Good to see the dysfunction has returned to Leaf land.


“Friedman on 32TP: "I heard Toronto's exit interviews were pretty tough, I heard the Toronto players were pretty blunt about what they thought was said and that's something still to work on...he thinks some of the players were really blunt about why it didn't work".”
- LeftCoaster

And that is why Dubas was fired?

27 picks in the last 3 years? wtf do you think that is re-tooling? They have been rebuilding for years.

Again wtf are you talking about 11 isn't 6th? 6th what? The Canucks don't own 6th. Where did 6th even come into play here? Who the (frank) mentioned 6th?

Do you understand that better players are found higher up in the draft and not later. It's much harder to find a top 6 talented player at 19th than 11th.
- manvanfan

6th came from you apparently thinking you get top6 means 11th

Hint: the easiest way to get top6 talent, is to trade into the top6, which is why that is what they are more likely to do that.

That's not allowed.

I'd probably put this guys rankings ahead of a lot of other public because he was an NHL scout with Nashville for 6 years and then director of Amateur scouting for Florida for like 11 years.

Granted if Delorme put out a rankings, I'd probably laugh.
- manvanfan

I agree. This organizations loyalty to previous players over actually drafting well the last 20 years befuddles me.

6th came from you apparently thinking you get top6 means 11th

Hint: the easiest way to get top6 talent, is to trade into the top6, which is why that is what they are more likely to do that.
- neem55

Not the 6th best player in the draft.

A top 6 talented forward. You know a player that is projected to play on the top 2 lines on an NHL team.

A middle 6 is a player that can play on either the 2nd or 3rd lines but wouldn't be a 1st line talent.

Not the 6th best player in the draft.

A top 6 talented forward. You know a player that is projected to play on the top 2 lines on an NHL team.

A middle 6 is a player that can play on either the 2nd or 3rd lines but wouldn't be a 1st line talent.



- manvanfan

No branvan3000, if a player like that slips we should pick them. We need all the skill we can get.

Hes looked alright, hopefully can come up to abby soon and see what we have. On the right track though!
- neem55

I wonder what kind of game he will need to play to make it to bigs? His lack of size is a factor. He’ll have to think the game at a high level and perhaps reinvent himself at the next level.

Good to see the dysfunction has returned to Leaf land.


“Friedman on 32TP: "I heard Toronto's exit interviews were pretty tough, I heard the Toronto players were pretty blunt about what they thought was said and that's something still to work on...he thinks some of the players were really blunt about why it didn't work".”
- LeftCoaster

Watch the AM ...comercial, I get it ....

Not the 6th best player in the draft.

A top 6 talented forward. You know a player that is projected to play on the top 2 lines on an NHL team.

A middle 6 is a player that can play on either the 2nd or 3rd lines but wouldn't be a 1st line talent.



- manvanfan

No branvan3000, if a player like that slips we should pick them. We need all the skill we can get.

Not the 6th best player in the draft.

A top 6 talented forward. You know a player that is projected to play on the top 2 lines on an NHL team.

A middle 6 is a player that can play on either the 2nd or 3rd lines but wouldn't be a 1st line talent.



- manvanfan

No branvan3000, if a player like that slips we should pick them. We need all the skill we can get.

Not the 6th best player in the draft.

A top 6 talented forward. You know a player that is projected to play on the top 2 lines on an NHL team.

A middle 6 is a player that can play on either the 2nd or 3rd lines but wouldn't be a 1st line talent.



- manvanfan

No branvan3000, if a player like that slips we should pick them. We need all the skill we can get.

No branvan3000, if a player like that slips we should pick them. We need all the skill we can get.
- neem55

A player like what? Did you even read the article on the scouts projections for players?

Really wouldn't be arguing if you actually knew what you were talking about right now.

I agree. This organizations loyalty to previous players over actually drafting well the last 20 years befuddles me.
- I-own_da-Northwest

I did look to see that Allvin did get rid of the longest tenured scout in the org this past summer. Tom Leardon? or something. Still doesn't change the fact that Delorme, Gradin, Chibisov have all been there about 20 years now and scouting has been an issue for a better chunk of that time.

A player like what? Did you even read the article on the scouts projections for players?

