Buff36
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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Exactly my point. Do I love UpL or Comrie? Heck no
But a lot of a goalies production is due to the team in front of them.
Look at the bruins for the last 10-15 years, hurricanes, Vegas, Tampa, panthers and a couple other teams that play with no name goalies and win. (Ullmark was average with the Sabres)
I think it’s good to have that really good team and then a goalie in playoffs. See the Panthers this year.
They had 120 point season last season and this year snuck into playoffs.
Bob and knight sucked for a majority of the 1st half of the season.
Then Bob found his game and the panthers are rolling
Panthers have a good goalie and a really darn good team in front of Bob - Sabretooth9
So how would them returning in anyway mean we had a good offseason? |
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Ratsreign
Florida Panthers |
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Location: Mo can stay awhile, FL Joined: 10.27.2017
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Soon - jochfr
Slacker procrastinator |
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If pitt wants karmanos? Best of luck, Jason. - TheSabresTaco
Completely agree.
Ventura and Karmanos need to stay at all costs |
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So how would them returning in anyway mean we had a good offseason? - sbroads24
I said earlier. Add a top 4 defensemen would be a big enough upgrade to see how much better our d core is overall
You clearly didn’t read what I said |
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washedup20
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Location: the little apple Joined: 08.19.2014
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Completely agree.
Ventura and Karmanos need to stay at all costs - Sabretooth9
If the organization is so fragile that these 2 are needed at any cost, the organization is still poorly run and they should be let go anyway. |
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washedup20
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Location: the little apple Joined: 08.19.2014
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So how would them returning in anyway mean we had a good offseason? - sbroads24
Vibe-o-meter would be off the charts |
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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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5 minutes ago....
"Guys get better with experience, happens at every position." - Lunaion
Rookies and 2nd year players should get better.
Like power, samuelsson and upl
Asplund smells , he got worse after he left.
Sorry, must hurt a bit |
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ImThatGuy
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: I AM MY OWN DAMN SOURCE!, NY Joined: 11.04.2010
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Completely agree.
Ventura and Karmanos need to stay at all costs - Sabretooth9
Insert snarky “top 5 gm shouldn’t need help” |
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sbroads24
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We are in 30th place. It's 2017 , NY Joined: 02.12.2012
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I said earlier. Add a top 4 defensemen would be a big enough upgrade to see how much better our d core is overall
You clearly didn’t read what I said - Sabretooth9
Ok, so maybe I am not understanding
Did you or did you not mean that if they added a legit top 4 defensemen, but kept the current goalies, you'd consider that a good offseason? |
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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He = Ventura. Would you block him? - Lunaion
If Pitt wants Sam? Yes I'd promote Sam to associate GM.
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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If the organization is so fragile that these 2 are needed at any cost, the organization is still poorly run and they should be let go anyway. - washedup20
correct.
there are many good hockey people out there. I think Ventura is more important than Karmanos. I like Karmanos but he's replaceable. Ventura, less so.
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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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Ok, so maybe I am not understanding
Did you or did you not mean that if they added a legit top 4 defensemen, but kept the current goalies, you'd consider that a good offseason? - sbroads24
I'd consider that a likely offseason. |
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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Canada just lost to Norway cause some (frank)ing bro from Fattey Beer League was in goal instead of Levi. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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If Pitt wants Sam? Yes I'd promote Sam to associate GM. - TheSabresTaco
no comment on if the sabres were above the cap floor w/o bishop to start the season?
it was a valid question and if we were below the cap floor w/o him, then that move had a part in a season where we fell 1 point shy
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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no comment on if the sabres were above the cap floor w/o bishop to start the season?
it was a valid question and if we were below the cap floor w/o him, then that move had a part in a season where we fell 1 point shy - homiedclown
my comment was addressed prior to your response. Bishop had nothing to do with the active roster and allowed them flexibility to make moves in-season.
