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A_SteamingLombardi
Location: Systemic failure / Slurptastic
Joined: 10.12.2008

May 16 @ 3:22 PM ET
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 16 @ 3:22 PM ET
That OEL trade and contract is just haunting the Canucks, the Garland and Boeser contracts as well, but to a lesser extent. You’ve got four guys in Boeser, Garland, Mikheyev & Beauvillier all making between 4-5 million for 40 something points. Two of them need to go.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 16 @ 3:24 PM ET
Top three on this Canucks list are worth their salary, the bottom three not so much.
- VANTEL

I was gonna say the same thing. Although, in Dallas, at 50 points is Seguin worth 9.85 million? Like I said, if he played in Vancouver the fans would be going ape shit!!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 16 @ 3:37 PM ET
I was gonna say the same thing. Although, at 50 points is Seguin worth 9.85 million? Like I said, if he played in Vancouver the fans would be going ape shit!!
- LeftCoaster


Boeser had a year of 18 goals 55 Pts. That is not horrible. I am not a big fan of his, but if his goal production was closer to the 25 mark fans would be less critical. Jamie Benn the previous year had 18 goals 46 points.

I get more miffed at seeing a lineup with regulars like Dries Pizzaman and Studnicka.

It will be good to see when Myers is finally off the team. I think Canucks do have some good pieces in place and need to make some big boy moves this summer. They need to move some pieces even if it costs them money and bring in some proper players.

I see Acciari and ROR are free agents, we all know Gavrikov is out there.

I still think Beauvillier is the one to move. I think he is going to have an underwhelming year now that the honeymoon is over, but it will be Garland moved.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 16 @ 3:48 PM ET
Good to see Seattle out they shouldn't even have a team there. Now Vegas to get punted next and Florida for the CAR-DAL finals. $400 bucks baby!!


- LordHumungous

They are one of the premier franchises in the league, a model for the others to follow. You're such a moron!! Just because there's cities that perhaps shouldn't have a franchise, like Anaheim, doesn't mean Seattle shouldn't have one. Kraken have a strong, strong franchise, one of eight teams with 100% capacity this year.


Vegas Golden Knights T-Mobile Arena 17,500 - 18,024 103.0
Minnesota Wild Xcel Energy Center 17,954 - 18,454 102.8
Boston Bruins Fenway Park,TD Garden 18,066 - 18,372 101.7
Nashville Predators Bridgestone Arena 17,113 - 17,361 101.5
Colorado Avalanche Ball Arena,Nokia Arena 17,896 - 17,991 100.5
Washington Capitals Capital One Arena 18,506 - 18,573 100.4
Seattle Kraken Climate Pledge Arena 17,100 - 17,151 100.3
Arizona Coyotes Mullett Arena 4,600 - 4,600 100.0
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 16 @ 3:54 PM ET
Boeser had a year of 18 goals 55 Pts. That is not horrible. I am not a big fan of his, but if his goal production was closer to the 25 mark fans would be less critical. Jamie Benn the previous year had 18 goals 46 points.

I get more miffed at seeing a lineup with regulars like Dries Pizzaman and Studnicka.

It will be good to see when Myers is finally off the team. I think Canucks do have some good pieces in place and need to make some big boy moves this summer. They need to move some pieces even if it costs them money and bring in some proper players.

I see Acciari and ROR are free agents, we all know Gavrikov is out there.

I still think Beauvillier is the one to move. I think he is going to have an underwhelming year now that the honeymoon is over, but it will be Garland moved.

- VANTEL

To worry about those types of players when they make very little money is poorly spent time. It's the big ticket items that are a cause for concern. So much money wasted on middling players like OEL, Boeser, Garland, Beauvillier and Myers. That's roughly 28 million dollars worth of very poor returns.
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 16 @ 4:01 PM ET
Seadog schooled you!!
- Marwood

Another winner champion alt account.

LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 16 @ 4:10 PM ET
They are one of the premier franchises in the league, a model for the others to follow. You're such a Marwood tool! Just because there's cities that perhaps shouldn't have a franchise, like Anaheim, doesn't mean Seattle shouldn't have one. Kraken have a strong, strong franchise, one of eight teams with 100% capacity this year.


