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Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

May 31 @ 1:42 PM ET
If Jim would have just let the draft picks develop

Of course, so Canucks fans can complain about them being allowed to develop and not thrown to the wolves at first chance.

- manvanfan


Complaining is all Canuck fans have left… at least for some.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 31 @ 1:46 PM ET
Byron Bader

Andrew Cristall at 68. Wow.

The last F from the CHL to have an equivalency of at least 20 in their pre-DY and at least 40 in their DY taken outside of the 1st round was DeBrincat (39th in 2016). Before that it was Marc Savard (91st in 1995).

Over 60% of these turn into stars.

Referring to Pronman's draft rankings of Cristall at 68.


Not ripping on Corey and his process. He is free to have his rankings and projections. He makes a good living at it.

I just can't see how there are 67 options you would take ahead of Cristall. To me there's not 15 that would go ahead that type of potential.

Pronman's rankings have always been poop though, so he should rip him
NorthNuck
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Yellowknife, NWT
Joined: 05.30.2016

May 31 @ 1:52 PM ET
Trev to Leafs official.

Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
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12m
#Leafs make Brad Treliving hiring official

- manvanfan

Time to trade Marner and let Matthews walk, the Treliving special
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

May 31 @ 1:56 PM ET
He's the sensitive one?! That's cute, little pothead calling kettle black
- neem55


It’s just typical hypocritical behavior by him. In my year here he’s always defending Reuben no matter what he says and vice versa. They praise each others takes. It’s a real cute act they got there.
Quinn's Quest
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 08.08.2022

May 31 @ 2:04 PM ET
Time to trade Marner and let Matthews walk, the Treliving special
- NorthNuck


Better yet he trades Mathews to CBJ for 3OA +++ Then flips 3OA to Canucks for Demko, Myers and Bear. As you know he loves Canuck RHD and Tenders… lol.
Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

May 31 @ 2:07 PM ET
I'd rather we draft and stockpile top-end D, they fetch a lot at the TDL and before the draft. It's our greatest position of weakness and if we turn it into a strength we can trade the excess for the other positions we lack.
- DariusKnight

the Nashville model 👍🏻
LordHumungous
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Greetings from the Humungous. Ayatollah of rock and rolla!
Joined: 08.15.2014

May 31 @ 2:09 PM ET
He's the sensitive one?! That's cute, little pothead calling kettle black
- neem55

Shuswap Wap
Location: BC
Joined: 02.07.2018

May 31 @ 2:09 PM ET
He's the sensitive one?! That's cute, little pothead calling kettle black
- neem55

😂
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 31 @ 2:10 PM ET
Time to trade Marner and let Matthews walk, the Treliving special
- NorthNuck

It will be interesting. Unlike Turtlechuk, Matthews and Marner have said they would like to stay.
K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

May 31 @ 2:14 PM ET
Referring to Pronman's draft rankings of Cristall at 68.



Pronman's rankings have always been poop though, so he should rip him

- manvanfan

I’ve seen enough of Cristall to hope the Canucks grab him at 11
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 31 @ 2:15 PM ET
It’s just typical hypocritical behavior by him. In my year here he’s always defending Reuben no matter what he says and vice versa. They praise each others takes. It’s a real cute act they got there.
- Quinn's Quest

You've been here a bit longer than a year, Nuck4U.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

May 31 @ 2:17 PM ET

- LordHumungous

I'm looking for a sympathetic Mod to ban him, it's called the LordHumungous Model.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 31 @ 2:25 PM ET
https://www.hockeybuzz.co...post_id=22894846#22894846

With 1 round to go.

