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K-man25
Calgary Flames
Location: K Town
Joined: 09.02.2014

Jun 8 @ 12:57 PM ET
LeBrun on Boeser:

“There haven’t been any teams calling this offseason so far…the reality from what I’m hearing is that the #Canucks  are more than happy to keep him in the fold if nothing comes their way that makes sense.”

Via @TheAthleticNHL

- LeftCoaster

Teams need to get their own finances in order first. Any trade for Boeser will have cap coming back, I believe it’s the cap world.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 8 @ 1:04 PM ET
LeBrun on Boeser:

“There haven’t been any teams calling this offseason so far…the reality from what I’m hearing is that the #Canucks  are more than happy to keep him in the fold if nothing comes their way that makes sense.”

Via @TheAthleticNHL

- LeftCoaster


Lovely
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 8 @ 1:05 PM ET
Okay, twat-waffle. A woman is a social construct of gender which typically defines a biological female of our species. Typical manifestation of that social construct would be to put women as the weaker sex and ascribes feminine qualities to them which are generally binary opposites of masculine qualities.

As it is, the whole boy=blue/girl=pink thing is pretty unnecessary and outdated and fails to account for the estimated 1.7% of people who are born with some intersex qualities and the much greater percentage of people who identify as either sexually or gender queer.

So keep banging the drum on the Fred Flintstone poop if you don't care for the evolution of societal attitudes, but it's not 1950 anymore. You can pretend that the things you don't like are harmful to children, but denying the reality of people's humanity is the real harm.

- micah555

Society & any indoctrination or brainwashing is the root of most things.

The baby boomers in the 1940s were the first to be dressed in the sex-specific clothing that Americans are familiar with today. Boys and girls were dressed like miniature men and women instead of uniformly in children's dresses. Pink became the girls' color, blue the boys'.

In 19th century England, pink ribbons or decorations were often worn by young boys; boys were simply considered small men, and while men in England wore red uniforms, boys wore pink.

Marketing Has a Say
Marketing plays a large role in how a product is perceived by the public. The idea was if one created a “gender normal” or gender norm, it would entice parents to buy specific baby products. No one wants to be abnormal, right? That was the idea.
In 1918, an article from Earnshaw’s Infants’ Department put out that “the generally accepted rule is pink for the boys, and blue for the girls”. Say what? The reason for this was that blue was a more delicate color–deemed suitable for girls–and pink was a stronger color–more suitable for boys. However, In 1927 Time Magazine released a survey chart showing what colors different department stores across the country displayed for boys and girls, and the results were mixed. Going into the 1940’s, color preferences were decided by the choices of the manufacturers and retailers of baby clothing.

Plenty of ignorance amongst the populace of today being so easily conned & leads to all the macho bs propaganda today. Ppl can keep on being led by the nose & continue purveying their stupidity.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 8 @ 1:07 PM ET
Teams need to get their own finances in order first. Any trade for Boeser will have cap coming back, I believe it’s the cap world.
- K-man25

I don't particularly like Boeser but if he puts up 60 points, I can put up with him for 2 years.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 8 @ 1:09 PM ET
I don't particularly like Boeser but if he puts up 60 points, I can put up with him for 2 years.
- VANTEL

I like Boeser but yes he is paid to score & put up points. Failing that he is a cap burden. Until his skating gets better & he can contribute in other facets of the game he’s an easy target to single out.
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 8 @ 1:15 PM ET
Okay, twat-waffle. A woman is a social construct of gender which typically defines a biological female of our species. Typical manifestation of that social construct would be to put women as the weaker sex and ascribes feminine qualities to them which are generally binary opposites of masculine qualities.

As it is, the whole boy=blue/girl=pink thing is pretty unnecessary and outdated and fails to account for the estimated 1.7% of people who are born with some intersex qualities and the much greater percentage of people who identify as either sexually or gender queer.

So keep banging the drum on the Fred Flintstone poop if you don't care for the evolution of societal attitudes, but it's not 1950 anymore. You can pretend that the things you don't like are harmful to children, but denying the reality of people's humanity is the real harm.