Vegas Golden Knights T-Mobile Arena 17,500 - 18,024 103.0
Minnesota Wild Xcel Energy Center 17,954 - 18,454 102.8
Boston Bruins Fenway Park,TD Garden 18,066 - 18,372 101.7
Nashville Predators Bridgestone Arena 17,113 - 17,361 101.5
Colorado Avalanche Ball Arena,Nokia Arena 17,896 - 17,991 100.5
Washington Capitals Capital One Arena 18,506 - 18,573 100.4
Seattle Kraken Climate Pledge Arena 17,100 - 17,151 100.3
Arizona Coyotes Mullett Arena 4,600 - 4,600 100.0

- LeftCoaster


Yeah...you can 'imagineer' your way to a cup final in Arizona in front of 5000 fans if you were running the league with your flip flops clown!! Mullett boy is appropriate.




The whole point is to move teams to Hockey markets that will succeed long term. Not have FLA ARZ CAR and a host of others cost the league and suck things dry losing 20-40 million per season as they can't put 6000 asses in the seats in regular season. Wanna team in Seattle? Sure...then MOVE Arizona there. Not over expand to the point where the whole integrity of the game is damaged. Which is where things are currently heading. Want 36 teams and 20 in the PO's? I don't. The league should be getting rid of 5-6 teams or moving them before they even considered putting clubs in Vegas and Seattle. This is the damaged NHL moving forward that you are defending. lol
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 16 @ 4:12 PM ET
Colorado driver tried to avoid DUI by switching seats with dog, police say.
- VANTEL

DogUnderInfluence okie dokie 😂
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 16 @ 4:13 PM ET
Yeah...you can 'imagineer' your way to a cup final in Arizona in front of 5000 fans if you were running the league with your flip flops clown!! Mullett boy is appropriate.




The whole point is to move teams to Hockey markets that will succeed long term. Not have FLA ARZ CAR and a host of others cost the league and suck things dry losing 20-40 million per season as they can't put 6000 asses in the seats in regular season. Wanna team in Seattle? Sure...then MOVE Arizona there. Not over expand to the point where the whole integrity of the game is damaged. Which is where things are currently heading. Want 36 teams and 20 in the PO's? I don't. The league should be getting rid of 5-6 teams or moving them before they even considered putting clubs in Vegas and Seattle. This is the damaged NHL moving forward that you are defending. lol

- LordHumungous

But that’s not what you said. You stated, and I quote, “they shouldn’t even have a team there”. Which is completely different than what you just said.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 16 @ 4:13 PM ET
Tyler Seguin was the highest paid NHL player this year at 13 million dollars, cap hit 9.85. He had 50 points! Can you imagine if he played in Vancouver.

Dallas Stars

Seguin - 9.85 million
Benn - 9.5 million
Heiskanen - 8.45 million
Robertson - 7.75 million
Pavelski - 5.5 million

Hintz - 8.45 million in 2023/24

Canucks

Miller - 8.0 million
Hughes - 7.85 million
Pettersson - 7.35 million
OEL - 7.26 million
Boeser - 6.65 million
Myers - 6.0 million

- LeftCoaster

Heiskanen really makes the Stars tick. Just the type of D we need.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 16 @ 4:16 PM ET
That OEL trade and contract is just haunting the Canucks, the Garland and Boeser contracts as well, but to a lesser extent. You’ve got four guys in Boeser, Garland, Mikheyev & Beauvillier all making between 4-5 million for 40 something points. Two of them need to go.
- LeftCoaster

Garland seems to be the most obvious. I’m fine with Miky & Beau given their forecheck & speed. Also if we resign Beau on a lesser deal.
Boeser can or will bounce back imo & could up his value by the TDL.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 16 @ 4:18 PM ET
Yeah...you can 'imagineer' your way to a cup final in Arizona in front of 5000 fans if you were running the league with your flip flops clown!! Mullett boy is appropriate.




The whole point is to move teams to Hockey markets that will succeed long term. Not have FLA ARZ CAR and a host of others cost the league and suck things dry losing 20-40 million per season as they can't put 6000 asses in the seats in regular season. Wanna team in Seattle? Sure...then MOVE Arizona there. Not over expand to the point where the whole integrity of the game is damaged. Which is where things are currently heading. Want 36 teams and 20 in the PO's? I don't. The league should be getting rid of 5-6 teams or moving them before they even considered putting clubs in Vegas and Seattle. This is the damaged NHL moving forward that you are defending. lol

- LordHumungous

And for the record, the lowest attendance average was San Jose at 13,912 people. Other than AZ of course. Florida averaged 16,682 people which is more than NJ, Anaheim, Winnipeg and Buffalo.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 16 @ 4:27 PM ET
To worry about those types of players when they make very little money is poorly spent time. It's the big ticket items that are a cause for concern. So much money wasted on middling players like OEL, Boeser, Garland, Beauvillier and Myers. That's roughly 28 million dollars worth of very poor returns.
- LeftCoaster


I get what you are saying but I also think of"you are only as strong as your weakest link".

