but definitely star players.

Stephenson is the type of player Canucks need to find somewhere. Same as Ryan Hartman in Minnesota or when Karlsson joined Vegas.

I think Yager is a possibility at 11. Danielson, I have further down more in the 15th range because I see less upside with him. I wouldn't call him Horvat but the same sort of very north-south with speed, not a very good playmaker. Better defensively and more physical than Bo is though.

Unless someone drops into that 11 spot, I don't think good value is going to be there, unless someone does reach their ceiling.

Definitely Yager>Danielson though, more facets to his game on both ends and considering they had the same points totals and everybody saying Yager was a bit disappointing this season. I'd say the upside is going to be quite a bit higher for Yager.

- manvanfan

I saw good puck distribution skills and a great shot from Yager. Kid sees the ice well and he’s not slow, not fast, but not slow.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 15 @ 10:35 AM ET
I think you’re not giving them enough credit for selecting a good roster that performed way above expectations with having a bunch of castoffs. Season one their top five scorers were Karlsson, Marchessault, Perron, Reilly Smith and Erik Haula. Plus Fleury played lights-out. Not exactly star-studded.
- LeftCoaster

Crazy how if you don't have a bunch of insanely overpaid contracts and slow as (frank) soft wingers you can create a pretty good team
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 15 @ 10:44 AM ET
I saw good puck distribution skills and a great shot from Yager. Kid sees the ice well and he’s not slow, not fast, but not slow.
- LeftCoaster

I watched a couple games vs the Winnipeg Ice and he was fun to watch. Had a strong playoffs 16 points in 10 games. Your scouts blog said that his skating is near NHL ready. Good sign because he is only 165 lbs and that's a lot of room for growth in strength.

Your scouts blog seems to be real consensus that Reinbacher, ASP, Barlow, Moore, Danielson, Yager, Simashev, Wood are all just outside of the top 10 but no one really stands out and there's really no consensus on who should be pick other than who that teams scouts feel has the most upside still. There is 8 players there, I think that trading down to 15th or something would be a very good idea as to get better value
Load Management
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Vancouver Canucks
Location: Billings Spit, BC
Joined: 09.22.2019

May 15 @ 10:59 AM ET
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- Reubenkincade


LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 15 @ 11:05 AM ET

- Load Management

Other than a few isolated incidents, I think he’ll be hiding out all summer to avoid being made fun of.

And fishing, of course. 🎣
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