- micah555


Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 8 @ 1:30 PM ET
Interesting topic on Canuck buyout

https://canucksarmy.com/n...t-proof-vancouver-canucks

Note Garland
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 8 @ 1:32 PM ET
I like Boeser but yes he is paid to score & put up points. Failing that he is a cap burden. Until his skating gets better & he can contribute in other facets of the game he’s an easy target to single out.
- Nighthawk


If he repeats last year I can live with it. If he falls further down the hole, then it is short term. If he improves then, he is an asset. Not a huge problem IMO.

My trade would be to Winnipeg Dillon for Boeser to add that toughness on the D. I know Dilon is not that great but is serviceable like Boeser.

My biggest want is OEL. That is 8 mil of cap this year and 5 next year that is the obvious answer to get you cap space. Combine next years savings of 5 mil with the cap increase seeing escrow will finally be paid back you are looking at 10 mil savings in cap room. I don't care about the final four years it is a modern day version of Rocky DiPietro. No Islander fans are complaining about his 1 mil cap hit for 12 years.

I liked what I seen from Hirose and if you can bring him in on a two year entry then OEL was not that much ahead IMO.


CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 8 @ 1:33 PM ET
Again, you're ignorance as a point of pride is beyond idiotic, but I'll humor you. Drag queens don't expose themselves to kids. They read books affirming that there are legitimate lifestyle choices outside heteronormative standards. In turn, if children find themselves having those feelings, it's okay for them to be themselves. It's not complicated and it's not about repressed, closeted rightwing perversions. It's about providing the understanding that not everybody fits into the same identity and that's okay. It's not drag queens shooting up gay clubs or black churches or Walmart or casinos in Vegas, nor molesting children.
- micah555

Neat. This is a hockey blog kindly (frank) off
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 8 @ 1:36 PM ET
LeBrun on Boeser:

“There haven’t been any teams calling this offseason so far…the reality from what I’m hearing is that the #Canucks  are more than happy to keep him in the fold if nothing comes their way that makes sense.”

Via @TheAthleticNHL

- LeftCoaster

Thanks for the update chubs
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 8 @ 1:37 PM ET
No surprises there. Who wants/needs an overpayed sloth.
- Marwood

I can’t believe how many fanboys insisted he had trade value all season. Idiots!
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 8 @ 1:44 PM ET
If he repeats last year I can live with it. If he falls further down the hole, then it is short term. If he improves then, he is an asset. Not a huge problem IMO.

My trade would be to Winnipeg Dillon for Boeser to add that toughness on the D. I know Dilon is not that great but is serviceable like Boeser.

My biggest want is OEL. That is 8 mil of cap this year and 5 next year that is the obvious answer to get you cap space. Combine next years savings of 5 mil with the cap increase seeing escrow will finally be paid back you are looking at 10 mil savings in cap room. I don't care about the final four years it is a modern day version of Rocky DiPietro. No Islander fans are complaining about his 1 mil cap hit for 12 years.

I liked what I seen from Hirose and if you can bring him in on a two year entry then OEL was not that much ahead IMO.

- VANTEL

On Boeser I can wait for him to rebound & get over setbacks on & off the ice & get more than Dillon if he does so. It’s an awkward stage in his career at his age but the potential is still there imo.

On OEL it only happens if the Canucks are willing to bite the bullet & cheap prospects can force the issue. The timing just isn’t right yet. I envision this season as more of status quo til Allvin can find a significant trade. Patience the often used word is more often best especially since we are not ready to contend. It’s too bad but improving will have to come from within. A healthy roster is mandatory & a training camp & full season under RT & company is what we are in store for.

Hirose slotted in well.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 8 @ 1:48 PM ET
On OEL this season will be a defining season as a Canuck one way or the other. Either his knee & mobility are greatly improved or a buyout looms very large in 2024. Just my take on him. This season we should improve considering how bad everything went last season it can only do that. The PK alone at 32nd & 31st the season before was an anchor.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 8 @ 1:48 PM ET
On Boeser I can wait for him to rebound & get over setbacks on & off the ice & get more than Dillon if he does so. It’s awkward stage in his career at his age but the potential is still there imo.