Get rid of those bad contracts and you can bring in a better bottom six. You did say the other day a lot of teams are going to be looking closely at the bottom six of the remaining teams.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 16 @ 4:28 PM ET
To worry about those types of players when they make very little money is poorly spent time. It's the big ticket items that are a cause for concern. So much money wasted on middling players like OEL, Boeser, Garland, Beauvillier and Myers. That's roughly 28 million dollars worth of very poor returns.
- LeftCoaster

That 28m spent is about their lack of value given none are well rounded enough to deserve those contracts. Of all of those maybe only Beauvillier comes close. Garland overpaid by about 1m. The others say no more. Overall that group isn’t nearly physical enough nor play drivers in any way that matters.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 16 @ 4:31 PM ET
And for the record, the lowest attendance average was San Jose at 13,912 people. Other than AZ of course. Florida averaged 16,682 people which is more than NJ, Anaheim, Winnipeg and Buffalo.
- LeftCoaster

What is omitted is the NHL is a gate driven league & those team tic prices do not get close too many other top revenue teams.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 16 @ 4:32 PM ET
That 28m spent is about their lack of value given none are well rounded enough to deserve those contracts. Of all of those maybe only Beauvillier comes close. Garland overpaid by about 1m. The others say no more. Overall that group isn’t nearly physical enough nor play drivers in any way that matters.
- Nighthawk


That is what I thought also. Garland is paid 1 mil too much, Boeser 1.5, Myers 2 mil Beau 1.5 OEL 4 mil
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

May 16 @ 4:39 PM ET
I get what you are saying but I also think of"you are only as strong as your weakest link".

Get rid of those bad contracts and you can bring in a better bottom six. You did say the other day a lot of teams are going to be looking closely at the bottom six of the remaining teams.

- VANTEL


Yes and no. How many of the Canucks' poopty bottom 6 have we seen go do reasonably well for other teams' bottom 6? And vice versa. Upgrades to be made, but I think bringing in Euro players is a good route they've taken... cheaper than overpaying for Beagles that's for sure
NewYorkNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: New York, NY
Joined: 07.11.2015

May 16 @ 4:40 PM ET
That is what I thought also. Garland is paid 1 mil too much, Boeser 1.5, Myers 2 mil Beau 1.5 OEL 4 mil
- VANTEL


That's generous with those D
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 16 @ 4:40 PM ET
But that’s not what you said. You stated, and I quote, “they shouldn’t even have a team there”. Which is completely different than what you just said.
- LeftCoaster

Welcome to the soy latte libtard collective of all gender indentities.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

May 16 @ 4:41 PM ET
That is what I thought also. Garland is paid 1 mil too much, Boeser 1.5, Myers 2 mil Beau 1.5 OEL 4 mil
- VANTEL

Pretty much agree other than Beau. Need more time now that he is outta NYI where many don’t score. His skill set is solid & works hard. Next contract should be 3.25m or so.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 16 @ 4:47 PM ET
I get what you are saying but I also think of"you are only as strong as your weakest link".

Get rid of those bad contracts and you can bring in a better bottom six. You did say the other day a lot of teams are going to be looking closely at the bottom six of the remaining teams.

- VANTEL

It all works together, I agree, but Studnicka and those guys make 750K a year. The bottom four needs to be better but they’ve gotta fix the middle six and their salaries.

There’s a lot to unpack there.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 16 @ 4:48 PM ET
That is what I thought also. Garland is paid 1 mil too much, Boeser 1.5, Myers 2 mil Beau 1.5 OEL 4 mil
- VANTEL

Not only are they paid too much, you don’t win with those types of players.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 16 @ 5:31 PM ET
That's generous with those D
- NewYorkNuck



I agree. I was trying to be reasonable.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 16 @ 5:37 PM ET
Yes and no. How many of the Canucks' poopty bottom 6 have we seen go do reasonably well for other teams' bottom 6? And vice versa. Upgrades to be made, but I think bringing in Euro players is a good route they've taken... cheaper than overpaying for Beagles that's for sure
- NewYorkNuck


I like Dakota so far and am half sold on Amans.

I know Green asked for Roussel Beagle and the guy from Boston and truthfully I though it was a good day. I was a big Roussel fan when he played for Dallas, a lot less of a fan when he was a Canuck. I hated the Eriksson signing. I thought he was brought in clearly to spark the Sedins who were on the back nine.

I think you need to keep trying things until they work. Garland to me is a good bottom 9 but his salary won't ever match.
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