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Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 8 @ 4:37 PM ET
Yes lots will play 200 games but the key word was shine. If Gaunce plays a full season this year he will hit 200 games but I would not think of a star lever player if he hits 200.

Wahlstrom has 163 games and 32 goals 69 pts. Again a serviceable player but does not shine

- VANTEL

Reclamation to the right team could help him.

Pittsburgh
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 8 @ 4:42 PM ET
After 126 games Wahlstrom had 25 goals .

After 118 games Podkolzin had 18 goals

Wahlstrom was drafted for his scoring, Podz was taken as an all around player. The numbers are not that far apart. Assists are a different story but I am not sure if Wahlstrom was playing with same type of players? I sort of remember Podz playing with Hogs and I can't remember TBH. Anyways seems like normal progression for the 21 year old.
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 8 @ 4:45 PM ET
After 126 games Wahlstrom had 25 goals .

After 118 games Podkolzin had 18 goals

Wahlstrom was drafted for his scoring, Podz was taken as an all around player. The numbers are not that far apart. Assists are a different story but I am not sure if Wahlstrom was playing with same type of players? I sort of remember Podz playing with Hogs and I can't remember TBH. Anyways seems like normal progression for the 21 year old.

- VANTEL


I love these trash debates.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 8 @ 4:46 PM ET
His offence has gotten him into those talks. He could be a real gem to the right team. I like him if we add more big defensive D. Then again he’s not NHL ready so there is time to address that. D Petey would be a nice start if he keeps projecting well along with 1 other vet.
- Nighthawk


Like Bahl?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 8 @ 4:48 PM ET
I love these trash debates.
- VanHockeyGuy


Not much of a debate. Canuck fans calling a 21 year old a bust.


I liked last week when Silovs voted MVP at the worlds and it took 30 seconds for fans to put him on the trade block. 30 minutes later complaing we don't have good prospects.

CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 8 @ 4:51 PM ET
After 126 games Wahlstrom had 25 goals .

After 118 games Podkolzin had 18 goals

Wahlstrom was drafted for his scoring, Podz was taken as an all around player. The numbers are not that far apart. Assists are a different story but I am not sure if Wahlstrom was playing with same type of players? I sort of remember Podz playing with Hogs and I can't remember TBH. Anyways seems like normal progression for the 21 year old.

- VANTEL

Dude, how many goals did he score last year? Why not Compare him to Virtanen while you are at it
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 8 @ 4:52 PM ET
I love these trash debates.
- VanHockeyGuy

The lengths fans go to defend the teams garbage young players is hilarious
Bettmanhatesus
Joined: 08.10.2016

Jun 8 @ 4:54 PM ET
Not much of a debate. Canuck fans calling a 21 year old a bust.


I liked last week when Silovs voted MVP at the worlds and it took 30 seconds for fans to put him on the trade block. 30 minutes later complaing we don't have good prospects.


- VANTEL

Indoctrination 😜
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 8 @ 4:55 PM ET
Dude, how many goals did he score last year? Why not Compare him to Virtanen while you are at it
- CanuckDon


Are you day drinking again?

The kid is 21 years old. Have you ever heard of any player in the history of the NHL having a sophomore slump? You are telling me that no player hasn't been as good in his second year and they all project upwards.

I read about two pages back no need to rush players and here we are calling a 21 year old a bust.

manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 8 @ 4:58 PM ET
His offence has gotten him into those talks. He could be a real gem to the right team. I like him if we add more big defensive D. Then again he’s not NHL ready so there is time to address that. D Petey would be a nice start if he keeps projecting well along with 1 other vet.
- Nighthawk

It's an Adam Fox type of offence though. You could ASP and D-Petey as a future 2nd pair. You have to hope that Hughes and Hronek turn themselves into Makar and Toews type of pair then.

I have wondered whether you could Simashev and Hronek into a Pelech-Pulock type pairing.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 8 @ 4:58 PM ET
Are you day drinking again?