Current standings. As some have dropped out after rounds.
Bloated - 9
MVF, VHG - 8
Marwood, Golfing - 7
Lefty - 5
Vintage - 4

neem55
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.02.2012

May 31 @ 2:25 PM ET
You've been here a bit longer than a year, Nuck4U.
- Marwood

Ouch man, ive seen some heavy insults
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 31 @ 2:33 PM ET
I’ve seen enough of Cristall to hope the Canucks grab him at 11
- K-man25

Canucks after a D or C
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 31 @ 2:34 PM ET
Better yet he trades Mathews to CBJ for 3OA +++ Then flips 3OA to Canucks for Demko, Myers and Bear. As you know he loves Canuck RHD and Tenders… lol.
- Quinn's Quest


Why would any sane GM want to give up the 3OA for Myers and Bear?
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

May 31 @ 2:43 PM ET
So you want to trade this years first round pick for one next season? There really isn't a lot of top end defenders in this draft class (at least from what projects)
- manvanfan


ASP or Reinbacher would be a good start if they're still on the board, if not, then yeah, I'd be open to trading the 11OA for an extra 1st+ next year and try and grab better D. If wingers were at a premium (especially ours who are underachievers and expensive (see Garland, Boeser, etc) we'd be in good shape.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 31 @ 2:53 PM ET
ASP or Reinbacher would be a good start if they're still on the board, if not, then yeah, I'd be open to trading the 11OA for an extra 1st+ next year and try and grab better D. If wingers were at a premium (especially ours who are underachievers and expensive (see Garland, Boeser, etc) we'd be in good shape.
- DariusKnight

I'd say most teams go BPA in the first couple of rounds. It seems as if the misses happen in the form of not taking BPA but drafting BPA for need. Probably there is a line that needs to be drawn when the team has no centers, no defenders and wingers galore.

The wingers that are expensive are usually because they performed to earn that. That's not a bad thing unless you take it to the Canucks level

Currently the team is trying to develop their players better. Demotion of Hogz and Podz for a while.

Fickle place the Canucks are in, not a rebuild but not competitive. Winning draft lotto would have went a long ways to helping them out.

DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

May 31 @ 2:57 PM ET
I'd say most teams go BPA in the first couple of rounds. It seems as if the misses happen in the form of not taking BPA but drafting BPA for need. Probably there is a line that needs to be drawn when the team has no centers, no defenders and wingers galore.

The wingers that are expensive are usually because they performed to earn that. That's not a bad thing unless you take it to the Canucks level

Currently the team is trying to develop their players better. Demotion of Hogz and Podz for a while.

Fickle place the Canucks are in, not a rebuild but not competitive. Winning draft lotto would have went a long ways to helping them out.

- manvanfan


It all depends, to me demoting Podz and Hogs seems more like "We've given up and don't think they're going to be in our plans going forwards, so why not dump them on Abbotsford while we see if anyone might be willing to give us assets for them" than actual development. It's not as if they haven't had a lot of chances in the NHL.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 31 @ 3:08 PM ET
Vancouver Canucks
@Canucks
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8m
General Manager Patrik Allvin announced today that the #Canucks have agreed to terms with defenceman Jett Woo on a one-year, two-way contract.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 31 @ 3:13 PM ET
It all depends, to me demoting Podz and Hogs seems more like "We've given up and don't think they're going to be in our plans going forwards, so why not dump them on Abbotsford while we see if anyone might be willing to give us assets for them" than actual development. It's not as if they haven't had a lot of chances in the NHL.
- DariusKnight

It would be the Canuck way to give up on them far too early.

I'm not sure what you think a lot of chances are but 100-150 nhl games isn't a lot of chances to me. Barely even starting out. Another two seasons before I'd decide whether or not they are in the plans or not.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 31 @ 3:13 PM ET
Vancouver Canucks
@Canucks
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8m
General Manager Patrik Allvin announced today that the #Canucks have agreed to terms with defenceman Jett Woo on a one-year, two-way contract.

- VANTEL

WOOOOO!
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 31 @ 3:18 PM ET
WOOOOO!
- manvanfan


Not waiver exempt this year
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 31 @ 3:34 PM ET
Chris Johnston
@reporterchris
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1m
Ron Francis is now under contract as #SeaKraken GM through 2026-27 after signing a three-year extension.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

May 31 @ 3:37 PM ET
Not waiver exempt this year
- VANTEL


He'll be on the waiver wire shortly after camp.
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