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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no comment on if the sabres were above the cap floor w/o bishop to start the season?
it was a valid question and if we were below the cap floor w/o him, then that move had a part in a season where we fell 1 point shy - homiedclown
it's unequivocally irrelevant. The trade happened a month before free agency and gave them the flexibility to get a guy or not get a guy, or trade a guy in season for picks if they were bad again.
If I understand you correctly, you think he was some obstacle that needed to be cleared, like they chose him instead of an active body.
No. They could have had both and chose Bishop.
You need to ask the right question. Not why is Ben Bishop here. It's "Why didn't they have the foresight to believe they were better than they thought they'd be?"
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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It's fair to criticize the management for not boosting the defense over the summer. But let's keep in mind they could have signed Mrak Prysk for 20M with or without Bishop.
Yes Luna I know there's a player % cap. |
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homiedclown
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: We want 1, FL Joined: 02.24.2008
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It's fair to criticize the management for not boosting the defense over the summer. But let's keep in mind they could have signed Mrak Prysk for 20M with or without Bishop.
Yes Luna I know there's a player % cap. - TheSabresTaco
lame
if they grabbed an ok LD to play instead of bryson to get the the floor instead of bishop, the team makes the playoffs and last I checked the 8th seed is up 2-0 in the eastern finals
#nottop5nhlgm |
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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lame
if they grabbed an ok LD to play instead of bryson to get the the floor instead of bishop, the team makes the playoffs and last I checked the 8th seed is up 2-0 in the eastern finals
#nottop5nhlgm - homiedclown
that's fair. it's also reality. If Kevo wanted to swap those bottoms out, he'd have done it, with or without Bishop's cap hit. It's clear that wasn't his objective. That's the point to criticize him on.
btw, Bryson had quality metrics the season prior and Joker was gelling well with Power in a small sample. Bryson declined hard this year.
And for the love of brown liquor stop (everyone) comparing us to the Panthers.
Lastly, have a little respect for Broads and his Revolutionary GM blog. |
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Rookies and 2nd year players should get better.
Like power, samuelsson and upl
Asplund smells , he got worse after he left.
Sorry, must hurt a bit - Boss34
They don't always get better. Sometimes they never do, sometimes they regress.
Girgs regressed and never met expectations. Joker hasn't improved since he got here. Krebs development is way below expectations. Jost is 10th OA who got waived. Tage looked like a bust and took off at 24.
UPL isn't on a good path. Still extremely inconsistent and his second half was just plain bad.
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If Pitt wants Sam? Yes I'd promote Sam to associate GM. - TheSabresTaco
Wonder what the contract situation is with that group.
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Boss34
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: BUFFALO , NY Joined: 12.03.2015
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It's fair to criticize the management for not boosting the defense over the summer. But let's keep in mind they could have signed Mrak Prysk for 20M with or without Bishop.
Yes Luna I know there's a player % cap. - TheSabresTaco
Didnt kevo add boosh , clague and stillman over the past season? Power only had a few games under his belt.
Changed half the defense, mostly plugs, but upgrades. |
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It's fair to criticize the management for not boosting the defense over the summer. But let's keep in mind they could have signed Mrak Prysk for 20M with or without Bishop.
Yes Luna I know there's a player % cap. - TheSabresTaco
Yup, could only have given him 16.3m. Missed opportunity.
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TheSabresTaco
Buffalo Sabres |
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Location: For me. jack Eichel is bobby ryan….that's it. - Octavarium, NY Joined: 05.05.2011
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They don't always get better. Sometimes they never do, sometimes they regress.
Girgs regressed and never met expectations. Joker hasn't improved since he got here. Krebs development is way below expectations. Jost is 10th OA who got waived. Tage looked like a bust and took off at 24.
UPL isn't on a good path. Still extremely inconsistent and his second half was just plain bad. - Lunaion
From 10/1 to 1/31, UPL had a GSAx of 0.3. 20 GP
From 2/1 to 4/30. he had a GSAA of -11.04. 13 GP
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