The kid is 21 years old. Have you ever heard of any player in the history of the NHL having a sophomore slump? You are telling me that no player hasn't been as good in his second year and they all project upwards.

I read about two pages back no need to rush players and here we are calling a 21 year old a bust.


- VANTEL

He isn’t a bust. He is exactly the player I predicted in his draft year. Stupid, slow and weak. Keep going in circles trying to defend him though as it’s entertaining. He may yet turn out to be a serviceable 4th liner if he grows some balls but what a waste of a 10th overall pick
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 8 @ 4:59 PM ET
The lengths fans go to defend the teams garbage young players is hilarious
- CanuckDon


While the Sedin's are teaching them to play soft hockey.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 8 @ 5:01 PM ET
While the Sedin's are teaching them to play soft hockey.
- VanHockeyGuy

A yes, the turn the other cheek academy they are running all summer in ABby. Fantastic
Nighthawk
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Canuckville, BC
Joined: 01.09.2015

Jun 8 @ 5:02 PM ET
Like Bahl?

- VANTEL

Not for a 1st. I single out a top 4 LHD. Maybe D Petey becomes that.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 8 @ 5:03 PM ET
He isn’t a bust. He is exactly the player I predicted in his draft year. Stupid, slow and weak. Keep going in circles trying to defend him though as it’s entertaining. He may yet turn out to be a serviceable 4th liner if he grows some balls but what a waste of a 10th overall pick
- CanuckDon

What are the chances Filip Zadina will go on waivers this year?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 8 @ 5:04 PM ET
Not for a 1st. I single out a top 4 LHD. Maybe D Petey becomes that.
- Nighthawk


He is probably 2 to 3 years away before he becomes a Canuck bust so you need to still find stop gaps for the next two years. IMO
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 8 @ 5:07 PM ET
A yes, the turn the other cheek academy they are running all summer in ABby. Fantastic
- CanuckDon


"Let him punch you in the face, maybe the ref will give him a penalty"
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 8 @ 5:08 PM ET
He isn’t a bust. He is exactly the player I predicted in his draft year. Stupid, slow and weak. Keep going in circles trying to defend him though as it’s entertaining. He may yet turn out to be a serviceable 4th liner if he grows some balls but what a waste of a 10th overall pick
- CanuckDon


JV?
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 8 @ 5:09 PM ET
What are the chances Filip Zadina will go on waivers this year?
- manvanfan

No idea, I don’t watch DET
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

Jun 8 @ 5:11 PM ET
"Let him punch you in the face, maybe the ref will give him a penalty"

- VanHockeyGuy

I liked his post game quote after he absolutely ran over a guy in the defensive zone one game. "The Sedin's told me to keep moving my feet"

VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 8 @ 5:15 PM ET
Canucks were tied for 4 th including preseason for most fights in the NHL .
VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 8 @ 5:22 PM ET
I liked his post game quote after he absolutely ran over a guy in the defensive zone one game. "The Sedin's told me to keep moving my feet"
- manvanfan

VanHockeyGuy
Location: “Who are we to think we’re anybody?” - Tocchet. Penticton, BC
Joined: 04.26.2012

Jun 8 @ 5:23 PM ET
Canucks were tied for 4 th including preseason for most fights in the NHL .
- VANTEL


They'd get owned by a heavy team.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 8 @ 5:27 PM ET
They'd get owned by a heavy team.
- VanHockeyGuy


Maybe so but they certainly did not turn the other cheek. I thought Burroughs and Schenn did a great job at adding toughness. I am curious to see if they bring back Juulsen. He had some big hits.

Bo was definitely turn the other cheek guy but he is gone, and I do like Dakota who definitely gets in the mix.

Miller had some good scuffles and even Myers stood up even if he lost.
CanuckDon
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Las Vegas
Joined: 08.05.2014

Jun 8 @ 5:30 PM ET
Canucks were tied for 4 th including preseason for most fights in the NHL .
- VANTEL

Yes that’s surprising. There are good and bad fights though. The Canucks didn’t fight to stand up for each other
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