He'd be one of the last guys I think they trade. I'd be somewhere between shocked and surprised.
- TheSabresTaco

I agree, just saying trade what would be a haul for him, when all it could have taken was are 2nd in the 1st place.

It’s impossible to have this reassurance beforehand but if I was guaranteed top 10 goaltending for the next 4-5 years like Hellebyuck has been most of his career, I’d give them whatever prospect they wanted.

Sabres can win without Savoie amounting to anything.

They can’t win with UPL/Comrie types playing lots of games
- sbroads24

That's similar to Hank's perspective too.

Even though he avoided answering it, he already said he would offer as much as Savoie and the 13th overall pick this season, if necessary.

Another yes, right?


- kingcong39

Crack. Do not smoke it.

Ullmark might win the Vezina this season...
- washedup20

playing for a historically awesome team. but your not wrong.

Outside of the previous sabers team that’s the norm for about every team though. I watched a lot of away broadcasts this year or ESPN+ (because I think the Sabres broadcast is trash outside of Dan Dunlevey doing play by play)

on several away broadcast they mention about team is going away together this year and/or how close knit of a group they are.

It was talked about here and in Buffalo how the Sabres found this new way of life when really that’s kind of a common thing around the NHL.
- ImThatGuy

It wasn't common here. The stories/rumors that have come out since the departure of the previous core is pretty telling.

Good job on management for exorcising that room.

I would love to have Helly but c'mon I highly doubt that happens, I hope i am wrong.

The others I listed are more reasonable targets IMO
- hehateme

It doesn't seem like a fit for their vision. I know people have a viewpoint of win at all costs and (frank) levi or whatever, but it's not how they're operating. If he had another year on his contract, I bet they do it.

Crack. Do not smoke it.
- Jet Jaguar BD

Best I can do is Krebs UPL and a second or Mitts UPL

https://www.capfriendly.c.../armchair-gm/team/4173806

Anyone hear anything on Okposo and a possible extension.
- Buff36

Yes. Adams also reached out to power and Dahlin to try and get those done asap.

So they can figure out the salary cap situation or get a better picture of it going forward

https://www.capfriendly.com/armchair-gm/team/4173806
- Buff36

Wont be trading JJ after watching him at this worlds.

You would, right?

>>> Deal No. 3 Connor Hellebuyck for Matthew Savoie and the 13th-Overall Pick
- kingcong39

No and no team will come close to that deal if he's traded.

No, Have you?
- DirtyDan

Think I answered that when I answered Taco about talking with him.

I would try to sign him to a 7x$8m deal.

But I would also accept the risk of him as a pure rental.

Mittelstadt, UPL, 2nd (that can become a 1st if they win a round) I highly doubt whatever they end up receiving beats that deal.
- Hank Balling

I doubt they are paying Helly 8 large and for 7 years... They arguably have the best goalie prospect under contract, why in the world would they then go sign a starter for 7x8 mil when in all reality all they need is an older (but still good) goalie for 2-3 years to pair with Levi?

I would be all in on Helly if we did not have Levi in the mix.

Think I answered that when I answered Taco about talking with him.
- Buff36

Oops, must have scrolled over

I bought a nice Chinese coffee table, like antique with wonderful art on it
- Jet Jaguar BD

he sells that kinda stuff too. his name is Rick, keep a lookout next time you're in there for the sign.

If the Sabres had a trade in place for say a high end top 4 RD with term and no NTC/NMC, are they making sure “he wants to be here” before they pull the trigger? Said player has 0 control.

If they aren’t making every player is thrilled about Buffalo it’s just an empty platitude
- sbroads24

Why would you want to trade for a disruptive player?

Havent you learned anything from the past decade?

Plenty of guys who want to play in buffalo.....

Oops, must have scrolled over
- DirtyDan

Yes, I have heard that it could be done soon. Hopefully it's wrong.

Yes, I have heard that it could be done soon. Hopefully it's wrong.
- Buff36

2x1?

No longer than 1 year right? ....... Right?

Would have to mean Girgs is gone, I doubt they bring back both.

It doesn't seem like a fit for their vision. I know people have a viewpoint of win at all costs and (frank) levi or whatever, but it's not how they're operating. If he had another year on his contract, I bet they do it.
- TheSabresTaco

If he had 2 years left on his contract, I would do whatever it would take to get him, have him start 50ish games and levi 30ish learning behind a great goaltender. for 2 years by then Levi steps right in.

only if.......................................

Why would you want to trade for a disruptive player?

Havent you learned anything from the past decade?

Plenty of guys who want to play in buffalo.....
- Boss34

Who said they’d be disruptive?

I doubt they are paying Helly 8 large and for 7 years... They arguably have the best goalie prospect under contract, why in the world would they then go sign a starter for 7x8 mil when in all reality all they need is an older (but still good) goalie for 2-3 years to pair with Levi?

I would be all in on Helly if we did not have Levi in the mix.
- hehateme

Levi looks very promising, but until he proves he can handle a full season load. He is nothing more than a super promising Prospect.

It’s been pointed out by several people that most of the very good goalies weren’t real light on to play or take the full starter load until several seasons into their career.

You need to have someone in here that can handle the number one duties and have Levi play 30 games this year 40 games the year after and then take starting capability if he continues to progress.

You can then also trade Helly if it comes to that.

Look at what just happened in Florida for example, Spencer Knight was the most promising prospect in years and now he’s out of the league because of substance-abuse issues you just never know

Who said they’d be disruptive?
- sbroads24

Not…worth…it

Why would you want to trade for a disruptive player?

Havent you learned anything from the past decade?

Plenty of guys who want to play in buffalo.....
- Boss34

why are we assuming conceptual player is disruptive?

2x1?

No longer than 1 year right? ....... Right?

Would have to mean Girgs is gone, I doubt they bring back both.
- DirtyDan

One year, don't know the dollars. That was a month ago.

Levi looks very promising, but until he proves he can handle a full season load. He is nothing more than a super promising Prospect.

It’s been pointed out by several people that most of the very good goalies weren’t real light on to play or take the full starter load until several seasons into their career.

You need to have someone in here that can handle the number one duties and have Levi play 30 games this year 40 games the year after and then take starting capability if he continues to progress.

You can then also trade Helly if it comes to that.

Look at what just happened in Florida for example, Spencer Knight was the most promising prospect in years and now he’s out of the league because of substance-abuse issues you just never know
- ImThatGuy

see my post a few up. I agree. I just don't think signing Helly for long term is going to happen.