Marwood
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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Reinbacher will fall in draft as Sandin gave him that knee injury at the world championships. Canucks will probably take him and he’ll bust. And guys here will be saying that his development is looking great, 7 years Down the road |
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NewYorkNuck
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 07.11.2015
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NewYorkNuck
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 07.11.2015
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Reinbacher will fall in draft as Sandin gave him that knee injury at the world championships. Canucks will probably take him and he’ll bust. And guys here will be saying that his development is looking great, 7 years Down the road - I-own_da-Northwest
Good insight from Pronman:
Big, mobile defenders outplayed the small puck-movers
The 2018 draft saw a lot of big bets by teams on smaller defensemen who could provide offense. Hughes, Boqvist, Ty Smith, Ryan Merkley, Jacob Bernard-Docker, Nicolas Beaudin, Nils Lundkvist and Rasmus Sandin were the defensemen 6 feet or shorter who went in the first round.
Noah Dobson, K’Andre Miller and Alexander Alexeyev were the defensemen 6-foot-3 or taller who went in Round 1, with Mattias Samuelsson being the 33rd pick.
The second group looks superior to the first group, both on a total-value standpoint and especially on a per-capita basis. Dobson, Miller and Samuelsson developed into core parts of their NHL clubs and look like guys who will have very long careers playing significant minutes. Outside of Hughes, I can’t confidently say that of anyone else in the first group even if they are good players.
We certainly saw in 2018 that NHL teams were chasing skill at the defense position, trying to acquire the “modern” NHL defenseman. But the data tells a less clear story about what a modern defenseman is.
It’s interesting when looking at the top defensemen in this year’s draft. David Reinbacher, Oliver Bonk and Dmitri Simashev for example have size, skating ability and two-way value. Axel Sandin Pellikka is more the offensive puck-mover; you question how well he’ll defend in the NHL. If you’re talking about Sandin Pellikka going high in the first round, it’s worth really asking how blown away by the talent you are, or if he’s closer to Smith/Lunkvist as a player.
Note: earlier in the article he said Hughes is a "legit star" so that's his take on Hughes from the draft. |
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Location: Canuckville, BC Joined: 01.09.2015
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Good insight from Pronman:
Note: earlier in the article he said Hughes is a "legit star" so that's his take on Hughes from the draft. - NewYorkNuck
That stuff all aside I don’t see any D worth 11oa with it being too heavy on F’s & really no D that stand out. Again I repeat myself where a trade down for Simashev if D is the want. If not then pick a C. Get more 2nds & pick D where they are better projected. |
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Tempe says no to Lefty's Coyotes! - Marwood
Shocking that a desert state full of retirees and latinos might not buy hockey. I’m just shocked. |
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LordHumungous
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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Stay safe too! - Shuswap Wap
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LordHumungous
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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LordHumungous
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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Flames wont let Pittsburg interview Treliving for the GM job. Talk about some hurt butts in Cowtown. - VANTEL
We are talking about a franchise where Johnny 'regular season' Hockey and the Turtlechuk wanted out from almost day 1. Says alot. |
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LordHumungous
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Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla! Joined: 08.15.2014
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That stuff all aside I don’t see any D worth 11oa with it being too heavy on F’s & really no D that stand out. Again I repeat myself where a trade down for Simashev if D is the want. If not then pick a C. Get more 2nds & pick D where they are better projected. - Nighthawk
The BPA mentality needs to go. Fill your needs and go off the board to get a RHD that we need. |
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NewYorkNuck
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 07.11.2015
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Arizona moving to....
- Houston?
- Kansas City?
- Salt lake City?
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
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Well, it looks like Houston is gonna get them a great up-and-coming NHL team!! |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
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Arizona moving to....
- Houston?
- Kansas City?
- Salt lake City? - NewYorkNuck
There’s speculation now that the Suns new owner may be interested in buying the team and building a new dual purpose arena downtown. Basketball & hockey. What a gong-show of a franchise. Great prospects with a scorched earth rebuild though. |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
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The BPA mentality needs to go. Fill your needs and go off the board to get a RHD that we need. - LordHumungous
Never draft for need at the top of the draft, later, sure. Sometimes it can workout but generally it disappoints. Empirical data doesn’t lie! |
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NewYorkNuck
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 07.11.2015
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There’s speculation now that the Suns new owner may be interested in buying the team and building a new dual purpose arena downtown. Basketball & hockey. What a gong-show of a franchise. Great prospects with a scorched earth rebuild though. - LeftCoaster
Fu ck that. They've had like 30 chances to keep/build/rebuild/buy/rebuy/vote on that franchise. Time is up. Move the team. It's an embarrassment for the league. What other professional sports league would allow that to happen for so long? |
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NewYorkNuck
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 07.11.2015
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Never draft for need at the top of the draft, later, sure. Sometimes it can workout but generally it disappoints. Empirical data doesn’t lie! - LeftCoaster
You mean the MSM "empirical" "data"? |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
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Fuck that. They've had like 30 chances to keep/build/rebuild/buy/rebuy/vote on that franchise. Time is up. Move the team. It's an embarrassment for the league. What other professional sports league would allow that to happen for so long? - NewYorkNuck
I agree, and have said as much. They’ve had 25 years to get their sh it together and they’re still fumbling the proverbial ball. Time to relocate them. The players are tired of it, from what I’ve heard from people within the organization. |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
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Dylan Guenther gets his league-leading 15th goal of the #WHLPlayoffs!🔥
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NewYorkNuck
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 07.11.2015
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I agree, and have said as much. They’ve had 25 years to get their shit together and they’re still fumbling the proverbial ball. Time to relocate them. The players are tired of it, from what I’ve heard from people within the organization. - LeftCoaster
Exactly. Even if this other owner wants to buy it and build a new arena... that's 4, 5 years away? All that time playing in that poop arena. I'm sure everyone is tired of it. It's a joke.
Plus that article in the Athletic the other day talking about how they might be trading Schmaltz (who I've mentioned about as a target for them if they trade JTM) just because he's owed more money than his cap hit. Like, nothing changes with them. It's been the same poop for years. |
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NewYorkNuck
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Location: New York, NY Joined: 07.11.2015
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Dylan Guenther gets his league-leading 15th goal of the #WHLPlayoffs!🔥
- LeftCoaster
Ya, it's the WHL. How many goals would OEL have if he was playing there right now? Probably like 25 |
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LeftCoaster
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Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
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Exactly. Even if this other owner wants to buy it and build a new arena... that's 4, 5 years away? All that time playing in that poop arena. I'm sure everyone is tired of it. It's a joke.
Plus that article in the Athletic the other day talking about how they might be trading Schmaltz (who I've mentioned about as a target for them if they trade JTM) just because he's owed more money than his cap hit. Like, nothing changes with them. It's been the same poop for years. - NewYorkNuck
Andy Strickland
“Options the league is exploring for the Coyotes includes this coming season. Chance the #Yotes have already played their final game in the desert.” #NHL |
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Location: Valley Of The Sun Joined: 07.03.2009
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Ya, it's the WHL. How many goals would OEL have if he was playing there right now? Probably like 25 - NewYorkNuck
Are you drinking or high? This is completely nonsensical. |
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Marwood
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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Marwood
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Location: Cumberland, BC Joined: 03.18.2010
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