On OEL it only happens if the Canucks are willing to bite the bullet & cheap prospects can force the issue. The timing just isn’t right yet. I envision this season as more of status quo til Allvin can find a significant trade. Patience the often used word is more often best especially since we are not ready to contend. It’s too bad but improving will have to come from within. A healthy roster is mandatory & a training camp & full season under RT & company is what we are in store for.

Hirose slotted in well.

- Nighthawk


I will agree with BB but waiting on OEL I don't.

The time is now not in one or two years. You take that 7 to 10 mil savings from OEL and you fix the D now, not tomorrow or in the future.

You have a decent crew of forwards, and you need to fix the D. You do whatever it takes to get rid of OEL.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 8 @ 1:50 PM ET
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 8 @ 1:53 PM ET

- VanHockeyGuy


Was that Tim Curry? I always thought he was a brilliant actor for some reason and I don't know why?
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 8 @ 1:54 PM ET
I will agree with BB but waiting on OEL I don't.

The time is now not in one or two years. You take that 7 to 10 mil savings from OEL and you fix the D now, not tomorrow or in the future.

You have a decent crew of forwards, and you need to fix the D. You do whatever it takes to get rid of OEL.

- VANTEL

The UFA D market isn’t that good for what our needs are. The price of a UFA & what they offer isn’t timely. We need to hope & rely on better team D from this roster for the time being. Adding to that a healthy Miky & kids making strides could go a long ways to better & more consistent hockey. Demko back on his game will be most important.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 8 @ 1:56 PM ET
Was that Tim Curry? I always thought he was a brilliant actor for some reason and I don't know why?
- VANTEL

Maybe you’re open minded & not jaded by prejudices society places on you. Chill in your skin so to speak lol
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 8 @ 2:04 PM ET
Thanks for the update chubs
- CanuckDon

"I don't think Boeser is very high on the list of players the #Canucks  want to move out right now.."

@DhaliwalSports on Brock Boeser's future with the #Canucks  from our opening segment.

linktr.ee/DonnieandDhali
Marwood
Location: Cumberland, BC
Joined: 03.18.2010

Jun 8 @ 2:10 PM ET
"I don't think Boeser is very high on the list of players the #Canucks  want to move out right now.."

@DhaliwalSports on Brock Boeser's future with the #Canucks  from our opening segment.

linktr.ee/DonnieandDhali

- LeftCoaster

They say, after a year of trying to move him. I swear Jim Benning is still running this team.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 8 @ 2:13 PM ET
D TOI

Hughes 25+ Hronek 22+
OEL 12 & PK Bear 20
Hirose up to 15 Myers 12 & PK

Something like that with Hirose probably rotating in & out.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 8 @ 2:18 PM ET
They say, after a year of trying to move him. I swear Jim Benning is still running this team.
- Marwood

I say it was for cap reasons & testing the market. The flat cap didn’t offer up trades worth moving him. That was last year & onto this one. It’s fluid & we can fully expect more behind the scenes phoning around on nearly any changes. With all teams pretty assured the cap will go up very significantly in 2024 the market will loosen up. Some teams may pull the trigger sooner leading up to 2024 more so come the TDL.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 8 @ 2:25 PM ET
Mgmt stated 2yrs & had the 2024 cap increase in mind saying that as well as the time to remake what is needed.

With this offseason & draft & the TDL & next offseason that is plenty of windows to look forward to. Navigating through all of those opportunities combined will be fun times for good or bad. I’m bullish.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 8 @ 2:29 PM ET
Resigning Petey will cost no doubt. Hronek also. All of the RFA’s will need to be fair contracts &/or team friendly to prove Allvin can control the salary/cap structure. Myers will be gone. OEL remains to figure out. Moving a winger out seems obvious. 2024 UFA D class has some bite…Pesce for one.
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 8 @ 2:32 PM ET
Next season will be important in another way being enticing future UFA’s wanting to come to team on the rise. Obviously meaning making the playoffs is a must. Doable
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