Really wouldn't be arguing if you actually knew what you were talking about right now.
- manvanfan

Ive read many many projections of draft picks, i find central scouting and bob to be the best/most reliable but to each their own!

Good to see the dysfunction has returned to Leaf land.


“Friedman on 32TP: "I heard Toronto's exit interviews were pretty tough, I heard the Toronto players were pretty blunt about what they thought was said and that's something still to work on...he thinks some of the players were really blunt about why it didn't work".”
- LeftCoaster

But Leafs do care about family


Matthews seems to be a hot topic, where will he land?

But Leafs do care about family


Matthews seems to be a hot topic, where will he land?
- VANTEL

He will re-sign. They would be stupid not to if he wants. What's more interesting is Marner or Willie moving and where to.

He will re-sign. They would be stupid not to if he wants. What's more interesting is Marner or Willie moving and where to.
- neem55

I would say probably he will return but maybe not. He can play anywhere in the states for a boatload of money. He might look at options.

I just seen a proposal on CF. My first thought was no way but if Petey is asking too much. He said Petey to CBJ for the 3OA and LA's first. As I said very unlikely but if EP is asking 11 mil I would consider IMO.

Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
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49m
Sources: Dave Nonis will be joining #Flames alongside incoming GM Craig Conroy in a senior management role. Ownership was very impressed by Nonis in interview process.

Belief is Jarome Iginla will also be in the fold in an advisory or consultant role to start.

And that is why Dubas was fired?
- manvanfan

He's supposed to be talking to Pittsburgh about their GM position.

Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
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49m
Sources: Dave Nonis will be joining #Flames alongside incoming GM Craig Conroy in a senior management role. Ownership was very impressed by Nonis in interview process.

Belief is Jarome Iginla will also be in the fold in an advisory or consultant role to start.




- manvanfan

All makes sense, Nonis brings a lot of AGM experience to a rookie GM

He's supposed to be talking to Pittsburgh about their GM position.
- VanHockeyGuy

No he isnt, he said in his interview after getting canned he would be taking a year off

I did look to see that Allvin did get rid of the longest tenured scout in the org this past summer. Tom Leardon? or something. Still doesn't change the fact that Delorme, Gradin, Chibisov have all been there about 20 years now and scouting has been an issue for a better chunk of that time.
- manvanfan

Yes, they need an overhaul. We’ve missed on most 1st and 2nd rd picks the last 20 years.

Jensen, Gaunce, Joulevi, Virtanen, Schroeder, Hodgson, white, Ellington, Sauve,
Rodin, mallet, Shinkaruk, Lind, Woo, Lekkerimaki.

I haven’t included Bourdon because obvious it was a tragedy


We’ve had only 28 out of 40 picks in the last 20 years and out of that we’ve missed
16 times, with 3-4 players being too soon to tell. Imagine only getting your job right 45% of the time and still having that job 2 decades later it gets much worse when you add in the other rounds.

No he isnt, he said in his interview after getting canned he would be taking a year off
- neem55

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/pi...with-kyle-dubas-1.1963659

Yes, they need an overhaul. We’ve missed on most 1st and 2nd rd picks the last 20 years.

Jensen, Gaunce, Joulevi, Virtanen, Schroeder, Hodgson, white, Ellington, Sauve,
Rodin, mallet, Shinkaruk, Lind, Woo, Lekkerimaki.

I haven’t included Bourdon because obvious it was a tragedy


We’ve had only 28 out of 40 picks in the last 20 years and out of that we’ve missed
16 times, with 3-4 players being too soon to tell. Imagine only getting your job right 45% of the time and still having that job 2 decades later it gets much worse when you add in the other rounds.
- I-own_da-Northwest

It's no secret VAN's drafting and development has been crap for decades.

Almost as bad as their ability to win trades.

https://www.tsn.ca/nhl/pi...with-kyle-dubas-1.1963659
- VanHockeyGuy

It's interesting on the heels of what he said id be surprised if he goes elsewhere

I would say probably he will return but maybe not. He can play anywhere in the states for a boatload of money. He might look at options.

I just seen a proposal on CF. My first thought was no way but if Petey is asking too much. He said Petey to CBJ for the 3OA and LA's first. As I said very unlikely but if EP is asking 11 mil I would consider IMO.
- VANTEL

No thanks.